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Catalytic Conversations

by Wendy Dickinson Ascend

We explore the volatility business owners face every day. During this time of economic crisis brought on by COVID-19, everyone is looking for answers. We hope to give you ideas for your recovery plan. Catalytic Conversation offers you, the listener, the opportunity to gain insight from the experiences of others. Each guest shares with you key pivot points, “failures”, and how each navigated the many transitions of ownership.

Copyright: Wendy Dickinson Ascend

Episodes

Consciously Profitable: Psychological Safety is a MUST

37m · Published 07 Apr 10:00

Recently I was a guest on Lauren LeMunyan's Spitfire Podcast.  Lauren and I are both coaches who work with executives to become consciously profitable.  The question is, how?

Leaders who are executives and business owners have to keep up with legislation, maintain profitability to retain value within the company, and rely on people to make those things happen.  As if that isn't tricky enough, those leaders have to lead people who, in 2021, are dealing with the pandemic - working remotely and isolated, while dealing with the social reckonings of the lack of equity, inclusion and diversity.

No one wants to be part of the problem.  Everyone wants to offer a solution.  What is a leader today to do?

In this interview we talk about legislation that is in the Senate for committee review that will impact M&A activity for startups.  We also tie it to the questions that Victoria M. Grady poses in a recent article for leaders who want to be value added to their teams in transition.  Finally, we discuss our upcoming webinar, "How To Create A Psychologically Safe Team" on Monday, April 12th, 2021.  In this webinar we will discuss:

  • What’s Working and What's Not in DEI Strategies
  • The 4 Stages of Psychological Safety and What You Really Need to Pay Attention To
  • The Next Steps to Building Your Inclusive Leadership Strategy

    Registration is free and available at consciouslyprofitable.com
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Goldilocks & The 3 Buyers: Interview with Dan Scherotter, Filament Business Advisors

59m · Published 02 Apr 18:55

Picture this - you’ve worked for years to build your business.  You hope to retire in the next five or six years.  You will use the money from that sale to buy the family a relaxing cruise, invest some for retirement and finally, do what you want to do with your time.

Sounds lovely, doesn’t it?  Unfortunately, for many who hold that dream dear, it doesn’t work out that way.  It happens for a lot of reasons.  Sometimes, the market conditions aren’t right.  At other times, owners get in their own way.

Today you have the chance to get the insider view of the transaction at the point of choosing the best fit buyer.  Dan Scherotter, a broker and strategy consultant with Filament Business Advisors, has a background in the restaurant industry.

Dan is a former chef and restaurant owner.  Dan has a finger on the pulse of the restaurant industry.  As a consultant and broker for Filament, Dan is going to discuss with me the unique aspects of selling a restaurant, asymmetrical buyers and how the past year has “laid the industry bare” structurally.

First, you need to sit down and define your priorities.  What do I mean?

  1. Do you know what your financial outlook is?
  2. Can you afford to take an earn out or reinvest part of the proceeds of a sale?
  3. What are the tax implications of the sale for you personally?

Many owners don’t know what they actually need to realize from the sale of their business.  Sounds crazy, doesn’t it?  But, it’s true.  I recently heard of an owner who thought (no data, just thought it) that he/she needed to walk away with $3M to be comfortable in retirement.  As it turns out, $2M was the magic number and that business sold and the owner was able to take an earn out for a larger purchase price based on forecasted earnings.

Think about your other priorities:

  • You want the company to stay in your town.
  • You want the new owner to keep all of the employees for at least a year.
  • You want to continue acting as part of the business development team.
  • You want a seat on the Board.

These requests are reasonable if they are presented in a professional manner and the owner has created a strong position as a valuable company.  The likelihood of those priorities being accepted depend on the value of the company, and the timing of the ask.  This is another incident where the right advisor is critical.

Let us know what you think: Wendy Dickinson, Ascend Coaching Solutions, 804-372-7575, [email protected]; Dan Scherotter, Filament Business Advisors, 804-728-1553 [email protected]

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The Wolf On Main Street: Interview with Michael Mitchell

59m · Published 30 Mar 21:04

Today we look at the process of selling your business.  You may hear of this process referred to as The Deal or the Transaction.  Your deal, or transaction, is the culmination of your years of hard work, blood, sweat and tears.  The amount of money you walk away with is dependent on a number of variables.  I hope that your biggest takeaway for my shows this month is that preparation is your key to successfully selling your business.

Selling your business is a process.  Today, I want my guest to give you a peek at what happens behind the curtain of the deal.  I want you to be ready for the business colonoscopy.  I want you to be so prepared, so ready, that you don’t feel a thing!

We’re going to talk about the things owners do that get in their own way, that they do wrong, or how they subconsciously sabotage the entire deal!  This happens all too often.

KEY ISSUES: Problems You May Encounter:

In my experience, these are the obstacles that owners don’t prepare for, lead through, or navigate successfully, during the transaction.

1.   Owners don’t really know what their priorities are before they begin the transaction process.  It is too late to think about the well-being of your employees once the purchase agreement is signed.

2.   Owners don’t think about who their ideal buyer is or what their attributes should be.

3.   Owners don’t really know how much their business is worth.  Michael recommended the Goldilocks method - ideal price, acceptable price, minimally acceptable pricing.  It is very important to get the pricing right, to attract the interest that you want.

4.   Owners have built the entire business around the owner.

What You Need To Know - THE WHAT:

Folks, you need to know what other companies in your industry and in your geographic area are selling for – I encourage you to do some market research.

If you belong to an association, ask for the names of other owners who have successfully sold their company. Get in touch with them and find out what their experience was like and what they would do differently if they could have a redo.  I also recommend that you listen as closely to what isn’t said as to what is said in those conversations.

Next, make sure you build relationships with advisors who have had experience as part of a deal team.  That experience will be a huge source of strength during the transaction process.

Almost every deal has moments where the door opens to renegotiate the purchase price, or an accounting practice is questioned, etc.  you want your advisors to be calm, professional, and to add value to your position, not detract from the value of your company.

Here are the steps that Michael outlined for your transaction:

  1. Get your business appraised.
  2. Talk to your accountant.
  3. Determine the kind of sale you will execute.
  4. The book of information is written.
  5. Advertising.
  6. Attracting and educating the buyers about your company.  NOTE: This is the time to get those prospective buyers to submit their personal finance documents and to sign an NDA.
  7. Letters of Intent are submitted and the top prospects are chosen.
  8. Due diligence begins.
  9. Purchase and sale agreements with terms and conditions are signed.  Transaction closes.

Michael Mitchell, Business Research Group, [email protected], or 1-804-381-6667.  Visit Michael’s website here.


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Prepping your Business To Sell: Interview with Mike Metzger, Murphy Business Sales

59m · Published 30 Mar 20:45

A lot of you plan to sell your business one day.  However, the odds of successfully selling your business are against you.

Did you know that there are ways to stack the odds of selling successfully in your favor?  Today Mike Metzger of Murphy Business Sales and I discuss the steps that you can take to prepare your business to go on the market.

We look at the things that you can do to build value in your business.  We discuss the most common mistakes that business owners make when putting their business on the market.  Mike and I want you to know what you don’t know.  What you don’t know can definitely hurt your business.  Finally, Mike and I share our recommendations for steps that you can take to prepare your business to sell, and then integrate successfully once it’s sold.

I think you’re going to want to take notes!

SHOW OBJECTIVES: THE WHY

  • 4 out of 5 businesses that go up for sale, don’t successfully sell.
  • Of the businesses that close the deal, 80% fail to integrate successfully.
  • 73% of business owners are unhappy with the results of the sale of their businesses 1 year out from the close.
  • Over 60% of business owners are planning to use the proceeds from the sale of their business to fund their retirements.

KEY ISSUES: Problems You May Encounter:

  1. Owners don’t really know how much their business is worth.
  2. Owners have built the entire business around the owner.
  3. Owners have failed to build value within their business - value to a prospective buyer, that is.
  4. Owners fail to run the business successfully once the transaction occurs.
  5. Owners don’t get the timing right.
  6. Owners don’t have the right advisors.
  7. Owners don’t have a communication plan for their team and word leaks.

What You Need To Do - THE HOW

  1. Get a valuation by an independent source.
  2. Consult your financial planner to determine the amount you need to live comfortably in retirement.  Could you manage an earn out, or reinvest as minority owner?  If so, for how much?
  3. Develop relationships with a broker, attorney and accountant who have this kind of expertise.
  4. Take a 2 week vacation and don’t contact the shop.  Use this as a stress test. Anything that “broke” while you were gone was a weak point that needs shoring up.
  5. Find out what the steps are and what the process looks like for your business.
  6. Conduct an inventory, a cash flow analysis, account receivables over 90 days are considered a lost cause.  Collect on those ahead of time.
  7. Consider the “curb appeal”.  Clean and spruce up ahead of time.
  8. Prepare your team, and your customers, for transition.  It will cost you if your key performers/customers up and leave once the deal is closed.

Resources:

  1. Mike Metzger, Murphy Business Sales, [email protected], or 1-804-617-6328.  Connect with Mike on LinkedIn here.
  2. Visit my website, to get your free downloads here

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Profitability: Savings on Fixed Costs with Mick Wienholt

59m · Published 15 Mar 09:00

COVID19, racial reckoning, economic uncertainty, the upcoming election….

Each is a complex, impactful occurrence.  Together - the challenges keep every business owner ready to take up the fight, flight or freeze reaction in our reptilian brains.

McKinsey recently reported that some industries will take up to five years to recover.  Others were able to pivot and navigate the new government recommendations with some success.  In the messy middle are those businesses that are working through the complexity one step at a time.  The small businesses have sustained most of the economic punches of this crisis.

Each owner’s experience is different.  So, take what we talk about today with the knowledge that there is no silver bullet, or one size fits all or a magic pill.

Key Issues - ​Owner Perspective:

  1. Impactful steps to improve the balance sheet, prune away the dead costs, and overall profitability.  This is beneficial to both selling and reinventing.
  2. Improve the company's retained earnings and position those earnings for potential ability to self finance.
  3. Prioritize and then execute fixed cost operations that can be achieved with a minimal amount of disruption, and maximum savings.
  4. Visit my website at www.ascendcoachingsolutions.com and DL my free PDF on  Four Steps to Pandemic Survival.
  5. Visit Mick Wienholt of Schooley Mitchell, at www.schooleymitchell.com/mwienholt, or email Mick at [email protected].

What You Need to Do

  1. The Predictive Index reported recently that 39% of CEO’s have placed strategy development as their #1 priority.  The 2nd?  Talent Strategy.  And, the 2 are intertwined.
  2. Consider a change to the method of Depreciation - is there short term gain, or not?  (Selling the Business - NO) Does this option offer long-term gain?  (Reinventing the Business - Maybe).
  3. Could a change in the method of Amortization offer a reduction in fixed costs, and an increase in profit? (1) Full amortization - loan to zero at the last payment date, (2) Partial amortization - paying less over time with a closing payment of the final date, (3) Interest only amortization  - at the end of term principal is due,(4) Negative amortization - less than interest only with a large payoff.
  4. Look at your company’s Insurance policies: what would a short-term shop with the lowest cost provider and reduce benefits to minimal levels offer for Selling the Business, and for Reinventing the Business.
  5. Collect data on compensation throughout the company.  Look at Salaries: how would choosing to top grade all positions.  Segregate and identify candidates in the bottom 10%.  Designate those positions for separation or part-time and devise a plan to execute on that decision. This would be a benefit for those of you who want to sell the business. If you plan to reinvent the business, it may also be a benefit - weigh the implications.
  6. For your equipment rentals & leases: if you have multiple leases from different manufactures (1) consolidate leases with one financing agency.  This would be a benefit for both selling and reinventing the company.
  7. Consider reducing all back end expenses by 10% - run a cost/benefit analysis, then decide.

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Franchising: An Expert's View with Gus Iurillo

59m · Published 12 Mar 10:00

Any business owner will tell you that owning your own business is a lot of work.  If you listen to stories of the how and why of different businesses, it will amaze you to hear the twists and turns that a lot of people have gone through to get to that place.

Business owners are as varied as the different types of businesses.  They have different reasons for getting into business - some are moving away from a career they didn’t like, or are moving toward the start of a great idea.  They have different experiences with work, consuming products and financial resources. They also have different levels of tolerance for risk.

But, how can you mitigate your exposure to risk?  Many believe that franchises are the way to go.

Today we look at franchises with one the most successful franchise experts in the country, Gus Iurillo of The Entrepreneur's Source.  Gus will give us tips for choosing a franchise, and what to watch out for.

Failure is possible.  Franchisees do fail.  You have the opportunity to determine what those possible failure patterns are and take steps to guard against them.  Here are just a few:

  • Inept franchisees.
  • Franchisee reluctance to follow the formula.
  • Misalignment between the franchisee and franchisor.
  • Lack of funds.
  • Poor people skills.

Gus has developed a process for his clients to follow.  He guides them through the decision making process.  Gus and his clients look for fit, adequate resources, support offered from corporate, etc.

What You Need To Do - THE HOW

  1. Do your research.
  2. Know your numbers.  Determine the amount you are comfortable with risking.
  3. Look at the market, industry, and franchise ups and downs.
  4. Learn the lingo.
  5. Research the different franchises.  Determine which are the recession proof.
  6. Begin the application process.
  7. Set up your discovery day meeting.  Bring your questions along with your growth mindset.
  8. Apply for financing.
  9. Hire a reputable business attorney (I recommend Scott Simmons.) to review the contracts.
  10. Get the training and support you need to succeed.

At this point, I have to recommend Gus Iurillo of The Entrepreneur’s Source.  Connect with Gus on LinkedIn here.  You deserve to succeed.  Set yourself up for success.

Resources:

  1. “Why Opening a Franchise Business Is Better Than Starting Your Own”, Harsh Pancholia, March 26, 2017, entrepreneur.com.
  2. “Why Franchises Fail”, Richard Gibson, April 30, 2007, WSJ.
  3. “The Pros and Cons Of Buying A Franchise”, Jared Hecht, February 27, 2019, Forbes.com.
  4. “Guide To Buying A Franchise” by Marisa Sanfilippo, August 27, 2020, businessnewsdaily.com.
  5. Work The Bugs Out: Practices To Work In, & On, Your Business, by Wendy Dickinson, Publish: TBD.  Excerpt: Free Downloadable PDFs to work through.
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Next Gen Prep: Curriculum for Family Businesses

37m · Published 22 Feb 17:00

This episode is from the Catalytic Conversations aired on IBGR.Network every Friday at 2 pm Eastern.  This was the Season 4 opener.  Let me know if you liked it, have questions, or suggestions for other topics you'd like to hear more about.  Thanks for listening!

Creating a family legacy is hard work.  Fewer than 20% of businesses make it to the fourth generation.  Why is that?  What contributes to the failures from one generation to the next.

A favorite resource is the PWC Family Business Survey series.  Today was take a look at the challenges for those in power to prepare the next generation for leadership.  Using the PWC Global Next Generation Survey from 2019, we will start off with a few discussion points:

  • Gaining top level experience is the #1 priority for NextGens in increasing their skills.  48% would like to do more shadowing/mentoring, 43% feels the need to network more with peers, 42% would like to gain experience outside of the family biz, 41% would like to gain international exposure.
  • The “incumbent” generation is not answering the call by and large.  2018’s Survey found that only 15% have succession plans and 44% had none.
  • Here are the skill Next Gens say are most important for the business and they need the space to make mistakes and gain experience in these areas:
    • Problem solving and strategic thinking 72%
    • Leadership 71%
    • Financial Management 57%

You, and your family, have dedicated significant resources to building the minds and confidence of your Next Gens.  But, are you willing to take this a step further – actually several steps further?  By designing a succession plan?  By creating a list of company needs that you present to the Next Gen to explore fit?

It takes courage and patience to hold the space for the growth and development of the Next Gen.  Identify learning and experience goals that yourNext Gen leaders can use to fill their knowledge and experience gaps.

  1. Begin by setting next gen up to be the best version of themselves.  The relationships between family members as well as with the business itself is explored, developed, and nurtured with the idea that the business will continue into perpetuity.
  2. Next, consider how far each person could go in leadership development, and in what areas (be specific!).
  3. Create a family employment policy - explore the roles waiting to be filled by the next generation.  Identify who might fill what roles, and how well the person fits the role.
  4. Organize regular family meetings.
  5. Develop a continuity plan for the family and for the business in the face of transitions of leadership, ownership, governance, and the family assets.

You can connect with Wendy Dickinson on FB, LinkedIn, and Instagram.  Visit IBGR.Network to download the full set of show notes.

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The Entrepreneurial Mindset: Mavis Tang, Co-Founder of Soundé

59m · Published 19 Feb 20:00

Have you forgotten what it felt like to start your business?  I’ve lost count of the number of business owners who have said, “If I had had any idea how hard it would be to get this business where it is today, I’m not sure I would’ve done it.”

Business owners usually nod their heads at this.  Yes, it was hard.  But, you learned a lot.  Many of the lessons learned at that point in the business get lost or forgotten as the company grows.

We’ve talked about innovation and disruption as well as pivots this year.  The pandemic emphasized the importance of scenario planning and contingency plans.  A number of businesses have gotten really creative and changed the way they do business.

How do mature businesses reconnect with that entrepreneurial spirit to reinvent the product, product delivery or the business model to compete in this marketplace?

My guest today is Mavis Tang of Soundé.  Mavis and her co-founders have brought a new product to an old market. I believe in their mission, vision and value proposition.  I invite you to listen to the path Soundé took, and let the possibilities for the future wash over you as you reimagine the business you lead.

This episode is from my weekly radio show on IBGR.Network.  I hope you enjoy it!

What the (O) needs to Know - Pay Attention to Alignment

  • The key Need To Know for an Innovator.
  • The things that surprised Mavis.
  • The steps Mavis took to prepare for ownership.

What the (O) Needs To Do - Aspire, Align, Accomplish

  • The people Mavis and her co-founders go to when they have questions.
  • Mavis’s strategy for dealing with conflicting priorities.  It’s all about communication.
  • The strategies Mavis and her co-founders have for dealing with conflicting opinions.  They respect and honor the vision first and foremost - agreement flows from there.
  • The advice Mavis offers to others out there who have an idea for a business.

Resources:

  1. Check out Sounde here.  Soundeapp is coming.  Sign up for the newsletter so that you and your family know when Sounde will be ready to beta test.  Can’t beat the price!
  2. 5 Obvious Mistakes First-Time Founders Make That Sink Their Startups” by Megan Holstein, entrepreneurshandbook.com, Medium, Dec. 2020.
  3. Decoding Quantum Thinking: What It Feels Like To Think Free”, by Kashyap Vyas, July 20, 2019.
  4. Disaster Preparation and Recovery For Any Size Business”, by Wendy Dickinson, Ascend Coaching Solutions, 2020.
  5. Why Design Thinking Works”, by Jeanne Liedtka, HBR, October 2018.
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Catalytic Conversations (Trailer)

59s · Published 19 Feb 18:15
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Vince Burruano: Thinking Outside of the Box

59m · Published 18 Feb 17:00

This was a special episode from my weekly radio show, Catalytic Conversations, on IBGR.Network radio on Fridays at 2 pm Eastern.  Vince Burruano, VP of Sales for the Commercial Division of JK Moving, is a leader to learn from - you can download the full show notes at IBGR.Network.

I’m currently working with several companies dealing with sales team crises.  One company has had three hires for the sales team without any success.  Another has had a sales manager who was successful pre-COVID and finds the current business landscape so difficult, he’s no longer able to lead.

I invited Vince to give us a snapshot of his innovative approaches to building a successful sales team.  Vince is a lifelong learner who is a student of leadership.  This was a valuable hour for picking up new ideas.

You are all here to learn.  A lot of you, like my clients, learn best by first hand experience.  Is it really necessary?  Vince is here to help you learn about the importance of sales leadership in growing your business.

Today you have the chance to learn through another leader’s experiences – saving you time, money, and energy.  I’m always happy to learn from someone else’s examples, aren’t you?

Vince outlined a number of steps to consider taking when evaluating your business talent needs:

  • Perform an honest assessment of your business.  Ask a trusted associate to help ensure you are seeing the world as it really is, and not how you think it is or should be.
    • Business culture and performance overall.  How is the customer experience?  Are you able to differentiate your offering from other competitors?  Do you create a positive memorable experience for those clients that engage your business?
    • Your sales organization.  Is it an asset or a liability?
    • Skills.  How good are they at the basics?  Are they growing professionally?  Can they develop organic business, or do they rely on leads from the firm?
    • Is there a defined and written sales process that incorporates best practices?  Is it continuously evaluated and tweaked for maximum impact and results?
    • Accountability.  Are goals clearly defined, measured, and areas needing improvement addressed?  Does everyone understand their mission and how it fits into the overall business?
    • Leadership.  Would a dedicated sales manager add value?  Could they drive your business to the next level while you focus on the big picture?
    • Development and Continuous Improvement.  Is everyone getting better each day?
    • Results.  Is your sales team creating profitable revenue?  Could they do even better with the right focus and support?
  • Are you the leader you need to be?
  • Manager vs. Leader – Managers do things right while leaders focus on doing the right things well.
  • Are you inspiring others to be their best?  Is your why believable?
  • Are you developing new leaders in your company?  Leaders are always in short supply and they are the cornerstone of all future growth.
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