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Encounter Culture

by New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs

New Mexico's deep artistic traditions have long engaged with the multifaceted histories and cultures of the state. At Encounter Culture, we talk with artists, historians, scientists, museum curators, and writers who are all a part of New Mexico's centuries' old lineage of helping us understand the places and people who make the Land of Enchantment so unique. https://podcast.nmculture.org/

Copyright: 2021-2024, New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs

Episodes

Rooted in Tradition, Focused on the Future: Celebrating The National Hispanic Cultural Center with Dr. Margie Huerta and Noël Bella Merriam

42m · Published 25 May 09:00

Is it possible for an arts organization to respect the hallowed neighborhood in which it resides and be future-focused?

Could it serve as a cultural home for locals while attracting worldwide attention?

Can its campus reverberate with the buzz of performances, exhibitions, and events yet provide space for quiet contemplation?

If the arts organization in question is The National Hispanic Cultural Center in Albuquerque, the answer is a resounding “yes.”

Encounter Culture host Charlotte Jusinski chats with Executive Director Dr. Margie Huerta and Artistic Director Noël Bella Merriam about the NHCC’s exciting, affordable programming as well as its ongoing efforts to preserve, promote, and advance Hispanic culture.

The multi-hyphenate institution, which sits in the middle of the historic Barelas neighborhood, is home to a museum, a performing arts center with three stages, a history and literary arts building, and Mundos de Mestizaje, the stunning 4,000 square foot concave fresco by Frederico Vigil.

As for the future of the NHCC, Margie maintains that community collaboration and support are vital. Inherent to that goal is education, connecting with schools in the surrounding communities, reiterating to students and their families that the NHCC is a place where they belong.

Cultivating inclusion and celebrating diverse identities. Who says the NHCC can’t do all the things?

Explore the events calendar and plan your visit to the National Hispanic Cultural Center, Albuquerque, NM.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

El Palacio - Fall 2021

El Palacio - Winter 2019

Visit https://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at El Palacio Magazine

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Show Notes: Lisa Widder

Associate Editor: Helen King

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

Instagram: @newmexicanculture

For more, visit podcast.nmculture.org.

History For Folks Who Don’t Like History at the New Mexico Farm & Ranch Heritage Museum with Heather Reed

41m · Published 11 May 09:00

As humans, we learn best when we don't realize that learning is taking place. We’re naturally drawn to hands-on displays and curious about reenactments. We can recall tiny details from those experiences more enthusiastically than the rote memorization of our school days.

Heather Reed is convinced that more people love history than let on precisely because they don’t realize they love history. She’s spent her career breathing life into dusty dates, artifacts, and historical personalities, then sharing that information under the guise of fun. As executive director of the New Mexico Farm & Ranch Heritage Museum in Las Cruces, NM, she continues that legacy, bringing her passion for teaching to this unique institution, inviting everyone to discover something new about the land beneath their feet.

Guests find a mix of indoor and outdoor exhibits spread across 40 acres, showcasing 4,000 years of the region’s farming and ranching history, from Indigenous traditions to the agricultural contributions of women. And, of course, there’s livestock, sheep and cattle breeds, some of which are native to New Mexico, as well as the ranch hands that care for them.

Farm & Ranch has a community center feel about it. On any given day, visitors explore the exhibits and interact with staff while area residents wander in to provide entries for the museum’s oral history project. If Heather had her way, every museum would feel like this: welcoming.

Plan a visit to New Mexico Farm & Ranch Heritage Museum. Las Cruces, NM, the next time you find yourself tooling around the southern end of I-25.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

El Palacio - Spring 2021

Visit https://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at El Palacio Magazine

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Show Notes: Lisa Widder

Associate Editor: Helen King

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

Instagram: @newmexicanculture

For more, visit podcast.nmculture.org.

Listen, and Speak the Truth: Collaborating Through Conversation on the Bosque Redondo Memorial with Manuelito Wheeler and Aaron Roth

44m · Published 27 Apr 09:00

Conversations worth having never come easy. Perhaps that’s why previous attempts to present a complete history of the Bosque Redondo Indian Reservation, an inhospitable million-acre concentration camp into which thousands of Navajo and Mescalero Apache people were forcibly relocated by the US government in the 1860s, fell short.

The primarily white cohort of state employees who initially created those exhibitions did so without input from Indigenous partners––the people whose ancestors suffered brutal mistreatment on The Long Walk and cultural genocide at Fort Sumner.

Although Fort Sumner Historic Site was established on the grounds of Bosque Redondo in 1971, it’s taken half a century to develop an exhibit that properly represents the history of this region. Or as properly as it can for now.

Encounter Culture host Charlotte Jusinski speaks with Aaron Roth, historic site manager, Fort Sumner Historic Site, and Manuelito Wheeler, director of the Navajo Nation Museum in Window Rock, AZ, about Bosque Redondo: A Place Of Suffering, A Place Of Survival on the eve of its grand opening in May 2022. The trio discuss Bosque Redondo’s tragic past, the impetus for reimagining its memorial, and amplifying tribal voices as a matter of authentic historical record.

For this permanent installation, the exhibit team created an environment in which visitors can form a deeper emotional connection with the Navajo and Mescalero people––two groups that the US government had identified as “problematic” in the 1800s during its drive to settle the West––so as to understand better the devastating effects of the 300+ mile death march and traumatic camp internment that followed.

Rethinking Bosque Redondo presented an opportunity for the museum to truly engage with the area’s difficult history, presenting a narrative that challenges non-confrontational whitewashed versions.

By combining multimedia storytelling with spaces that invite reflection, the interpretive exhibit seeks to promote more inclusive and, yes, difficult conversations going forward.

Bosque Redondo: A Place Of Suffering, A Place Of Survival opens on May 28, 2022.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

The International Coalition of Sites of Conscience

Billy the Kid Museum - Fort Sumner

Visit https://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at El Palacio Magazine

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Show Notes: Lisa Widder

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

Instagram: @newmexicanculture

For more, visit podcast.nmculture.org.

It Does Take Money: The Economic Impact of Art with Michelle Laflamme-Childs, New Mexico Arts and Rose Eason, gallupARTS

45m · Published 14 Apr 09:00

Wherever there are people, there is art. Sadly, wherever there is art, there are few creatives who can earn a living solely from their work.

Nowhere are those facts more apparent than in New Mexico, one of the most rural states in the Union, yet one laden with artistic riches.

Encounter Culture host Charlotte Jusinski explores the benefits of and mechanics for funding New Mexico’s robust artistic community with two women who know local arts advocacy best. Michelle Laflamme-Childs is executive director at New Mexico Arts, which oversees the distribution of state and federal funds to arts organizations in every corner of this land of (artistic) enchantment.

She’s joined by Rose Eason, director of gallupARTS, the nonprofit arts council of Gallup and McKinley County in the western part of the state. The trio discuss the breadth of New Mexico’s art scene and how important art is for the state’s landscapes: cultural, educational, and perhaps most importantly, economic.

As audience members, we admire the end product but rarely do we consider the costs and opportunities associated with its creation.

“Art is significantly more than a pretty picture on the wall,” says Michelle. It’s community, connection, and fuel for the state’s economic growth.

Learn more about gallupARTS and New Mexico Arts by visiting their respective websites.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Tierra Amarilla Theater Club

The Butterfly’s Evil Spell - by Federico García Lorca

Art 123 Gallery

LOOM Gallery

Gallup Coffee Company

Visit http://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at El Palacio Magazine

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Show Notes: Lisa Widder

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

Instagram: @newmexicanculture

For more, visit podcast.nmculture.org.

Season 2 - The Bottom Line of Art & History

3m · Published 30 Mar 09:00
Charlotte Jusinski is back for Season 2 of Encounter Culture!

In Season 1, we took you on a behind the scenes tour of the museums of Santa Fe. Now we're venturing out to discover the hidden, perhaps darker, histories of New Mexico and learning how fresh eyes translate those histories to the museum world.

We're looking at how art affects New Mexico's bottom line budget-wise, and giving you a preview of new exhibitions you should definitely check out this spring and summer

At this moment, we're deep in conversation with some of the people behind the Bosque Redondo Memorial, the New Mexico Farm and Ranch Heritage Museum, the National Hispanic Cultural Center, New Mexico Arts, the State Library, and more.

The new season starts this spring! We're excited to have you along for the ride as we encounter culture together.

Visit http://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski, Editor at El Palacio Magazine

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

Instagram: @newmexicanculture

For more, visit podcast.nmculture.org.

What's Important is the Art: The Legacy of Elaine Horwitch, Southwest Rising with Dr. Julie Sasse

47m · Published 24 Nov 10:00

In a fitting close to Encounter Culture’s inaugural season, host Charlotte Jusinski returns to where it began. The New Mexico Museum of Art’s exhibition Southwest Rising: Contemporary Art and the Legacy of Elaine Horwitch celebrates the woman responsible for launching this region’s contemporary art movement into the stratosphere.

Joining Charlotte to dish on the legendary gallery owner’s influence are Dr. Julie Sasse, Chief Curator at the Tucson Museum of Art and author of the book that informed the original exhibition at TMA, and Christian Waguespack, Curator of 20th-century art at the New Mexico Museum of Art, who reconceived the idea for MOA using works from its permanent collection.

“She was totally confident, totally unabashed,” recalls Julie. “She showed what she liked, and she liked boldness. She liked color. She liked precision painters. But she also liked abstraction. She had no problem showing Filipe Archuleta next to a Paul Jenkins, or a famous artist next to an emerging artist.” No one is in a better position to evaluate the Horwitch’s magic than the woman who spent 14 formative years by the impresario’s side, attending every party, documenting each sale, and cataloguing the impossibly vibrant collection for which the gallery owner was renowned.

Horwitch opened her first gallery in Scottsdale in 1973. By 1976, she had an outpost in Santa Fe, followed swiftly by Sedona, then Palm Springs. Her rise was meteoric, as were the careers of the artists she championed.

Although she fostered a summer camp and cocktails vibe, the art always came first. She displayed a shrewd business acumen and an impeccable ability to predict the “next big thing” coming out of the Southwest Pop scene in the 1970s and 80s. Horwitch was well-known for her support of female and indigenous artists––creators who didn’t often receive the same recognition (or fees) outside her gallery.

“It wasn't about your name. It wasn't about your pedigree,” says Christian. “It was about what you were producing and that merit, your merit as an artist. I think that that changed the game for a lot of gallerists and curators working here in the Southwest.”

For MOA’s interpretation of Southwest Rising, Christian made great use of the museum’s light-filled top floor gallery, creating an immersive experience that pays homage to Horwitch’s passion for contemporary Southwestern artistry and unabashed showmanship. The exhibit is also something of a tribute to Julie’s meticulous original narrative. “This work on this project has gotten me excited,” he says. “This is a time period and artistic moment that really needs some more digging into, and Julie has given that to us.”

Southwest Rising: Contemporary Art and the Legacy of Elaine Horwitch is on view at the New Mexico Museum of Art through January 2nd, 2022. Plan your visit to the New Mexico Museum of Art.

The beautiful book Southwest Rising: Contemporary Art and the Legacy of Elaine Horwitch, written by Dr. Julie Sasse, is co-published by Cattle Track Arts & Preservation and the Tucson Museum of Art.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Arizona's Pioneering Women Artists: Impressions of the Grand Canyon State - by Betsy Fahlman & Lonnie Pierson Dunbier

Ladies of the Canyons: A League of Extraordinary Women and Their Adventures in the American Southwest - by Lesley Poling-Kempes

Visit http://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz at Mondo Machine

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

For more, visit NewMexicoCulture.org.

Dressing With Purpose: Norwegian Bunad and Cultural Belonging with Laurann Gilbertson and Carrie Hertz, Museum of International Folk Art

42m · Published 10 Nov 10:00

Traditional clothing can inform, inspire, and connect. Dressing with Purpose: Belonging and Resistance in Scandinavia, which opens at the Museum of International Folk Art in December, examines three Scandinavian folk dress traditions—Swedish folkdräkt, Norwegian bunad, and Sámi gákti. Host Charlotte Jusinski explores the history, social implications, and present-day interpretations of these iconic, often intricately embroidered garments with guests Laurann Gilbertson, chief curator at Vesterheim Norwegian American Museum in Decorah, IA, and Carrie Hertz, curator of textiles and dress at MOIFA.

“If we’re going to really confront the legacies of things like colonialism, like racism, like inequality, we have to start thinking about all of the hidden and maybe not-so-hidden nuances that are contained in the words that we use.” Carrie’s counsel reminds us that terms used to describe most folk dress were, historically, intended to classify people, validating some by stigmatizing or exoticizing others. The textiles in Dressing with Purpose are not costumes or early versions of cottagecore. They’re exceptional examples of living traditions, tracing two centuries’ worth of social and political change across Scandinavia.

MOIFA has an exceptional collection of traditional dress from Scandinavia, thanks to the avid interest of Florence Dibble Bartlett, the museum’s founder. One such ensemble, the Norwegian bunad, is instantly recognizable to many with its black skirt, red vest, and embroidered breastplate. The bunad’s complicated fabric patterns and embroidery communicate multiple aspects of the owner’s life, from family origins to specific regional achievements.

Laurann points out that the bunad is something of a 20th-century phenomenon, especially in communities outside of Scandinavia with high Norwegian populations who wish to honor their ancestral home while acknowledging their current place. “It’s an easy way to have meaningful motifs from their own state or their community, but on a common Norwegian silhouette,” she says of the folks who’ve created modern, uniquely Norwegian-American bunads.

Dressing with Purpose encourages visitors to reflect on judgements they may hold, either consciously or unconsciously, about traditional dress. “We’re trying to look past all of those assumptions that have been projected onto these clothes, often by outsiders, to understand the perspective of the people who actually wear them,” explains Carrie. Beyond that, perhaps visitors might also recognize similarities between the Scandinavian immigration story and their own familial experiences.

Dressing with Purpose: Belonging and Resistance in Scandinavia is on display from December 12, 2021 through February 19, 2023. Plan your visit: Museum of International Folk Art.

After December 1, 2021, pick up your winter copy of El Palacio Magazine to read more about Sámi gákti from Laurann.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Vesterheim Norwegian-American Museum

Visit http://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz at Mondo Machine

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

For more, visit NewMexicoCulture.org.

A Circle That Begins Anywhere: Here, Now and Always at the Museum of Indian Arts & Culture with Tony Chavarria & Lillia McEnaney

43m · Published 27 Oct 11:00

From technological innovations to societal attitudes, a lot has changed in the last twenty years. As evolutionary processes go, the gallery-wide refresh of the celebrated permanent exhibition Here, Now and Always (HNA), which opened at the Museum of Indian Arts & Culture in 1997, offers exciting opportunities for greater collaboration with the Southwest’s Native peoples and vibrant new storytelling techniques.

Host Charlotte Jusinski chats with Tony Chavarria, Curator of Ethnology at MICA/Laboratory of Anthropology, and Curatorial Assistant Lillia McEnaney about the tangible and conceptual transformations. The trio also explores the history of museums as Euro-American colonial institutions and their future role as inclusive cultural facilitators.

From the moment it opened, HNA was groundbreaking. “It was a unique exhibition, especially for its time, because it was an exhibition that featured and relied heavily on native voice,” says Tony. That voice, essential to any authentic presentation, is (still) too often left out of standard interpretations at other institutions.

HNA didn’t simply include a few examples; it wove a rich Native narrative by Native peoples through every element. “Native voice actually went into much of the planning of the exhibition. [ ] The group of different curators, advisers, the Indian advisory panel––which also serves the museum in other contexts––were all involved in both selecting objects, writing about objects and interpreting objects as well,” Tony says.

Twenty years later, the museum’s commitment to tribal collaboration is stronger than ever. The revitalized exhibit continues its legacy of connecting ancestor to descendant, first-person storyteller with visitor. HNA utilizes ancient artifacts and modern pieces, such as the traditional Laguna dress that Deb Haaland wore for her swearing in as the United States secretary of the interior.

These state-of-the-art interactive displays are designed to emphasize the fluid nature of Native life. “You can add some more of those things [ ] that engage younger audiences into the museum to help enhance the learning experience,” says Tony of the bells and whistles planned for the space.

A revamped Here, Now and Always will broaden the visitor experience, immersing them in a vibrant, living culture. Tony and Lillia also hope that the exhibit will provoke additional conversations––about how we learn, how we listen, and how we confront colonization so as not to repeat mistakes from the past. “It’s more important than ever,” Lillia says, “for non-Native folks, especially, to understand the Indigenous histories of the lands we all live in and occupy.”

Take a virtual tour of the new exhibit: MIAC: HNA Gallery. Plan your visit to the museum: Museum of Indian Arts & Culture.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Collaboration, Multivocality, and Authority - by Felicia Garcia And Lillia McEnaney, El Palacio Spring 2021

Leaving the Ladder Down - by Diane Bird, El Palacio Winter 2019

Cannibal Tours in Glass Boxes: The Anthropology of Museums - by Michael M. Ames

Decolonization is Not a Metaphor - by Eve Tuck & K. Wayne Yang

Visit http://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz at Mondo Machine

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

For more, visit NewMexicoCulture.org.

An Underground Love Affair, The Palace Seen and Unseen with Archaeologists Cordelia Snow & Stephen Post

46m · Published 13 Oct 09:00

If Santa Fe held an election to decide the city's official meme, “I rebuilt the Palace of the Governors at my own expense” would surely garner a hefty number of votes. Various governors––Spanish, Mexican, and American––over the last 400 years have uttered versions of that phrase, highlighting their individual efforts to remodel and repair the oldest public building in Santa Fe.

Governor grandstanding aside, visitors expecting a gilded European-style building are often let down when they encounter the single-story adobe structure for the first time. But as host Charlotte Jusinski learns, the iconic landmark houses an archival treasure trove both above and below ground. She’s joined by Cordelia Snow and Stephen Post, the guest curators of The Palace Seen and Unseen: A Convergence of History and Archaeology, the new long-term exhibit at the New Mexico History Museum. The trio digs into four centuries of Palace history, exploring stories revealed in excavated artifacts and anticipating mysteries not yet uncovered.

“Depending on whom you ask, the Palace of the Governors is perhaps one of the most important, if not the most important, building in New Mexico in a lot of ways.” Cordelia, or Dedie as she’s known, doesn’t make that claim lightly. From that day in 1974, when she first set foot inside, Dedie immediately fell in love with the Palace and down its archeological rabbit hole. “It was, for a historic archaeologist, an absolute dream of a place to work,” she says, adding, “I had no more idea of what was going on where the archaeology was like Alice in Wonderland.”

While Dedie concentrated on the history hidden beneath the Palace floorboards, Stephen focused on the possibilities buried outside its walls. He began his career at the Palace in 1978, carefully sifting through the fine, sandy soil in search of historic bits and pieces.

A lot has changed over the last 40 years, and Stephen’s hopeful that modern techniques will positively impact archaeology’s future. “I think in the future, we’ll do a better job of being more careful about how the buried deposits and the remains left by past peoples will be treated,” he says, “so that we don’t unnecessarily disturb aspects of the past that could be there, should really be there, for another 400 years.”

The Palace Seen and Unseen is an intentionally titled exhibit. It reminds us that this historic site continuously reveals itself to us, inviting present-day visitors to connect with those from 400 years ago in the same magnificent space.


The Palace Seen and Unseen: A Convergence of History and Archaeology is at the New Mexico History Museum through June 19, 2026.

Visit http://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz at Mondo Machine

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

For more, visit NewMexicoCulture.org.

Failure and Flow with Glass Artist Robert 'Spooner' Marcus, Clearly Indigenous at Museum of Indian Arts and Culture

40m · Published 29 Sep 08:49

Glass isn’t typically the first material that folks associate with Indigenous artwork. And yet, the medium lends itself well to unique cultural interpretations, combining fundamental elements of earth, air, and fire with generational artistry. Native artists have been drawn to glassblowing since the 1970s, utilizing it to reinterpret traditional forms and tell thoroughly modern stories.

Host Charlotte Jusinski explores the hypnotic beauty on display at Clearly Indigenous: Native Visions Reimagined in Glass at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture (MIAC), the first exhibition of its kind on view until June 2022.

Joining Charlotte are her co-host for this episode Dr. Matthew Martinez, interim director of the museum, and Robert “Spooner” Marcus, one of the glassblowers featured in the exhibit. The two men share a bond that stretches back to their childhood on the reservation in Ohkay Owingeh, NM, an experience that informs their perspectives on art and colors this conversation.

This is perhaps one of the most aesthetically beautiful exhibitions ever to grace Santa Fe’s cultural landscape. That’s saying something given the city’s renowned collection of museums. Visitors to Clearly Indigenous descend from MIAC’s bright galleries into a dimly lit space, a journey that feels almost subterranean, forcing the senses to adjust to a new environment. This darkness emphasizes the molten glow emanating from within some of these intensely fragile pieces and recalls their beginnings in a blazing furnace. The effect casts a regal air over the entire exhibit.

Juxtapose the majestic characteristics of glass with the personable, often irreverent nature of its artists. Spooner is warm and easygoing despite working with this daunting, often dangerous material.

“Glass is a very fickle thing,” he says. “If you don't respond to what it's doing, then it's not going to cooperate.” That Zen-like approach to his craft was born when he answered a newspaper ad for a production line glassblower––no experience necessary. Spooner’s earliest pieces were juice cups, fashioned assembly line style over and over again. But the utilitarian end product didn’t diminish the allure of working with glass. “I walked into the shop, there's this big furnace that's blazing, and I basically did not turn back. I really knew from that moment that it was going to be in my life for a relatively long time.”

Twenty years later, Spooner’s technique-driven work is on display at MIAC alongside 32 fellow Indigenous glass artists in an exhibition that includes pieces by Dale Chihuly, the artist credited with bringing the medium to Indian Country. Clearly Indigenous highlights an immense range of forms and the ways in which glass can reference the past while remaining wholly modern.

Spooner agrees. He hopes the show inspires others to become better acquainted with the methods and magic of glass art. “It's that spark, that interest in creating that hopefully an exhibit like this [creates]. Somebody will see it and say, ‘Hey, you know, I want to try doing this!’ or maybe buy a piece of glass or go take a lesson.”

Clearly Indigenous: Native Visions Reimagined in Glass is at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture through June 16, 2022. To learn more about Robert “Spooner'' Marcus, visit his website and follow him on Instagram. Connect with Dr. Matthew Martinez via LinkedIn. Explore glass blowing classes and experiences in Santa Fe at Prairie Dog Glass.

Visit http://newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours and more.

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Encounter Culture, a production ofthe New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios.

Hosted by Charlotte Jusinski

Technical Director: Edwin R. Ruiz at Mondo Machine

Recording Engineer: Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe

Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann

Theme Music: D’Santi Nava

For more, visit NewMexicoCulture.org.

Encounter Culture has 45 episodes in total of non- explicit content. Total playtime is 29:11:27. The language of the podcast is English. This podcast has been added on August 4th 2022. It might contain more episodes than the ones shown here. It was last updated on May 3rd, 2024 11:13.

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