9to5Mac Happy Hour

Benjamin and Zac discuss the curious rumors about a 20-inch foldable iPad/MacBook, and the latest Vision Pro content developments. iOS 18 may let users change the icons of the apps on their home screen, but how exactly? We also have more insight into Apple’s AI plans and its approach to handling user data privacy while remaining feature competitive.

And in Happy Hour Plus, Benjamin and Zac talk more about the genuine utility of ChatGPT in daily life.

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• Apple’s WWDC opportunity: why iOS 18 may prove pivotal to taking AI mainstream
• iOS 18 Siri will better understand people, events, locations – report
• Vision Pro Marvel app reviews: ‘Best experience’ or ‘flimsy and meh’
• OpenAI is helping Apple fix Siri, and that has Microsoft worried
• Apple’s artificial intelligence servers will use ‘confidential computing’ techniques to process user data while maintaining privacy
• Apple’s WWDC opportunity: why iOS 18 may prove pivotal to taking AI mainstream
• Apple confirms WWDC keynote details for AI-focused iOS 18, Platforms State of the Union, and more
• Customizing iOS app icons could be more impactful than it seems
• Apple may label iOS 18 artificial intelligence features as a beta preview, signaling Apple is still playing catch-up
• Rumor: iOS 18 will let users create custom emoji using generative AI
• Report: iOS 18 will let users recolor app icons, and place them wherever they want on the home screen
• Apple elaborates on rare iOS 17.5 bug that resurfaced deleted photos
• Welcome to the Ultra era, where Apple is making iPhones, MacBooks, and iPads more luxury than ever

Benjamin and Chance react to the surprise reports of a major form-factor change coming to the iPhone in 2025, with the addition of a new redesigned ‘Ultra’ model priced above the current Pro Max. The Plus is also expected to go away next year. iOS 17.5.1 includes a fix for the deleted photos bug but Apple yet again neglects to explain what happened. And, Apple Music causes a stir with their Best 100 albums list.

And in Happy Hour Plus, Benjamin and Chance discuss the appeal of the newly announced Peacock, Apple, and Netflix Comcast ‘StreamSaver’ bundle.

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• Apple Music 'best albums of all time' countdown reveals the top 10
• Apple Music kicks off 10-day '100 Best Albums' of all time countdown
• Rumor: iOS 18 to include new 'smart song transitions' feature for Apple Music
• Apple launches iPhone trade in promotion, get boosted credit for a new iPhone for a limited time
• Apple says iOS 17.5.1 fixes 'rare' bug that caused deleted photos to return
• iOS 17.5 is allegedly resurfacing pictures that were deleted years ago
• Apple Plans a Thinner iPhone in 2025 — The Information
• iPhone 17 rumors: New design, 'Slim' model to replace 'Plus’, more
• All-screen M5 MacBook with foldable display and Vision Pro price now rumored for 2026
• Netflix, Apple TV+ and Peacock bundle priced at $15/mo for Comcast Xfinity customers

Benjamin gives his thoughts on his brief experience using the new M4 iPad Pro hardware, while Chance ponders a purchase. Apple previews some exciting new iOS 18 accessibility features, and we gist more insight into Apple’s AI plans with reports that the company is already hosting Apple Silicon chips in its server farms.

And in Happy Hour Plus, Benjamin and Chance react to the increasing likelihood that John Ternus becomes Apple’s next CEO, in the fullness of time. Subscribe at9to5mac.com/join.

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• Here’s how the new iOS Cross-Platform Tracking Detection works
• Apple announces new accessibility features, including Eye Tracking - Apple
• iOS 17.5 is now available: Here's everything you need to know
• Apple previews iOS 18 accessibility features including eye tracking and music haptics
• CarPlay in iOS 18 will add these new accessibility features
• iOS 18 will let you use custom voice phrases to trigger actions
• Vision Pro will soon be able to show live captions of everything being spoken around you
• M4 iPad Pro reviews praise OLED display; criticize price, software
• Hands-on with the nano-texture M4 iPad Pro [Video]
• Here's how much lighter the iPad Pro's new Magic Keyboard actually is
• Not an iPad Pro Review: Why iPadOS Still Doesn’t Get the Basics Right
• Apple reportedly developing new dedicated chip for AI data centers
• Bloomberg: iOS 18 AI tech to rely on data centers with Apple silicon
• iOS 18: Apple finalizing deal to bring ChatGPT to iPhone
• Apple to unveil brand new Siri at WWDC powered by generative AI
• iPhone 17 rumors: New design, 'Slim' model to replace 'Plus’, more
• Apple allegedly planning foldable 20.3-inch hybrid for 2025, foldable iPhone in 2026
• John Ternus emerging as most likely successor to Tim Cook as Apple CEO

Benjamin and Chance react to all the announcements out of the spring ‘Let Loose’ event, including the radically thin new iPad Pro, the new 11-inch and 13-inch iPad Air lineup, what to expect from the M4 chip, and how the event compared to their expectations going in overall.

And in Happy Hour Plus, Benjamin and Chance reflect on how they feel the video event format is performing for Apple, and whether it makes sense for the company to return to the live keynote style, sometimes. Subscribe at9to5mac.com/join.

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• Here's what Apple announced at its iPad-focused ‘Let loose’ event
• iPad Air 6: Redesigned model available in 11-inch and 13-inch sizes, landscape front camera, more
• Apple announces new iPad Pro: OLED display, M4 chip, thinner redesigned chassis
• Apple unveils M4: Its first chip made for AI from the ground up
• New versions of Final Cut and Logic Pro for iPad take advantage of the power of the M4 chip
• Apple doubles down on AI virtual musicians, adds intelligent stem splitting, more in new Logic Pro for iPad and Mac
• Apple debuts Magic Keyboard for M4 iPad Pro with larger trackpad, function row, aluminum palm rest
• Apple Pencil Pro launches, with squeeze gesture, roll, FindMy
• Apple reduces iPad 10 price to $349, discontinues iPad 9 with Home button

Benjamin and Chance assess the final iPad rumors ahead of next week’s ‘Let Loose’ event. Beats launches an incredibly compelling new addition to their headphones lineup, the Beats Solo Buds. At the same time, Apple fails to acknowledge what happened with people getting locked out of their Apple IDs over the weekend, in the same week as it releases a statement promising to fix an issue with iPhone alarms.

And in Happy Hour Plus, Benjamin and Chance discuss what podcast client they currently use and why, and how their listening habits reflect their app preferences. Subscribe at9to5mac.com/join.

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• Beats Solo 4 hands-on: the most iconic Beats headphones just got better
• Apple debuts new Beats Solo Buds with 18-hour battery life for $79
• Apple's Beats Pill speaker could be about to make a comeback
• Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation
• Apple working on fix for bug causing iPhone alarms to not play sounds
• iOS 18 rumor: These new AI features are coming to Safari
• EU will force Apple to add app sideloading, alternative browser engine support to iPad
• Report: iOS 18 to update many of the built-in apps, home screen updates, 'modular' design tweaks
• Gurman: New iPad Pro may actually be powered by the M4 chip, touting AI features
• M4 iPad Pro: Will Apple put a brand new chip in its next iPad?
• New Apple Pencil to include haptic feedback and new gestures

Benjamin and Chance get hyped for the just-announced Apple event, entitled ‘Let Loose’ set for May 7, in which we expect Apple to finally update the iPad hardware lineup. There’s also rumors that Apple is preparing to end FineWoven case production, and a weird curio that the iPhone 17 Plus screen may get slightly smaller. Elsewhere, AirPlay for hotels finally arrives and Apple is nearing a deal to exclusively stream the 2025 FIFA Club Word Cup.

And in Happy Hour Plus, Chance’s Mac broke.Subscribe at 9to5mac.com/join.

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• Apple announces special event for May 7: 'Let Loose'
• Tim Cook hints at new Apple Pencil 3 coming next month
• Ross Young: New iPad Air won’t feature mini-LED after all, but a new mystery iPad is coming in Q4
• Rumor: Apple ends production of FineWoven cases and watch bands, following complaints
• Apple still has one more 'season' of FineWoven accessories in the works, but the end is near
• Kuo: Apple cuts Vision Pro shipments, now 'reviewing and adjusting' headset strategy
• AirPlay streaming launches today on TVs at IHG hotels and resorts
• Full list of hotels with AirPlay streaming support
• Report: iPhone 17 Plus to feature a smaller screen than current 'Plus' phones
• Gurman: iOS 18 AI features to be powered by 'entirely on-device' LLM, offering privacy and speed benefits
• Apple nearing billion-dollar streaming TV deal with FIFA; still in the running for NBA rights
• Yes, the YouTube app now hijacks your Apple TV's screen saver

Benjamin and Chance discuss the latest in Apple news, including Web Distribution for EU users launching in iOS 17.5 beta 2, we get our first sense of the M4 Mac release scheduled and the company opens up its third-party repair policies further. Also, the Humane Ai Pin debuts to a very mixed critical response.

And in Happy Hour Plus, we talk about our multitasking and window management habits on macOS.Subscribe at 9to5mac.com/join.

Note from Chance: We had some technical difficulties this week, so the audio quality isn't up to our normal standards. We apologize and will be back to normal next time!

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• Game Boy emulator now available on the iPhone following App Store rules change [update: gone]
• iPhone 'iGBA' emulator removed from App Store, but we aren't sure why
• Here's why Apple removed the first Game Boy emulator from the App Store
• The Verge’s Humane AI Pin review
• MKBHD’s AI Pin review
• iOS 17.5 beta 2 coming today with new Web Distribution sideloading feature in the EU
• Apple will relax repair policy to allow used genuine parts with select iPhones
• Apple's John Ternus defends iPhone parts pairing as 'not evil'
• Here's when to expect the first M4 Macs to launch
• Apple aiming to release first M4-powered Macs this year with a focus on AI

Benjamin and Chance delve into the latest rounds of iOS 18 rumors, including a curious discovery of a new ‘Safari browser assistant’ in development. Apple has also changed the rules surrounding game emulators in the App Store, with somewhat unclear implications. Apple News+ adds a new Quartile word puzzle, and the wait for the new iPad Pro continues.

And in Happy Hour Plus, Chance considers his smart home strategy ahead of the move to his new house. Subscribe at9to5mac.com/join.

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• Rumor: iOS 18 to include new 'Safari browsing assistant' AI feature
• iOS 18 reportedly bringing these two upgrades to Apple Maps
• iPadOS 18 rumored to drop support for these iPads; iOS 18 support unchanged
• How Apple is making sure Vision Pro doesn't end up like Google Glass
• App Store guidelines now allow game emulators; more
• iOS 17.5 expands Puzzles collection with leaderboards and new 'Quartiles' word game
• New iPad Pro and iPad Air launch likely set for second week of May, expect iPad Pro price increases
• iPadOS 17.5 confirms new display for next-gen iPad Pro

Benjamin and Chance discuss the bizarre idea that Apple is interested in making a humanoid robot to help with household chores, as its “next big thing”. Also, Apple launches the first ever sports ‘film’ shot in Immersive Video, and releases Spatial Personas for all Vision Pro users.

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• Apple launches first ever Immersive Video sports film for Apple Vision Pro
• New spatial Persona beta feature launching for Apple Vision Pro users today
• Bloomberg: New iPad Pro and iPad Air updates expected in 'early May'
• iOS 17.5 beta 1: Here's everything new
• iPadOS 17.5 hints at new 'squeeze' gesture for Apple Pencil 3
• Gurman: Apple working on personal robotics as next skunk-works project
• Apple sues former iOS engineer for leaking Journal app, Vision Pro details, and more

Benjamin and Chance go deep on the Department of Justice vs. Apple suit, in which the DOJ alleges Apple’s iPhone monopoly is illegally maintained. In happier news, Apple announced the dates for WWDC 2024 where we expect to see major AI announcements as part of iOS 18, and much more.

And in Happy Hour Plus, we rank our favorite WWDC invite artwork from the last decade. Subscribe at9to5mac.com/join.

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• WWDC 2024 confirmed for June 10: iOS 18 and more expected
• Apple teases 'Absolutely Incredible' AI-focused WWDC
• Apple says DOJ 'threatens who we are' as it vows to 'vigorously defend' against iPhone antitrust lawsuit
• United States sues Apple: Read the full DOJ lawsuit document here
• Apple says it spent three years trying to bring Apple Watch to Android
• Understanding the DOJ's Antitrust Complaint Against Apple - MacStories
• WWDC artwork over the years
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