How to Sell Art: The Abundant Artist Podcast

Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

In this episode, a longtime friend of Cory Huff joins the podcast – Miriam Schulman! Miriam is a full-time artist, art teacher, and art business coach that helps artists (from amateur to professional) develop their skills, tap into their creativity and grow thriving art businesses.

With 20 years of art industry experience, Miriam shares her wisdom on what it takes to be an ‘artpreneur,’ how to make art that sells, and the most important aspects to focus on in your art business. Miriam also gives a preview of her upcoming book, Artpreneur, The Step-by-Step Guide to Making a Sustainable Living From Your Creativity, and some of its key takeaways on mindset, abundance, pricing to sell, and perfectionism.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Odd jobs that Cory and Miriam have had over the years.

[3:36] About Miriam’s book that is coming on January 31st, 2023, Artpreneur.

[4:41] Why Miriam decided to write Artpreneur and the creative process behind it.

[9:45] The technical side: The process of writing her book from setting deadlines to editing and finetuning.

[11:29] How Miriam created a work-life balance when she was writing her book.

[13:34] How Miriam almost ‘sabotaged’ herself with her book editing.

[14:23] Errors happen! Don’t let perfectionism block you from finishing a product.

[16:22] Why Miriam dedicated an entire chapter to mindset and abundance.

[18:25] Lower cost =/= Selling more product. Why ‘money mindset’ is a crucial piece to being a successful artpreneur.

[23:20] Prestige vs. charm pricing.

[26:14] The most important aspect behind why art truly sells.

[29:29] What makes Artpreneur unique and separates it from other books on the topic of selling your art?

[30:27] Miriam’s insights and advice regarding posting your art on social media.

[34:48] Why you need to focus on your email list.

[36:22] What’s next for Miriam Schulman?

[37:04] Where to learn more about Miriam online!

[38:45] Cory thanks Miriam for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:
Miriam Schulman’s Website

Artpreneur, The Step-by-Step Guide to Making a Sustainable Living From Your Creativity, by Miriam Schulman – Pre-order today!

Adam Hall on The Abundant Artist

The Inspiration Place Podcast with Miriam Schulman

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Joining the podcast today is Dan Cleary, a professional portrait and fine art photographer living in Dayton, Ohio. As the owner, operator and photographer of Cleary Creative Photography studio, Dan has served the Dayton region for more than 30 years. He works with various clientele from individuals, families, and small companies to fortune 500 corporations. Additionally, Dan has written and published the book, Wright Brothers: Then and Now, a compelling visual tribute to the pioneers of flight.

In this episode, Dan shares about his journey in discovering his passion for photography, how he came to open his own photo studio and build a client base, and the process of creating his newly published book.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] How Dan Cleary got started in photography.

[7:54] Dan’s photography journey post-grad school; How he came to learn his strengths in photography and open up his own photo studio, Cleary Creative Photography.

[10:44] About a recent large client of Dan’s.

[13:05] Where Dan grew up and his strong connection with Dayton, Ohio.

[17:55] About Dan’s photography series and book, Wright Brothers: Then and Now, and how he seamlessly blended historical images with the modern-day images he shot.

[25:22] How did Dan orchestrate such a large project both logistically and financially?

[29:13] How Dan managed his travel logistics and international flights for this project.

[33:36] Dan shares his experiences with marketing and getting his Wright Brothers book on the shelves.

[41:33] Why relationships are crucial in any business – especially art – for return customers.

[43:20] Cory thanks Dan for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:
Cleary Creative Photography

Cleary Fine Art Photography

Henri Cartier-Bresson: The Decisive Moment

Wright Brothers: Then and Now, by Dan Cleary

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

This week on The Abundant Artist podcast, Cory is thrilled to be joined by a return guest – Patricia Vargas! The last time Patricia was on the podcast was about 5 years ago – and suffice to say, a lot has changed since then! If you don’t already know Patricia, she is the owner of the renowned Parima Studio. Currently residing in Chino, CA, with her husband and tabby cat, Arya, Patricia is a visual artist who combines her passions of painting, designing, and technology to create large-scale, custom, abstract art using her computer as her canvas.

In this episode, Patricia shares what has changed for her since she was last on the podcast, how her art career has evolved, what her experience was like during the pandemic (and how she has adapted to these changes), and what she does day-to-day to balance her business practices while minimizing distractions. Patricia also offers some advice to other artists who may be interested in getting started in the digital art space and what they can do to market themselves online!

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Cory welcomes Patricia Vargas back to the podcast!

[:56] What Patricia has been up to for the last five years since she was last on the podcast and how her art career has evolved.

[3:00] What Patricia loves about creating digital paintings.

[3:45] How Patricia’s “nerdiness” shows up in her professional career as a digital painter.

[5:35] How Patricia is selling her digital paintings as prints online.

[7:05] Patricia explains what a general licensing deal looks like for her.

[8:09] Films that Patricia’s work has appeared in.

[8:49] How does Patricia license her work to a hotel? What does that process look like?

[10:40] How did Patricia build up relationships with art consultants?

[12:07] Patricia shares how she got started in being featured in a variety of magazines.

[13:25] Would Patricia agree that blogging in 2010 is what social media is today?

[14:09] How blogging helped Patricia get featured in magazines, in turn, helping her be noticed by art consultants.

[15:32] Does Patricia still do acrylic painting outside of her career with digital painting?

[16:25] Patricia’s favorite tools and technology for digital painting!

[17:37] The difference between the iPad Pro and the XP Pen Tablet.

[18:34] Does Patricia have any favorite Procreate toolsets?

[19:34] What Patricia likes about the XP Pen Tablet.

[20:11] What is the desktop device that Patricia connects her tablet to?

[21:30] How Patricia pivoted and adapted during the pandemic as a digital artist that sells their prints online.

[25:23] How Patricia balances her day-to-day business practices and minimizes distractions.

[27:53] Why has Patricia cut down on which social media platforms she focuses on?

[28:59] How Patricia leverages Pinterest and Tailwind to get leads.

[31:47] How Patricia tracks profitability with her ads.

[32:55] What books is Patricia reading right now?

[36:26] Patricia shares about a new exciting road opening up for her and her business.

[39:49] Cory thanks Patricia for joining the podcast once again!

Mentioned in This Episode:
The Abundant Artist Podcast: “Managing a Successful Print Studio with Patricia Vargas”

Patricia’s Etsy Shop: Parima Creative Studio

Patricia’s Instagram: Parima Studio

Patricia’s Website

Procreate

Apple Pencil

iPad Pro

XP Pen Tablet

Adobe Photoshop

Corel Painter

Creative Market

Epson Printers

Pinterest

Tailwind

The Dutch House

Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Joining the podcast today is Creative Director and Set Designer, Marina Skye! Skye does freelance set design and creative projects for restaurants, recording artists, designers, and clothing stores – just to name a few. Her creative designs have caught the attention of the fine art world; platinum recording artist, Jidenna; the infamous Stankonia studios; 2Chainz’ Street Execs, Mike Will’s Studio; and many more!

In this episode, Skye shares her journey as a creative professional and set designer, how she began building out her portfolio when she was first starting out, the exciting doors she has opened from always being open to new challenges and opportunities, the business side of how a set design project works from top to bottom, and what’s to come for the future of her business as she moves onwards and upwards!

Key Takeaways:

[:30] How Skye developed their aesthetic as an artist.

[2:02] About Skye’s background and their pathway as an artist.

[3:15] What Skye studied in college.

[3:29] Skye’s first job out of college and what led them to transition out of it and create their clothing line.

[6:18] How Skye began to develop a portfolio for their set design through decorating parties.

[8:06] Why Skye was OK with working for free while building her portfolio.

[11:28] How Skye’s free work transitioned into paid work.

[16:05] Skye shares about the sorts of opportunities that became available to her after her 6-month nightclub set design project.

[17:47] About Skye’s 3-month set design project, the Trap Music Museum.

[20:55] Skye breaks down the business side of how a set design project works.

[21:45] How the process of working on set design looks like from top to bottom.

[23:30] How Skye builds her mood boards and mockups for her clients.

[25:21] Who pays Skye when it comes to set designs for artists – the label or the artist themselves?

[25:55] The challenges of building set designs to be taken apart and put back up on the daily for touring artists.

[27:55] What Skye is excited about right now as an artist.

[29:50] How did COVID impact Skye’s business?

[32:35] Where to find Skye’s work online!

[33:17] Skye’s plans for the future on how to possibly expand her business.

[35:07] How Skye delegates in her business without being directly hands-on with all of her set designs.

[36:05] Cory thanks Skye for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:
Set by Skye

Set by Skye on Instagram

Trap Music Museum

Candytopia

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Joining the podcast today is one-of-a-kind artist, Genesis Be. Genesis is a critically acclaimed poet, peace activist, and artist from Biloxi, Mississippi; with her work being featured in The Associated Press, New York Times, NY Daily News, Soledad O’Brien, and VICE. Often using theatrical protest during her live performances, Genesis brings attention to both the global and localized issues surrounding racial justice, the peace movement, queer visibility, and gender equity. Her goal with her art is to bring human dignity to the forefront of our divided world; to advocate for compassion, vulnerability, and the burning need for freedom.

In this conversation, Genesis highlights and calls attention to the importance of artistic expression from the soul; the connection between activism and art; her personal story of growth, expression, and exploration as an artist; and why it is that she does art. Genesis also shares insights on the importance of trying new things and getting messy, finding the balance in making money while staying true to yourself and discovering solace in solitude.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Genesis Be shares about her love for the people of Mississippi and why she sees it as part of her mission to spread the message of love about the people in her state.

[2:40] Genesis highlights examples of what makes the Mississippi especially resilient and inspirational.

[4:47] How Genesis would describe her art.

[6:16] How Genesis’s artistic expression differs in the various mediums she expresses herself in (such as art, music, poetry, theatre, etc).

[11:52] Genesis describes what an NFT is and why she began to engage with the blockchain as an artist.

[14:34] The importance of trying new things as an artist and not being afraid of getting messy.

[15:00] Genesis shares about her favorite videogame.

[16:58] About the powerful and important activism work Genesis has been doing throughout her life.

[22:09] Why Genesis paints stick figures that interact with barriers; her artistic mission statement.

[27:49] Genesis’s insights into why our youths’ mental health is eroding and the main drivers at play.

[32:21] Genesis’s experience with finding solace in loneliness and solitude.

[36:00] How writing played a key part in Genesis’s journey early on.

[37:50] The difference between art on social media vs. in person.

[41:24] How Genesis makes a living and supports herself financially as an artist.

[43:29] Genesis’s advice to other artists on making money.

Mentioned in This Episode:
Genesis Be

Mississippi Rising Coalition

VyZen

“We Are Mississippi | Theo Sutton Interview”

Genesis’s activism work featured:

The Associated Press

New York Times

NY Daily News

Soledad O’Brien

VICE

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Returning to the podcast today is Flora Bowley! Flora is a painter, pioneer, permission-giver, and author of four books: The Art of Aliveness, Brave Intuitive Painting, Creative Revolution, and Fresh Paint. She believes that creativity has the power to awaken, empower, heal, and transform; and that you have everything you need right now to reignite your creative fire.

Blending over twenty-five years of professional painting experience with her background as a yoga instructor, healer, and lifelong truth seeker, Flora shares her advice for creating art intuitively, letting go, and rediscovering your love of art (without getting caught up in the technicalities and perfectionism). She speaks about what we can do to get unstuck, how she guides artists through artistic exploration in her retreats, her wisdom around staying connected to your creativity, and more.

If you’ve been feeling the pressure around creating art and are struggling to let loose, have fun, and reconnect with why you began creating art – this episode is for you! As a retreat leader and guide for other artists, Flora has incredible insight into what it takes to reignite your love for creating and connecting to your artistic expression.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Cory welcomes Flora back to the podcast!

[:52] Flora shares what she has been up to since her last appearance on the podcast.

[2:55] About Flora’s new retreat center.

[5:05] What kind of retreats has Flora historically led? How have the retreats that she runs now shifted? Why does she love doing retreats?

[12:40] Flora shares what she believes the purpose of art is, and how she guides artists in creating raw, beautiful art from their souls.

[14:37] Bringing the art of creativity to non-artists. Flora’s advice on reconnecting to the love of simply creating without getting caught up in the technicalities and technique.

[19:37] What inspired Flora to buy her own retreat center? What inspires her to do this work?

[26:22] The silver lining of the pandemic with regards to creating, change, and community.

[28:27] About the two books that Flora published during the pandemic.

[30:26] Flora shares what it was like to transition from writing about painting to writing about ideas for her newest book.

[34:23] About Flora’s painting book that she released during COVID, Fresh Paint.

[37:03] The artist paradigm.

[41:01] Cory’s book recommendations.

[42:04] What art may come out of the great resignation? Why are artists and non-artists craving simplicity?

[45:19] What mindfulness looks like to Flora and how she engages in it.

[47:50] How does Flora exercise/move outside of creating?

[50:18] Where to learn more about Flora.

Mentioned in This Episode:
Flora Bowley’s Website

Flora Bowley’s Books

“Brave, Intuitive Painting Careers with Flora Bowley” – Episode 5

“What It’s Like to Sell 100,000 Paintings with Jose Trujillo” – Episode 43

Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less, by Greg McKeown

Effortless: Make

“I realized that stopping before I was done, especially with the process-oriented thesis where I'm not completely in control. I'm like in peripheral control of what's. Not all mine. That leaves room for the viewer to come into it when everything's locked down and every detail is nailed down. I find that work can often be less engaging. If it's got a little space where you can enter into its imperfections maybe, or it's question marks. That seems to go along well with the idea of being process-driven.” – Blair Vaughn-Gruler

In this episode of The Abundant Artist Podcast, we are joined by Blair Vaughn-Gruler, Blair makes paintings that are driven by procedure and process. Accumulation, repetition, erasure, and the physical motions made in the process of mark-making harken back to her many years practicing martial arts and foreground the body’s relationship to painting.

A Michigan native and New Mexico transplant, Vaughn-Gruler has been obsessed with painting since childhood. Her spare, non-objective compositions are exercises in organizing space. Even when shapes or lines repeat themselves to excess, a calm arises out of the chaos.

As the conceptual love child of Cy Twombly and Agnes Martin, Blair (born in 1955) makes paintings to reconcile her early modernist training with the lived experience of the information age.

She holds a BFA in painting from Northern Michigan University and an MFA in Visual Art from Vermont College of Fine Art.
She and her husband Ernst Gruler were owners of GVG contemporary located in Santa Fe, New Mexico which has represented evolving abstract and non-objective Arts, fun, figurative, and functional sculpture and are carefully curated for the past 10 years.

Join us as Blair, discusses her process-driven works, sharing her thoughts on how art makes her evoke emotions, dealing better ways with gallery owners, and tips for taking yourself seriously as an artist.

Let’s tune in to her story!

[00:00 - 12:13] A Conversation Between the Media and The Artist: A Process-Driven Work

• Painting helps you organize your brain chemistry.
• How it becomes a process-driven work and a conversation between an artist and its medium.
• Blair describes how her work responds to her and vice versa.
  • She responds emotionally and intellectually
  • The media responds through her process as shown by mark-making.
• Blair answers how she decides to finish or abandon a piece that is processed.
  • She exhausts all resources. And makes sure to leave a room for the viewer to come into
  • She believes when every detail is nailed down, it would be less engaging than those of that who has

A little imperfections and question marks around it.

• Artist observes that this accessibility comes from the physical sensation of the work, which helps evoke emotion.
• She shares her breakthrough moment when they were in graduate school and how felt engaged with her paintings
  • “I actually felt like I took them in through my body instead of my intellect” – Blair Vaugh-Gruler

[12:14 - 24:10] How to Work Better with Gallery Owners

• Working with galleries can be difficult.
• Blair shares tips for avoiding rejection in the Art World.
  • Research to find out if the gallery is interested in artists and if they have a submission process
  • Be ready with a good body of work and be willing to put in the effort to build a relationship with the
    Gallery.

• The Many Costs of Running a Gallery and can be difficult to make a profit.

[24:11 - 31:40] Expenses of Being an Artist

• Living in Santa Fe, New Mexico, Blair points that there are many expenses associated with being a successful artist in the city.
  • Payroll,
  • advertising
  • networking fees.
  • Shipments and insurance
• It’s important to established a good gallery relationship if you want to be successful.
• A good gallery will have salespeople and administrative staff as well as researchers to help you choose the right art pieces for your gallery.

[31:41 - 35:31] " Discovering the Art Genealogy of Your Favorite Artists”

• Genealogy is a passion of Blair
• Blair’s journey into abstract expressionism was influenced by artists like Jackson Pollock
• For the author, following the lineage of an artist is important to gaining confidence in one's own work
• Blair recommends reading books or watching films about the artists mentioned in the show.

[35:32 - 38:22] Closing Segment

Key Quotes:

“You can put water media on there and it's going to suck the pigment into the clay, but you can't control it. So that's what makes it a conversation like I do this, it does that. I go, oh. That's not what I meant. Okay. Now I have to do this and now it does that. And that's where the conversation comes from. That is the fun part for me” – Blair Vaughn-Gruler

“You have to do some research. you have to figure out where you might want to be.” - Blair Vaughn-Gruler

“I think it's easy to get too focused on the commodity factor, The commodity, getting the physical object and, getting that sold to sort of throwing the baby out with the bath water, because what everybody's looking for in the making and the collecting. Are sort of the connection and the intangible glimpse into the mystery of creativity” – Blair Vaughn-Gruler

Resources mentioned:

Agnes Martin

https://www.moma.org/artists/3787

Jackson Pollock

https://www.moma.org/artists/4675

See Blair Vaughn-Gruler works at gvgcontemporary.com

The Abundant Artist exists to dispel this notion and teach artists like you about all of the other ways that you can make a living from your art.

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Far from the days after dropping out of art college, and becoming uncertain about his future in the arts, Najee has forged a successful career as an artist, being featured in numerous solo and group museum shows, television broadcasts, and print publications. As well as these accomplishments, he has skillfully combined his creative edge, and business acumen to develop a steadily growing online community that documents, preserves and promotes the contributions of the African American arts community.

Let’s tune in to his story!

[00:01 - 07:07] Opening Segment

• The Poor People’s Campaign
• A children-centered campaign that brings conversation on environmental racism and injustice
• The connection of the Poor People’s Campaign with the Civil Rights Campaign

[07:08 - 17:55] Black Art in America

• BAIA: A community and resource in one
• How BAIA has grown and created its own culture and impact in the art community and society
• There’s a space for everybody in black art
• Creating legacies, leaving an impact to the world

[17:56 - 29:34] Building Art Communities and Leaving an Impact

• Tangible level community building
• Najee’s vision for BAIA’s headquarters
• Building Communities for Black Artists
• Utilizing space and bringing more culture in America
• Participative theaters and galleries
• Coming Soon for BAIA: School Arts Education
• Walking around the neighborhood and engaging with people on the ground

[29:35 - 38:00] The Creative Economy

• Najee remembers creative spaces during his childhood
• The Art in Najee’s Home
• Why commerce kills creativity
• Widen your lens and look at people from another perspective

[38:01 - 45:01] Closing Segment

• Najee shares how to support artists of color
• Challenges in the organizational side

Connect with Najee through Instagram. Visit Black Art in America or you can also go to his personal website and be a part of our mission of documenting, preserving, and promoting the contributions of the African American arts community.

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People Mentioned

• Dr. Dean Kane
• Margaret Burroughs
• Joyce Owens
• Kevin Cole

Tweetable Quotes

“As an artist, there are times where we have to lend our creative energy to something that could be so much more impactful or bring attention to an area that needs so much attention.” - Najee Dorsey

“People want to create and they want to be supported. And so part of that has to do with what the artist may naturally be interested in.” - Najee Dorsey

“If we could find more ways to be more giving, more loving, and more supportive, it doesn't take big things all the time to do that. That's how we build, that's how we grow. That's how we share and can love on each other and build a community that we all can be proud of want to be a part of.” - Najee Dorsey

Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Multidisciplinary artist Zeph Farmby joins the podcast today to share his journey as an artist from tagging on the streets to selling his shirts in major stores, being noticed and commissioned by A-list clients, creating original pieces for broadcasts worldwide, and showcasing his work in exhibitions. Combining his graffiti skills with his formal art education, Zeph’s unique art style stands out in the crowd.

In this episode, Zeph shares about the major influences in his life and art, how he stays true to art, his experiences with getting a formal art education, his entire art journey, and his advice to young artists on how to build a sustainable art business that allows you to make a living.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] How Zeph and Cory first met.

[1:46] Would Zeph describe himself as a “collage artist”?

[2:37] How Zeph first got started as a graffiti artist.

[6:03] Zeph explains some of the culture and terms of graffiti.

[13:05] Major influences on Zeph’s style and how his art journey led to where he is today.

[17:45] Zeph’s journey from not being able to sell a T-shirt at the local flea market to having his shirts solid in one of the hottest stores in Chicago.

[27:43] How wanting a hat influenced Zeph and his art in a major way.

[31:49] Zeph shares about his journey and development of marrying his two styles together.

[40:13] Zeph shares more about his art journey after moving out of Chicago and one of the pivotal pieces he created that helped him not only stand out in the crowd but get noticed by big-time music producer, Swizz Beatz.

[49:48] Zeph shares his experiences and experimentations with art exhibitions and installations in Chicago and New York from 2016 onward.

[54:30] Zeph’s business breakdown and his main sources of income as an artist.

[56:16] Zeph’s advice to young artists on how to build a sustainable art business that allows you to make a living.

[58:08] How does Zeph manage to balance murals, originals, commissions, merchandise, etc? Is it difficult or enjoyable to switch between these different aspects of business?

[1:00:09] Cory thanks Zeph for joining the podcast.

Mentioned in This Episode:
Zeph Farmby

Clubhouse

Mr. Brainwash

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of ‘the starving artist’ and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

This week, Cesar Biojo joins the podcast! Cesar is a Barcelona-based Colombian oil painter and co-founder of Kaleido, an online network that supports artists, collectors, and art galleries alike.

In their conversation together, Cesar shares about his process of creating his unique existential artwork, why existentialism fuels his work, and his invaluable advice on growing as an artist, becoming a better communicator, delving deeper into your work, and discovering your purpose. He also shares about Kaleido, its mission, and its fascinating augmented reality feature that allows users to virtually explore an artist’s gallery.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Why Cesar often quotes Sartre alongside his work.

[6:04] How did Cesar find/create his purpose?

[10:55] How Cesar creates his work and how the concept of existentialism influences his process.

[14:44] How art and therapy collide.

[17:19] Cesar’s advice to young artists around the intersection of therapy, making a career of art, and inspiration.

[19:28] Cesar’s tips for growing and exploring as an artist.

[21:40] Why being able to explore existentialism, emotion, and philosophy can make you a better communicator but not necessarily a better artist.

[22:48] Cesar’s insights on whether or not you need a formal education to “make it” as an artist.

[24:22] What Kaleido is, what its mission is, and why Cesar is a part of it.

[28:47] About the augmented reality feature that is unique to Kaleido

[30:00] Cesar’s involvement in Kaleido and how Kaleido protects artists.

[33:06] Cesar’s predictions on NFTs.

[35:44] Cesar discusses the progression and future of augmented reality.

[39:55] Where they are planning on heading with Kaleido regarding augmented reality.

[42:50] Where and how to learn more about Kaleido.

[47:25] Cory thanks Cesar for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:
Cesar Biojo

Instagram @CesarBiojo

“How Cindy Sherman Redefined Self-Portraiture”

Kaleido

Ready Player One (2018, Film)

Minority Report (2002, Film)

Neuromancer, by William Gibson

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