The Murder In My Family

Episode 138 Robert 'Robbie' Lamp

In 1981, 27 year old Robert Lamp, or Robbie as he went by seemed to have a lot of things going for him. He was a young husband and father, and had recently purchased a home in a great neighborhood in Pennsylvania. Robbie was a successful manager of a Grand Union Super Market; in fact, he has done such a great job, that the company asked him if he'd work at their store in Hillandale, Silver Spring, MD- a store that was in need of a good manager to help run it. It was a good opportunity for Robbie, but since he has just settled his family in Pennsylvania, he decided that he would travel back and forth from Pennsylvania to Maryland instead of uproot his family.

By March, 1981, Robbie had settled in to his position at the new store alongside his co-workers, but a violent robbery of a Safeway store just down the street in which a store manager was shot, was on Robbie's mind. He requested security guards from corporate for the store, but his request was denied. Robbie instead had to rely on his training which taught him that in the event of a robbery, to fully cooperate and hand over the money in order to keep himself, his employees, and customers safe. Unfortunately, on March 27th of that year, Robbie's Grand Union store was robbed, and despite cooperating fully with the robbers, Robbie was shot to death as he lay helpless on the floor alongside store employees and customers. His killers fled from the store and escaped, leaving Robbie's family to deal with the aftermath.

Later that year, Police connected two men to not only Robbie's murder, but to the earlier Safeway shooting, and other crimes. Arrested were 22 year old LeRoy Jenkins and 25 year old Jerome Dudley. Robbie's family assumed that justice would be done and Robbie's killers would be in prison for the rest of their lives. Years later, they were shocked to find out that the suspects in Robbie's murder had never even been indicted for murder in Robbie's case, and although one of the two suspects had died, the other was still alive and was a free man. Robbie's brother Olen Lamp set out to get to the bottom of what happened. He sought out and teamed up with Tom Ponton, who was a co-worker of Robbie's and was on the floor next to Robbie when he was killed. Together, Olen and Tom filed FOIA requests, and sought out the help of reporter Paul Wagner of NBCNews4 out of Washington DC in an effort to shine a brighter light on just what happened and how suspects in Robbie's murder case were able to somehow slip through the cracks. To date, Robbie's murder case remains officially unsolved, and noone has been prosecuted for it.

In this episode, you'll hear from both Robbie's brother Olen who discusses how his brother's murder affected their family, and his efforts to get justice. You'll also hear from Tom Ponton, Robbie's co-worker who walks us through the tragic events of that fateful night in March 1981, and how he came to team up with Olen to find out the truth.

If you have any information about the March, 1981 murder of Robert 'Robbie' Lamp in Silver Spring MD, please reach out to his brother Olen at the Facebook page he runs for the case, or to reporter Paul Wagner at NBCNews4

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20 year-old Kristie Gunderson Lee was a young wife, and new mom living in Pompano Beach, Florida in 1994. She was a friendly and popular hairdresser who was not known to have enemies, but on March 31st of that year, she died a violent death in her apartment. She was bludgeoned and strangled to death. Initially, it seemed like a burglary gone wrong, but police ruled that out and instead investigated the murder as a crime of passion. As in most cases involving a crime of passion, detectives looked closely at Kristie's husband Jeff Lee, but learned early on that he was at work when the murder happened and had an air tight alibi. Police quickly turned their suspicion to Kristie's in-laws, Kay and Joe Petralia, who had discovered Kristie's body and called 911. Their timeline of events didn't match up with witness statements in the case, and as police looked closer, they found that Kristie & Kay had been at odds with each other over the raising of Kristie & Jeff's son Zachary. They had heated arguments, and at least once, got into a physical altercation. Police asked the Petralias to take polygraphs, and they both refused. Eventually, the Petralias became the prime suspects in their daughter in law's murder, and even their son Jeff came to believe that they were responsible for Kristie's murder. But to date, no charges have ever been filed in relation to Kristie's murder.

Kristie's good friend Emily, who runs a Facebook page about Kristie's case, and has been advocating for her friend for 30 years, discusses Kristie's case in this episode.

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In this episode, we update 3 cases previously discussed on The Murder In My Family.

The case updates are for the following three cases; The 2017 Delphi Murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams from episode 6 and episode 38. The 1975 murder of Lindy Sue Biechler in Lancaster County PA in episode 19, and the 2016 murder of Devirrie Schiller in California City in episode 11. Additionally, Deverrie Schiller's mom Debi Fones has published a book about the case and her efforts to get justice for her daughter. You can find the book here.

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Episode 135 Thomas Clancy Sr.
Thomas Clancy Sr was a proud and decorated WW2 veteran who became a successful businessman in Dallas, Texas when he moved there with his large family in the 1960s. Thomas and his wife of 35 years divorced, and he found himself re-married a couple years later. But Thomas's second marriage appeared to be falling apart, and was on the verge of divorce. In November 1983, Thomas was also dealing with a very sick daughter who was hospitalized and not expected to pull through. He wanted to be by her side, and that's why his family became so worried after the 60 year old failed to show up at the hospital after a few days. They scrambled to call around and find him. They learned that his second wife had confronted him and a female co worker at a bar and that she had threatened to kill the co worker. When Thomas left the bar that night, he was never seen again. Just days later, Thomas Clancy Sr's Cadillac was located across from the bar he was last seen at by his son. His body was found inside the trunk. He had been shot to death. As some of Thomas's adult children tried to cope with what had happened, they soon were troubled by some of the things that Thomas's wife, and two of his sons had said and done during the time Thomas was missing and after his body was found. It wasn't just odd to them, but police also seemed to suspect someone close to Thomas had murdered him, and they looked closely at Thomas's inner circle, but despite police suspicion, no arrests have ever been made in the case, and it left a family suspicious of each other. Forty years later the case is still unsolved. Thomas's daughter Barbara still carries on the fight for justice for her father. She wants to know who murdered him and why. In this episode, she discusses not only her dad's terrible murder, but about the accomplished life he led.
If you have more information about the murder of Thomas Clancy Sr, contact Detective Christopher Evans by email at [email protected] or by phone at 214-671-4743. Please refer to case number 531390-P.
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Episode 134 Jesse Dempsey
41 Year old father of three, Jesse Dempsey was shot to death around 11pm as he drove about 70MPH along I-20 near Lithonia, in DeKalb County Georgia on October 25th, 2020. Jesse was in the passenger seat driving his girlfriend Kendra Vickery's White GMC Sierra Pickup when a single bullet blew out the back window, passed through the driver's headrest, and struck Jesse in the head. Kendra, who was in the passenger seat next to Jesse, initially thought that a tire had blown out. Jesse slammed on the brakes and came to a stop in the middle lane, and the truck was struck from behind by another driver, 39-year-old Marie Fleuristin. Kendra's truck wound up on the shoulder of the road, and Kendra called 911 as she tried to get out of the vehicle. Tragically, Marie Fleuristin, the driver of the vehicle that slammed into Kendra's truck, exited her vehicle and was struck and killed by a semi truck.
Jesse was barely alive and was rushed to the hospital, while Kendra was taken to the police station where police questioned her for hours before finally telling her that Jesse had died earlier that night from his injuries. Kendra felt like a suspect which was surprising to her since the evidence clearly pointed to a shooter outside of the truck firing the shot that killed Jesse.
Following Jesse's death, his family was left to wonder, was Jesse targeted by someone intending to kill him, or was he the victim of a random sniper. It turns out that Jesse was mixed up with some shady people, but it also came to light that other vehicles in that same stretch of highway have been shot at, Today, Jesse's case remains unsolved. In this episode, his girlfriend Kendra recounts the events of that tragic night, and shares her thoughts about the case.
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Episode 133 Ernestine Hurt
48 year old mother and grandmother Ernestine Hurt was stabbed to death as she walked from a night shift at work to catch a bus in Cincinnati Ohio. Usually her daughter or her husband would walk with her at night to make her feel safe. On this night however, she was alone and a killer struck.
It seemed like it could have been a mugging, but nothing was taken from Ernestine. As police took a closer look at her life, they found other avenues to go down, but no clear path towards any of them resulting in the case being solved. 40+ years later, the case remains at a standstill. Ernestine's granddaughter Mirya discusses the case in this episode, and her efforts to not let her Grandmother's case be forgotten.
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Episode 132 Jorge Luis Delgado Jr
23 year old Jorge Luis Delgado, known as "Spazz' or 'Georgie' to those who loved him was gunned down in New Haven, CT in April, 2022. Despite rumors and names swirling about his killer, or killers, there has not been an arrest yet. The lack of an arrest is agnozing for Jorge's loved ones, and they are worried that the killer, or killers may strike again, if they haven't already.
In this episode, Jorge's mom Jennifer discusses the frustration of not seeing an arrest and her worries that the lack of an arrest may lead to more violence.
If you have information about the murder of Jorge Luis Delgado Jr, please call the New Haven Police Department Investigative Services Division at 203-946-6304. Callers may remain anonymous or submit tips anonymously by calling 1-866-888-TIPS(8477), or texting “NHPD” plus the message to 274637 (CRIMES).
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Episode 131 Stephen Sloman
On October 13, 2022, gunfire erupted in Baltimore, MD. When the shooting stopped, 56 year old Stephen Sloman was dead, killed in a hail of bullets.
Stephen, a father of three, and a military veteran was down on his luck after a divorce. His career in the IT field had suffered, and he was battling addiction. Stephen was also depressed about the recent death of his mother who he was living with. There was a lot going on in Stephen's life, but not all of his last movements and actions can be accounted for as he had become estranged from family.
Why Stephen was in the city that night, who murdered him, and why all are unanswered questions to this point. There was no evidence of robbery. Police have been unable to locate any witnesses willing to give any information about what unfolded.
Stephen's family is not confident that his murder will be solved, especially given Baltimore has been overrun with violent crimes, most of it gun related. Stephen's sister Debra discusses his tragic case in this episode, and talks about the uphill battle in seeing the case solved and her brother's killer brought to justice.
Anyone with information is asked to call detectives at 410-396-2100.Anyone wishing to remain anonymous can call Metro Crime Stoppers at 1-866-7LOCKUP
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Episode 130 Catrina Mowrey
In June, 1985, 24 year old Kansas native Catherine 'Catrina' Mowrey was planning to travel from the Dallas, Texas area where she was living, back to Kansas to visit family. She never showed up.
On June 25th, her nude body was found in the trunk of a car in an area of Dallas known for its high crime rate. Catrina's body was wrapped in a sheet, and according to some reports, she had a belt wrapped around her neck. Due to decomposition, the medical examiner was not able to determine a cause of death, and termed it undetermined. Police investigating the case quickly concluded that Catrina had died of a drug overdose, but when no drugs were found in her system, shifted gears and theorized she had taken her own life. Later, they said she may have died of natural causes, and someone close to her got rid of her body. Police explored all kinds of theories except the one that seemed the most obvious; that Catrina was a homicide victim.
Investigators tracked the car Catrina was found in to a man she was in some sort of relationship with, possibly dating. He apparently had an alibi, and according to him, he didn't realize Catrina was even missing, and assumed she had gone back to Kansas with his car to visit family as she had planned to do. In Catrina's apartment, they found Catrina's suitcase which she had apparently packed to take with her to Kansas. They also found her glasses in the apartment. Catrina who was legally blind could not see very well without them and certainly could not drive.
It was reported that Catrina was involved in low level drug dealing, and several people she associated with had criminal records. Instead of looking closely at the people in Catrina's circle, they continued to avoid investigating her death as a homicide.
For the better part of 40 years, Catrina's case sat in limbo. During that time, tragedy struck the Mowry family again when one of Catrina's sisters was murdered in an unrelated case. Heartbroken, Catrina's last surviving sister, Deborah teamed up with her daughter Catrina to dig into the case and search for the truth. The younger Catrina was named after her aunt who she never got to meet in order to honor her memory. When Deborah passed away, it was up to her daughter Catrina to solve see her Aunt Catrina's case finally resolved. She began with petitioning Dallas police to re-open the investigation into Catrina's 1985 death, and her efforts paid off. In March, 2023, the case was re-opened, and hopefully, investigators can find the truth about the death of Catrina Mowry once and for all.
In this episode, Catrina's niece; her namesake, Catrina discusses her Aunt's case, and her efforts to see it solved.
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Episode 129 Colby Wilcher
In January, 2022,27 year-old father of 3 Colby Wilcher vanished under mysterious circumstances out of Holt, Florida. Colby's family was worried because it wasn't like Colby to drop from sight, and he was supposed to start a new job. Days turned into weeks without answers. During the time he was gone, there were suspicious posts and communications from Colby's phone and social media, and those closest to Colby wondered if it was really Colby who was doing the communicating.
On April 11, 2022, almost 3 months after he went missing, Colby's body was found by fisherman south of the Shoal River Bridge off Okaloosa County Road 393 near Dorcas. This location was several miles from where Colby was last seen. It was determined that Colby was the victim of a homicide and had been shot once in the head.
The news was devastating for Colby's family & friends. Now they knew where he was, but it only led to more questions. How did Colby wind up dead in the water, who killed him, and why?
In this episode, Colby's brother Michael discusses the loss of his brother and his fight to get justice for Colby.
Anyone with information on Wilcher is asked to call the OCSO at 850-651-7400 or contact Emerald Coast Crime Stoppers anonymously at 850-863-TIPS,
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