The Minds of Madness - True Crime Stories

One after the other, the children just kept dying.

By the time Laura Elizabeth Folbigg was laid to rest at just one-and-a-half years old, the world wanted answers, and her mother Kathleen Folbigg stood accused of one of the most heinous crimes imaginable, the murder of four of her own children, all under the age of two.

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Research & Writing:
Matt Snell

Sources:
7news.com.au: Kathleen Folbigg’s ex-husband Craig Folbigg speaks out after her pardon
ABC.net.au Kathleen Folbigg conviction questioned after scientists discover genetic mutation which 'likely' killed two children
BBC: Kathleen Folbigg: Woman jailed over infant deaths pardoned
BHP: Our history
CNN: Genetics may free a woman convicted of killing her 4 babies and help other parents explain the unexplainable
Crimelibrary.org: Her Father's Daughter - The Kathleen Folbigg Story
Daily Mail: Read the ominous handwritten letters a convicted baby killer sent to her best mate from behind bars - as they claim new evidence proves she DIDN'T smother her four kids to death: 'She's innocent'
Huntervalley.com
Justice for Kathleen Folbigg: Plea for Craig Folbigg to Provide His DNA
Mamamia: When Kathleen Folbigg was 15, she learned the truth about her family's dark history
Mayo Clinic: Sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS)
Nationwide Children’s Hospital: Laryngomalacia
New Zealand Herald: Kathleen Folbigg: Notorious serial killer savagely bashed after moving prisons
news.com.au: Inside serial baby killer Kathleen Folbigg’s violent and tragic life
Redacted report of Dr Michael Diamond dated 16 April 2019
Skynews.com.au: Tracy Chapman tells Kathleen Folbigg's former husband 'no point holding grudges' after ex wife pardoned over kids' deaths
Supreme Court of New South Wales: R v Folbigg [2005] NSWCCA 23 (17 February 2005)
The Age: 'I read her diary,' husband tells court
The Age: Killing them softly
The Daily Telegraph: Crime Week — The true story of child killer Kathleen Folbigg
The Daily Telegraph: Kathleen Folbigg: Scientists plea for ex-husband's DNA
The Guardian: Kathleen Folbigg hoped for ‘genetic miracle’ after murder convictions, prison letters show
The Guardian: Kathleen Folbigg pardoned and released after 20 years in jail over deaths of her four children
The Guardian: Kathleen Folbigg to testify at inquiry into convictions for killing her four babies
The Guardian: Kathleen Folbigg’s ‘fierce women’ on the need to challenge misogyny in criminal cases
The Sydney Morning Herald: ‘Dear Trace’: Kathleen Folbigg’s prison letters to childhood friend

Join us, as we examine the mysterious murder at Camp Nelson Lodge and the unbelievable twists and turns that came in its wake.

You’ll hear how greed, blackmail, and the need to tie up loose ends, resulted in a second murder that finally unraveled the mystery at Camp Nelson…or did it?

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Special Thanks:
Mark Pinsky
Drifting Into Darkness

Featured Podcast:
Stop The Killing - https://evergreenpodcasts.com/stop-the-killing

Research & Writing:
Ryan Deininger

Editing:
Aiden Wolf

Sources:
LA TIMES (by Mark Pinsky) 
People v Hood (1997)
Blood & Money: The Hitman’s Tale
Parole Denial 2012 
Power Privilege & Justice
Bonnie’s Blog
Murder in the Mountains (Murdered by Morning)
The San Bernardino County Sun
The San Bernardino County Sun #2
The San Bernardino County Sun #3
The Handford Sentinel
The Fresno Bee
January 17, 1989 | Orange County Register, The (Santa Ana, CA) | Robin Pierson The Register | Page E01 

On February 1st, 1966, hundreds of spectators lined up outside the Dade County Courthouse in Miami Florida, hoping to gain admission to a murder trial that had taken the area by storm.

The courtroom was filled to maximum capacity, mostly women, eager to catch a glimpse of one of the accused Candace Mossler, a socialite and wealthy heiress taking center stage in a trial so salacious, people under the age of 21 were barred from entering the courtroom.

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Dark Windows - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dark-windows-podcast/id1359306900

Research & Writing:
Nicole Colin & Katherine Thomas - Epigram Literary Group

Editing:
Aiden Wolf

Sources:
“No One Is Perfect” by Ron Smith, second edition 
A Crime to Remember Season 2 Episode 1
The Notorious Mrs. Mossler
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49261400/jacques-moscovici-mossler 
Miami New Times
Washington Post
Mossler v. Foreman
Jrank.org
Chron.com
The Photo on The Mantel
Prohibited Sexual Contact  
New York Times
Miami Beach 411
Barnett Garrison Obituary (2009) 
Gizmodo
The Model Always Marries Twice 
Dead In Chicago

They say you can get almost anything online. Well, in 2015, teenage brothers, Robert and Michael Bever tested this theory and found it to be true. Anything they could dream up was just a click away.

And what they had in mind was truly frightening.

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Crimepedia - https://www.crimepediapodcast.com

Research & Writing:
Matt Snell

Editing:
Aiden Wolf

Sources:
2 News Oklahoma: Notes from the courtroom as Robert Bever takes stand in brother's murder trial
Ancestry.com [record search for April & David Bever]
BBC: How many US mass shootings have there been in 2023?
CBS News: Cops: Brothers killed family as part of mass murder plot; wanted fame
City of Broken Arrow: History of the Name of Broken Arrow
Justia US Law: Bever v. State
KJRH: Documents, 911 call notes from Broken Arrow quintuple homicide released
KTUL: Bever Children Remembered As Sweet and Quiet
KTUL: Bever family home still standing, neighbors need help tearing it down
New York Daily News: Oklahoma teen 'laughed' while describing killing five family members as part of brothers' gruesome mass murder plan
News 9: Woman shares memories of Bever children’s public outing on day of the murders
News on 6: Neighbour says accused teen murderer is unrecognizable from person she knows
News on 6: Notes from the courtroom as Robert Bever takes stand in brother’s murder trial
NY Daily News: SEE IT: Video of Oklahoma brothers emerges, shot before they possibly filmed themselves murdering parents, siblings
PEOPLE: Oklahoma House Where 2 Brothers Allegedly Stabbed Parents and 3 Siblings to Death Had a 'Sketchy Vibe,' Neighbor Tells PEOPLE
Reddit: (April Bever’s posts as u/aokiemom)
The Blitz 1170AM: BA Police Officer Calls Bever Home Bloodiest Scene He's Ever Been To
The Frontier: Testimony: Bever brothers ordered arsenal online, attacked family to launch killing spree
The Guardian: Broken Arrow police scour social media for clues to family stabbings motive
Tulsa World: Broken Arrow city officials dedicate Reflection Park after Bever killings
Tulsa World: Broken Arrow killings: Not guilty plea entered for brothers accused of stabbing family
Tulsa World: Family killings maybe on video
Tulsa World: Photos from Michael Bever’s jailhouse notebook among murder trial evidence released Friday
Tulsa World: Robert Bever attempted to hang himself in Tulsa jail cell
Tulsa World: Seven Years Ago: Five members of Bever family murdered in Broken Arrow
Tulsa World: Stigmatized' house remains empty one year after Bever family massacre in Broken Arrow

27-year-old Sasha Krause had her whole life ahead of her. She’d already made her parents incredibly proud of the young woman she’d become and they were eager to see how her life would unfold after moving away from home.

And although Sasha was living in an entirely different state, her parents felt their daughter was safe, living in a peaceful community of Mennonites.

There was no way Sasha’s family, the community she was living in, or for Sasha herself to know, a predator was on the lookout, for someone just like her.

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Research & Writing:
Evan Horne

Editing:
Aiden Wolf

Sources:
Law & Crime Network - Full Trial Video
People.com
Air Force Times
AZCentral
KXXV ABC 25
Sasha Krause Obituary
Oxygen
Fox 10 Phoenix

It was a cool fall morning in Medford, Oregon when police picked up three young runaways by the side of the road.

19-year-old Gavin MacFarlane, a high school dropout, his girlfriend, 15-year-old Ellen Friar, and their mutual friend 22-year-old, Russell Pierce Jones II, a young man with a criminal record and a history of mental illness.

From the back of the police cruiser, Russell made cryptic comments about being the couple’s “protector.” Ellen and Gavin claimed they’d run away because Ellen’s parents disapproved of their age difference; back at home, Ellen’s younger sisters had a very different story to tell.

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Research & Writing:
Matt Snell

Editing:
Aiden Wolf

Sources:
Circle Youth Ministries (Official Website)
Facebook: April 7, 2016 post by Medford Police re: Det. Stephanie Smith
Facebook: Ellen Friar personal profile
Facebook: Gavin MacFarlane personal profile
Facebook: Mike Smith (Russell Jones) personal profile
KOBI-TV NBC5 Medford: Final co-conspirator sentenced in Aaron Friar murder case
KOBI-TV NBC5 Medford: Medford murder investigation continues
KOBI-TV NBC5 Medford: Medford police investigating possible homicide
KOBI-TV NBC5 Medford: “Nothing will bring him back,” Murder victim’s sister pleads for trial to begin 4 years after his violent death
KTVL: Friends remember Aaron Friar after his death
KTVL: Homicide investigation underway in Medford
Mail Tribune: Man admits to beating girlfriend's father to death
Mail Tribune: Man sentenced in connection with beating death
Mail Tribune: Police say daughter conspired with boyfriend in killing
Wikipedia: Medford, Oregon 
Youth Symphony of Southern Oregon: Spring 2016 Concert Series
YouTube: Ellen Friar's full statement at her sentencing hearing
YouTube: Friend of accused Aaron Friar killer speaks out
YouTube: Medford teenager sentenced in plot to murder father
YouTube: Explore with Us—The Craziest Interrogation You’ll Ever See

Leon Benson spent more than half of his life, a total of 24 years, in an Indiana state prison for a murder he didn't commit. Despite the lack of physical evidence and a questionable eyewitness identification, he was convicted. But new realities start to come to light when attorney Lara Bazelon takes up his case and is determined to secure Benson's release. Season three of Suspect, co-produced by Campside Media and Wondery, delves into the flaws in the criminal justice system that led to Benson's wrongful conviction for the 1998 shooting of Kasey Schoen in Indianapolis. The investigation aims to uncover the truth about who really committed the crime and why the eyewitness testimony that led to Benson's conviction was so shaky. Host Matthew Shaer joins co-producer and writer Bazelon to take a deep dive into the nature of memory and how it can be fallible and result in an innocent man's life being wasted, while the real perpetrator remains unpunished. As the investigation unfolds, will Bazelon and her team gather enough evidence to free Benson? And what will happen to Schoen’s real killer? Listen to Suspect: Five Shots in the Dark early and ad-free on Wondery Plus. Find Wondery Plus in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts: https://wondery.app.link/SuspectS3_MOM

On April 13th, 2013, a devastating crime sent shockwaves through the picturesque valley of Yakima, nestled in the central part of Washington State. Desiree Sunford, a beloved art teacher, had been found murdered in her own home.

As the investigation unfolded, secrets emerged, casting suspicion on those closest to her.

But just when the case seemed to have reached a dead end, a remarkable turn of events unfolded. A startling tip revealing a suspect that had flown completely under the radar.

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Featured Podcast:
Morbidology - https://morbidology.com 

Research & Writing:
Ellie Hayes

Editing:
Aiden Wolf

Sources:
The Murder of Desiree Sunford
Three-way Relationship Leads To Murder Of Wife | by Jules
Marty Grismer Interrogation
Crime Watch Daily
Paige Blades Interview
Scott Sunford Interview
Youtube - True Crime Daily 
Youtube - A&E
Kayschapel #1
Kayschapel #2

52-year-old Rick Post was bound to a chair, inside the shower stall of an abandoned house. His mouth was duct-taped shut. Even if he could scream, no one would hear him.

His abductors paced back and forth flashing their instruments of torture. He’d been in this Tijuana dungeon for five days, subjected to relentless rounds of violent beatings. They’d also done a number on his fingers with a set of pliers.

You’ll hear about jealousy, vengeance, tainted love, and paranoia. A story that veers wildly to the edge of believability.....and then some.

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Special Thanks:
Former FBI Special Agent Jeff Thurman
Jonathan Jarry - https://www.bodyofevidence.ca 

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Research & Writing:
Sherri Smith

Editing:
Aiden Wolf

Sources:
LA Times Woman Gets Life Term for Kidnap-Torture Case
LA Times Man Arrested in Killings of 2 U.S. Citizens
United States v. Iribe (2021)
United States v. Iribe (2009)
Trial Memo
60 Minutes
CI Reader Volume III 
The San Diego Reader