Fair Game

Leah and Mike welcome back Julian Wain, who appeared with his wife Katherine in Episode 49. This time they discuss the Delphian schools -- Julian both attended and taught there. These, like other "Applied Scholastics" schools use Hubbard "technology" to indoctrinate kids and act as recruitment pools for the Sea Org, despite the public claims they make.

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 In this episode Leah and Mike talk to their old friend Aaron Smith-Levin about a wide variety of topics, including the status of Goliath the SP dog, but focus on his announcement that he is running to be elected to the Clearwater City Council and the activities of the Aftermath Foundation.

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A special edition of Listener Questions. Leah and Mike recorded this together in LA. As usual, they cover a lot of ground from why any OT would wear glasses and a question about Tom Cruise's bravery to High Crimes and the traits of an SP. Mike even has an answer that shocked Leah about something Hubbard claimed about himself.

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Leah and Mike talk with Nicole Norton and Becky Lovell , whistleblowers exposing the abuses of the RA MA Institute for Applied Yogic Science and Technology and its leader Guru Jagat (Katie Griggs). The stories of abuse, money motivation and a culture of worship of the guru are reminiscent of scientology and so many other high control organizations.

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Leah and Mike interview Gary "Jackson" Morehead, the former head of security at the confidential scientology headquarters near Hemet in Riverside County California. They cover the efforts taken to prevent Sea Org members from leaving, both physical and mental, what the "Blow Drill" consists of, what a "Life History" is and plenty more.

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Leah and Mike do a deep dive into scientology finances and fundraising with Mat Pesch. Mat was formerly in charge of the money-making and money control divisions at the Flag Land Base -- the single largest source of revenue for scientology on earth. Mat's no nonsense explanations of the inner-workings of the scientology business machine are at times humorous, but always horrifying. 

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Leah and Mike talk with Ian Rafalko and Dylan Follo.  Ian became an internet sensation when he posted a TikTok video about his father, scientologist chiropractor Eric Berg. Both were recently staff in scientology "ideal" orgs -- their experiences are pretty shocking. Ian's family has been torn apart and his wife chose scientology over him.

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Leah and Mike do a deep dive into the Sea Organization with Hana Whitfield, one of the first Sea Org members. Hana joined L. Ron Hubbard in Las Palmas in 1967, and went on to Captain various Sea Org ships and bases. We cover the early years of the formation of the SO, her recollections of Hubbard, his "Mission Into Time" and much more.

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Leah and Mike take on more listener questions: Who does the Fair Gaming? What is CCHR? How scientology views the disabled? What PTSness is. Who was the Duke of Chug? Scientology's sense of humor... and much more. Leah and Mike even act out what happens in an auditing session. 

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Leah and Mike are joined by Leah's mother, Vicki, to discuss the OT levels. Vicki achieved the highest level of scientology auditing, OT VIII. They discuss the earlier OT levels and their experiences on them and then Vicki's recollections of OT VIII and how underwhelming it was.

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