A Small Voice: Conversations With Photographers

Lottie Davies was born in Guildford, UK, in 1971. She grew up in Surrey and was educated in Alton and Godalming. After a degree in philosophy at St Andrews University in Scotland, she moved back to England to pursue a career in photography. She is currently based in Cornwall in the south west of England.

Lotties’ unique style has been employed in a variety of contexts, including newspapers, glossy magazines, books and advertising. In recent years she has developed her practice to employ moving image, audio, text and interactive installation. This mixed media approach is crystallised in her long-term project Quinn (2014-2020).  Her work has garnered international acclaim with the image Quints, which won First Prize at the Taylor Wessing Photographic Portrait Awards 2008 at the National Portrait Gallery in London, with Viola As Twins, which won the Photographic Art Award, Arte Laguna Prize in Venice in 2011, and her collaboration on Dreams of Your Life with Hide & Seek/Film 4.0 which was BAFTA-nominated in 2012.

Lottie’s work is concerned with stories and personal histories, the tales and myths we use to structure our lives. She takes inspiration from classical and modern painting, cinema and theatre as well as the imaginary worlds of literature. She employs a deliberate reworking of our visual vocabulary, playing on our notions of nostalgia and visual conventions with the intention of evoking a sense of recognition and narrative. Sandy Nairne, former director of the National Portrait Gallery in London, described Davies’ work as “brilliantly imaginative”.

On episode 156, Lottie discusses, among other things:

• Her relocation from London to Cornwall
• current project, Quinn
• Why she sets her work in the past
• The benefits of using an actor to represent her character, Quinn
• How to acquire a baby for a shoot
• Why her mother was born in a bucket
• On photographers not being considered artists
• Her column for Professional Photographer
• ‘Photobook Fails’
• The six phases of the creative process
• The Empathy Museum portraits
• Memories and Nightmares

Referenced:

• Laura Noble
• Samuel J Weir
• Forest School Camps
• Matt Harris
• Gordon MacDonald
• Craig Easton
• Dean Pavitt
• Paul Samson
• Gary Rhodes

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“‘It’s not painting is it? You just press a button.’ Yes, all I do is press a fucking button. You numpty!”

Matthew Genitempo is an American photographer and book publisher currently living and making work in Marfa, Texas. He received his MFA in photography from the University of Hartford. Matthew was selected as one of PDN’s 30 Emerging Photographers and received the LensCulture Emerging Photographer Award. His first book, Jasper, was chosen for the Hariban Juror’s Choice Award and short-listed for the 2018 Paris Photo/Aperture Foundation First Photo Book Prize.

Bryan Schutmaat  is an American photographer based in Austin, Texas whose work has been widely exhibited and published. He has won numerous awards, including a John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Fellowship, the Aperture Portfolio Prize, and an Aaron Siskind Fellowship. Bryan’s prints are held in many collections, such as Baltimore Museum of Art, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, Pier 24  Photography, and San Francisco Museum of Modern Art. 

Together, Matthew and Bryan co-founded and now run the Texas-based independent art book publisher, Trespasser.

On episode 155, Matthew and Bryan answer the some of the following questions:

• Can you pass on one or two useful tips when it comes to editing and sequencing images for a book? Is there something you can say about the decision making process?
• When you begin a project, are you thinking about how it will end up - a book, exhibition etc? Does this influence your practice during the shooting phase?
• When you feel creatively exhausted or uninspired or blocked what do you do to get yourself moving forward again?
• What else, outside of photographery, are you passionate about? Do you have any other obsessions?
• Do you rely on a number of distinct income streams to make a living, and if so how is your 'income pie chart' made up?
• What is the most exciting photobook (or photographer) you've come across in the last year or so?
• What's your favourite photobook, and why? Or is there a photobook that was particularly influential?
• Where do you see the market for photo books heading in the next few years?
• Which photographer's work has been most influential to you?
• What advice should young photographers ignore? Are there recommendations you hear a lot that you totally disagree with?
• How do you fund a project you are going to publish? Does the author have to contribute towards the costs?
• What is the best fund raising strategy for a photo book?
• What are some key things to be aware of when contacting a publisher. Any Do's and Dont’s?
• Any suggestions for putting together a book proposal?
• How do you choose the projects you are going to publish?
• Where do you see the market for photo books heading in the next few years?

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Craig Easton’s work is deeply rooted in the documentary tradition. He shoots long-term documentary projects exploring issues around social policy, identity and a sense of place. Known for his intimate portraits and expansive landscapes, his work regularly combines these elements with reportage approaches to storytelling, often working collaboratively with others to incorporate words, pictures and audio in a research-based practice that weaves a narrative between contemporary experience and history.

Craig has made work about women working in the UK fish processing industry (Fisherwomen); about the inter-generational nature of poverty and economic hardship in Northern England (Thatchers Children); about social deprivation, housing, unemployment and immigration in Blackburn; and about how the situation in which young people throughout the UK live, influences their aspirations.

A passionate believer in working collaboratively with others, Craig conceived and led the critically acclaimed SIXTEEN project with sixteen leading photographers exploring the hopes, ambitions and fears of sixteen-year-olds all around the UK. This Arts Council funded project was exhibited in over 20 exhibitions throughout 2019/2020 culminating in three simultaneous shows in London.

Craig is a regular visiting lecturer at universities and runs workshops both in the UK and internationally.

In addition to his personal documentary and art projects, he continues to shoot for editorial & advertising clients worldwide including The National Health Service, Visit Britain, Land Rover, Heathrow Airport, Wagamama, Mazda and John Lewis.

Craig was recently named as Photographer of The Year 2021 in the annual Sony World Photography Awards for his project Bank Top, shot in Blackburn in the north of England.

On episode 154, Craig discusses, among other things:

• His recent Sony Awards win
• The winning project, Bank Top
• Large format film
• His early years on The Independent newspaper
• Thatchers Children
• Fisherwomen
• Commissioned work
• SIXTEEN

Referenced:

• Walker Evans
• Dorothea Lange
• Lewis Hine
• Winslow Homer
• Hill And Adamson
• Robert Moyes Adam
• Anne Braybon
• Lottie Davies
• Jillian Edelstein
• Stuart Freedman
• Kalpesh Lathigra
• Roy Mehta
• Simon Roberts

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“As with all documentary photography - stuff that’s worthwhile - it just takes time. It’s a function of time. Go and spend some time there. I didn’t take pictures for ages and ages. I was in the street talking to people…”

Ron Jude is an American photographer and educator, born in Los Angeles in 1965 and raised in rural Idaho. He lives and works in Eugene, Oregon, where he teaches photography as a professor of art at the University of Oregon. His recent work explores the relationship between place, memory, and narrative through multiple approaches ranging from the use of appropriated images to photographs that echo traditional documentary methodologies.

Ron earned a BFA in studio art from Boise State University in 1988, and an MFA from Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge in 1992. His photographs have been widely exhibited nationally and internationally and are held in the permanent collections of the George Eastman House, Rochester, NY; the J. Paul Getty Museum, Los Angeles; the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston; and the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, among others.

Ron is the author of ten books, including Emmett (2010); Lick Creek Line (2012); Lago (2015); and, most recently, 12Hz. He has received grants or awards from Light Work; San Francisco Camerawork; the Aaron Siskind Foundation; and the Friends of Photography and was the recipient of a John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation Fellowship in 2019. He is represented by Gallery Luisotti in Santa Monica and Robert Morat Galerie in Berlin.

Ron lives in Eugene with fellow photographer Danielle Mericle and their son Charley.

On episode 153, Ron discusses, among other things:

• Why he switched to digital for 12Hz
• Not wanting to romanticise the landscape
• Feeling like it was a risk
• Not intending to make a book and then actually making a book
• His interest in incorporating sound
• Lago and other books
• How working with images that weren’t his taught him a lot about the book making process
• Lick Creek Line
• Why he doesn’t photograph people
• Nausea and the inherent flaws in the education system
• Why metaphor should be deployed with caution

Referenced:

• Joshua Bonnetta
• Mike Kelley
• Roe Ethridge
• Danielle Mericle

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“To some degree it’s just practice. It’s like playing an instrument - you practice, and if you don’t practice you get rusty. And then you have to start all over again.”

American photographer Christian Patterson was born in Wisconsin and lives in New York City. His conceptually grounded, narratively driven, visually layered work has been described as novelistic, subjective documentary of the historical past, and often deals with themes of the archive, authorship, memory, place and time. It includes photographs, drawings, paintings, objects, video and sound.

Christian moved from Brooklyn, New York to Memphis, Tennessee in 2002 to seek out his photographic hero William Eggleston. They became friends and Christian ended up working for him at the William Eggleston Trust, under the stewardship of William’s son, Winston.

In 2005, Christian completed his first project, Sound Affects, a collection of photographs that explore Memphis utilizing light and color as visual analogues to sound and music. In 2008, Sound Affects was published as a book by Edition Kaune, Sudendorf (Cologne). Christian’s second monograph the critically-acclaimed Redheaded Peckerwood was published by MACK in 2011 and was almost universally lauded as one of the best books of the year by numerous noted international photography critics. It was nominated for the 2012 Kraszna-Krausz Book Award and won the prestigious 2012 Recontres d’Arles Author Book Award. The book featured in The Photobook: A History, Volume 3, co-edited by Gerry Badger and Martin Parr. 

Christian’s third book, Bottom of the Lake was published in 2015. He is a Guggenheim Fellow (2013) and winner of the Grand Prix Images Vevey (2015). His work is in the collections of the National Gallery of Art, Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) and J. Paul Getty Museum among others. Christian has lectured, mentored and taught widely and is represented by Robert Morat Galerie, Berlin.

On episode 152, Christian discusses, among other things:

• His current project, Gong Co. and how it came about.
• Discovering William Eggleston during his early years in New York.
• Going down to Memphis to meet him and ending up working with him.
• Addressing some of the myths and misconception around Eggleston.
• Reheaded Peckerwood - Badlands as an influence.
• Going to Nebraska where the original events occurred.
• The influence and success of the book.

Referenced:

• William Eggleston
• Terence Malick
• Stephen Shore
• David Bowie

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“You’re expressing yourself and you’re taking part in the larger conversation that’s happening in your field. I wanted to take part in the conversation and I wanted to feel like I was influencing, shaping or expanding that conversation in a way.”

Tania Franco Klein (b. 1990) started photography while gaining a BA in Architecture in her home town of Mexico City, which led her to pursue a Masters degree in Photography at the University of the Arts, London.

Her work is highly influenced by a fascination with social behavior and contemporary concerns such as leisure, consumption, media overstimulation, emotional disconnection, the obsession with eternal youth, the American dream in the Western world and the psychological impact of these concerns on everyday life.

Tania’s work has been reviewed and featured internationally in publications such as ARTFORUM, L.A Times, I-D Magazine, The Guardian, The Paris Review, Aperture Foundation, and The British Journal of Photography, and she has been commissioned by The New York Times, The New Yorker, FT weekend, New York Magazine, Vogue and Dior, among others.

Tania has been exhibited widely both in solo and group shows across Europe, the USA, and Mexico, including at Photo London, the Thessaloniki Museum of Photography and the Aperture Gallery in New York City. Her latest exhibition, Proceed To The Route , which showcased a wide selection of her latest work, was presented by ROSEGALLERY and received enthusiastic reviews both in Mexico City (2019) and Los Angeles (2020).

She was recently selected by W Mag as one of 9 photographers to follow and has won Sony World Photography Awards in two consecutive years, The Lensculture Exposure Awards,  Lensculture Storytelling Awards, and the Photo London Artproof Schliemann Award as the best emerging artist during the Photo London fair in 2018. Her first publication Positive Disintegration (2019) was nominated for the Paris Photo Aperture Foundation First Book Award. 

On episode 151, Tania discusses, among other things:

• The nomadic lifestyle
• Why she recreated her old room in her grandmother’s house in her studio
• The psychology of capitalism
• Her book, Positive Disintegtration
• The role of technology in the sense of inadequacy
• How the process of doing self portraits came about
• Her use of colour
• Her approach to exhibition design
• Bookmaking workshops - pros and cons
• The tendency of some men to dispense advice to female artists
• Current project, Proceed To The Route
• Selling prints
• Why she loves doing commissions

Referenced:

• Byung-Chul Han
• Kazimierz Dąbrowski

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“With photography you have the opportunity to be more absurd and to still make sense and connect with people throughout these bizarre events happening, and that’s what makes it more rich.”

Alejandro Cartagena was born in the Dominican Republic in 1977 and lives and works in Monterrey, Mexico. His projects employ landscape and portraiture as a means to examine social, urban and environmental issues. Alejandro’s work has been exhibited internationally in more than 50 group and individual exhibitions in spaces including the Cartier foundation in Paris and the CCCB in Barcelona, and his work is in the collections of several prestigious museums including the San Francisco MOMA, The J. Paul Getty Museum and The Museum of Contemporary Photography in Chicago, among others.

Alejandro is a self-publisher and co-editor and has created several award wining titles including A Small Guide to Home Ownership, The Velvet Cell 2020, Carpoolers, Self-published with support of FONCA Grant, 2014, Suburbia Mexicana, Daylight/ Photolucida 2010. Some of his books are in the Yale University Library, the Tate Britain, and the 10×10 Photobooks/MFH Houston book collections among others.

Alejandro has received several awards including the international Photolucida Critical Mass Book Award, the Street Photography Award at the London Photo Festival, the Lente Latino Award in Chile, the Premio IILA-FotoGrafia Award in Rome and the Salon de la Fotografia of Fototeca de Nuevo Leon in Mexico among others. His work has been published internationally in magazines and newspapers such as Newsweek, Nowness, Domus, the Financial Times, The New York Times, Le Monde, Stern, PDN, The New Yorker, and Wallpaper among others.

On episode 150, Alejandro discusses, among other things:

• How divorce led him to Stoicism
• Parenthood being the ‘most difficult thing you can bear’.
• Living in multiple paradigms
• His current excitement over poetry
• Why he started ‘vandalising’ archive images
• Learning about photography through working in an archive
• Being an outsider as a kid
• His new book A Small Guide to Home Ownership
• Wanting to make some books that are pop songs, not symphonies

Referenced:

• Depeche Mode, Blashphemous Rumours
• Guillermo Kahlo
• Eugenio Espino Barros

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“There’s nothing new about documentary photography, you just take pictures of what’s there, you know, but the opportunity of making it poetic or lyrical is to confront ideas that weren’t meant to be seen with each other. And that’s what’s exciting for me sometimes.”

Influential English photographer Paul Graham has published three survey monographs, along with 17 other publications. 

In 1981, he completed his first body of work, A1 - The Great North Road, which he later self-published as a book, re-printed in 2020 by Mack. The series of colour photographs captured life along England’s ageing arterial road, the A1, from the city of London to Edinburgh’s main post office. The pioneering series went on to receive critical acclaim, and was followed by Beyond Caring, a visual record of unemployment in Britain under Margaret Thatcher, and Troubled Land, which depicted landscapes in Northern Ireland during the years of the Troubles. Paul’s use of colour film in the early 1980s, at a time when British photography was dominated by traditional black-and-white social documentary, had a revolutionising effect on the genre.

Paul has since gone on to produce over 12 further bodies of work, incuding New Europe, hailed in Martin Parr and Gerry Badger’s influential reference The Photobook: A History as “a key work of the new European photography”, and perhaps his most celebrated series, the twelve-volume collection entitled A Shimmer of Possibility, created in collaboration with steidlMACK, which summarizes Paul's interest in calling attention to overlooked activities or places. The book won the 2011 Paris Photo Book Prize for the most important photography book published in the past 15 years. The work was included as part of a 2015 survey of Paul’s trilogy of series’ from America, entitiled The Whiteness of the Whale, which was exhibited at the High Museum of Art in Atlanta.

Paul’s work has been the subject of more than eighty international solo exhibitions and has been shown in the Italian Pavilion of the 49th Venice Biennale, Switzerland's national Fotomuseum Winterthur and at New York City's Museum of Modern Art. He was included in Tate's Cruel and Tender survey exhibition of 20th century photography, and a European mid career survey exhibition at Museum Folkwang, Essen, which toured to the Deichtorhallen, Germany, and Whitechapel Gallery, London. 

Paul has been awarded the Deutsche Börse Photography Prize, the Hasselblad Award, the W. Eugene Smith Grant, received a Guggenheim Fellowship and the Royal Photographic Society Award. In the early 2000s he  moved to New York City where he settled and still lives with his partner and their son.

On episode 149, Paul discusses, among other things:

• But, Still It Turns, the current ICP show he curated, with a tie-in book published by Mack.)
• Having shows shut down due to Covid.
• Discovering photography.
• His first book project, A1 - The Great North Road.
• The radical nature of shooting colour at the time.
• The ‘dance with the world’, as the highest calling of the medium.
• Beyond Caring and Troubled Land.
• New Europe.
• A Shimmer of Possibility.
• His optimism for photography’s future.

Referenced:

• William Eggleston
• The Americans (Robert Frank)
• Garry Winogrand
• Stephen Shore
• Lisette Model
• Cindy Sherman
• Jeff Wall
• Thomas Demand
• Gregory Crewsdon
• Galileo Galilei
• Lee Friedlander
• Paul Strand
• Walker Evans
• Diane Arbus
• Robert Adams
• Paul Hill
• Ray Moore
• Martin Parr
• Anna Fox
• Paul Reas
• Richard Billingham
• Nick Waplington
• Michael Schmidt
• Lewis Baltz
• John Gossage
• Julian Germain
• Bill Owens

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“You don’t need to be a photographer seeking out the spectacular, the amazing prize-winning moments. There is a power to the every day and an insight can be gained through gently looking at it.”

David Yarrow was born in 1966 into the Scottish Yarrow shipbuilding dynasty - founded in 1865 by his grandfather, Sir Alfred Yarrow, who had come from humble origins in East London.  

David took up photography at an early age and as a 20-year-old university undergraduate found himself working as a photographer for The Times on the pitch at the 1986 World Cup Final in Mexico City. On that day, David took the famous picture of Diego Maradona holding the trophy and as a result was subsequently asked to cover the 1988 Winter Olympics, among other events. 

On his return, David was met with two job offers at the same salary. One was from Getty Images and the other from Nat West bank. To the enormous surprise of the people at Getty, but to the profound delight of his parents, he chose the latter, which led to a successful and lucrative finance career on Wall Street and ultimately building a billion dollar hedge fund. It wasn’t until the mid 2000s, in the aftermath of divorce and the financial crash that David returned to photography.

David’s distinctive and immersive black and white images of life on earth have earned him an ever growing following amongst art collectors. His huge works, produced in Los Angeles, are on display in leading galleries and museums across Europe and North America and he is now recognised as one of the best selling fine art photographers in the world with limited edition prints regularly selling for tens of thousands of pounds at auction.

In September 2019, Rizzoli published David’s second book with foreword was written by global NFL star Tom Brady and an afterword written by American cultural icon Cindy Crawford. All royalties from this book will be donated to conservation charities Tusk, in the UK and WildAid, in the US.

David’s position in the industry has been rewarded with a wide range of advisory and ambassadorial roles and in the spring of 2020, David was appointed a Global Ambassador for Best Buddies – one of America’s most established children’s charities.

In 2018 and 2019 David’s work raised over $4.5m for philanthropic and conservation organisations. At Art Miami in December 2019, his photograph The Wolves of Wall Street broke new records. One print, signed by Leonardo DiCaprio and Martin Scorsese, featuring the real Wolf of Wall Street – Jordan Belfort – sold for $200,000. The proceeds went to conservation NGOs supported by DiCaprio.

At the start of 2020, David was in Australia documenting the devastating bush fires that have destroyed communities, wildlife and wildlands. Using the striking and poignant images that he captured of the effects of the fire, Yarrow launched the Koala Comeback Campaign to support the recovery efforts in Australia. As of early June, the campaign has raised $1.4m. In April, during the Covid-19 pandemic, David joined the Art For Heroes campaign, to raise money for the NHS. He released a print – Our Pride – with all proceeds going to HEROES. For every print purchased, David donated an Our Pride print to an NHS worker. The campaign has surpassed its original target of £1m.

On episode 148, David discusses, among other things:

• Working through the Covid crisis.
• Monetization and the moment ‘the penny dropped’ with a picture of a shark.
• Lessons learned from Breaking Bad.
• Avoiding ‘vertical integration’ and the need for FIGJAM.
• Why it’s important to keep edition sizes small.
• Lessons learned from his mum (a sculptor).
• America by definition being a country of entrepreneurs.
• The twin filters of authenticity and commerciality.
• The Catch-22 of getting gallery representation.
• How his lowest point resulted in the picture that changed everything, with the help of two ladders.
• When you know you have a good image.
• How the idea of bringing animals and people together in the same frame came by accident.
• Being exhausted by some areas of ‘wokery’.

Referenced:

• Willie Nelson
• Tom Brady
• Ansel Adams
• Peter Lik
• Andy Warhol
• Georgio Armani
• Tom Ford
• Henri Matisse
• Terry O’Neil
• Nick Brandt
• Cara Delevigne
• Chris Hemsworth
• Cindy Crawford
• Leonardo DiCaprio
• Peter Beard
• Richard Avedon 
• Tim Ferriss

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“In 2021, whatever you do, if you’re a creative in particular, I don’t think you’re excused from being a business person.”

Jason Esekenazi is a photographer, curator and co-founder of the photobook publishing community Red Hook Editions. He lives in Queens, New York, where he grew up and went to university, taking a degree in psychology and American literature at Queens College. 

The fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 led Jason out of New York into the wider world and after trips to Germany and Romania he travelled to Russia in 1991, just before the August coup that marked the end of the Soviet Union. So began over a decade of return trips to the region which eventually culminated in Jason’s first book, Wonderland: A Fairy Tale of the Soviet Monolith, which won Best Photography Book in Pictures of the Year International in 2008. Using the fairy tale as a framework, Jason took the title of his book from Alice in Wonderland, and likens the breakup of the Soviet Union to the end of childhood. Wonderland ended up being the first in a trilogy of books spanning 30 years worth of work. Each volume consists of three sections  numbered one to nine and the numbering of the images is consecutive across the whole trilogy. The second book was Black Garden, shot within the vast geographical and mythical world known to ancient Greece from the Mediterranean to the Caucasus, including Turkey, Greece, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, Egypt, Libya, and Sicily, as well as New York City. The book uses Greek mythology as its framework and concentrates on three main themes: subjugation of women, domination over the animal kingdom, and self-destruction through war. The final book in the trilogy, published simultaneousluy with Black Garden in 2019, is Departure Lounge, which investigates how we depart from reality, from friends, and from ourselves and completes the cycle by revisiting the territory and some of the characters of the first book, drawing on Jason’s extensive archive from his decade long travels through Russia.

Jason has received numerous awards including a Guggenheim Fellowship, The Dorothea Lange/Paul Taylor Prize, and The Alicia Patterson Foundation Grant. His work has appeared in many magazines including Time, Newsweek and The New York Times. In 2004 Jason In 2004 he received a Fulbright Scholarship to return to Russia to make a series of large format color portraits called Title Nation with Russian colleague Valeri Nistratov which was published in 2010. In 2004 -2005 Jason organized a Kids with Cameras workshop in the old city of Jerusalem, teaching photography to Arab Muslims and Jewish children, which toured many U.S. cities.

For much of 2008 and 2009 Jason took a job as a security guard at the Metropolitan Museum of Art to earn some money and to obtain health insurance. He created and co-edited a new independent magazine called SW!PE which showcased the artwork of museum guards. While assigned to the museum’s Robert Frank exhibition Looking In, Jason also began the creation of the book The Americans List: By the Glow of the Jukebox, which asks over 250 photographers to name and talk abouit their favourite photograph from Frank’s seminal work, The Americans.

Jason was also the International Curator/ Creative Director for the Bursa Photo Fest in Turkey for its first 2 years and a co-founder and editor of  DOG FOOD, a newspaper blending Cynic Philosophy and Photography.

On episode 147, Jason discusses, among other things:

• Why he found the idea of working in the USA scarier than in a far flung war zone.
• Waiting for chance to give you something.
• The inciting incident: the Berlin Wall coming down.
• Learning how to see things… and to make book dummies.
• Russians and the fairy tale - Wonderland: A Fairy Tale of the Soviet Monolith.
• Why a lot of it is play.
• Keeping things open ended.
• Black Garden and Departure Lounge.
• What he’s thinking about now. 
• The Americans List: By the Glow of the Jukebox.

Referenced:

• Robert Frank
• Garry Winongrand
• Bela Tarr
• Sabiha Çimen

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“A lot of it is playing. It’s play. Play with the images, play with the notes, play with the strings on your guitar - tune one to a lower D and see how that works. You just sort of play and that’s how you create things.”