The Business of Dance

Olivia Alboher and Avery Gay offer an intimate look into their dance journeys, navigating through the challenges and triumphs of the industry. Olivia's early start in Broadway at 10 and her journey to creating dance content on TikTok gaining popularity and becoming a star. Avery started dancing in mommy class, then trained at the most prestigious ballet schools and competed on NBC’s World of Dance and So You Think You Can Dance.

As the conversation unfolds, insights into So You Think You Can Dance experience emerge, shedding light on the emotional toll of eliminations and the mental preparation required for such intense competitions. Both Olivia and Avery offer candid reflections on the highs and lows of their respective journeys, emphasizing the importance of resilience and self-belief in overcoming setbacks.

The episode also touches upon the subjectivity of dance judging, the impact of editing choices on contestants' portrayal, and the necessity of mental toughness in the entertainment industry. Through personal anecdotes and shared experiences, Olivia, Avery, and Menina provide valuable lessons on navigating the dance world with determination and grace.

Ultimately, the episode concludes with a message of encouragement and empowerment, urging listeners to pursue their dance dreams with unwavering dedication and a clear vision for the future.

Show notes:

• 06:57 - Dance career and friendship between two dancers.

• 13:22 - How two contestants formed a strong bond on SYTYCD despite not knowing each other well beforehand.

• 14:54 - Changes to SYTYCD, including new location and format.

• 19:46 - Living in a house during SYTYCD, with mixed emotions and drama.

• 22:12 - The challenges and experiences of competing on SYTYCD.

• 28:16 - Mental preparation for SYTYCD.

• 34:14 - SYTYCD elimination experiences and coping strategies.

• 36:55 - TV shows and their editing choices affecting dancers' portrayal.

• 41:17 - Lessons learned from SYTYCD

• 46:35 - Mental toughness, rejection, and growth in the entertainment industry.

• 1:00:00 - SYTYCD auditions and personal stories.

• 1:04:40 - Making the top 10 on SYTYCD.

• 1:09:25 - Pursuing a dance career with a vision board and goal setting.

  
  

Olivia´s Biography:

Olivia Alboher is a dancer, model, and social media star/influencer best known for her viral dance and flexibility trends on TikTok and Instagram where she holds a fanbase of over 2 million followers between the platforms.

Olivia started dancing at age 2 and a half, and secured her first professional broadway credit in Billy Eliot the Musical by age 10 and has been dancing professionally ever since.

Most currently, you can find Olivia on season 18 of So You Think You Can Dance on FOX and HULU.

Avery´s Biography:

Avery Gay is from Scottsdale, Az and began performing and dancing at the age of 4 and was quickly hooked on the feeling she got from performing for an audience.

She was featured dancing with her partner on the Qualifiers, The Duals and The Cut for NBC World of Dance. Prior to that, she was featured as the youngest dancer to dance on pointe for a prime time TV show, NBC’s Little Big Shots and Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance.

She has been fortunate to perform in more than 12 ballet galas worldwide. Allowing her to travel around the globe from Australia to Portugal. Notably she was honored to perform in the Stars of Today, Stars of Tomorrow Gala at the David H. Koch theater in New York after winning the gold medal for Classical Pas De Deux at YAGP Finals. In 2017, she was awarded The Dance Awards Junior Female Best Dancer.

This was Avery’s second Best Dancer Title, been featured in several magazines including Dance Spirit Magazine.

Avery will continue her training attending the University of Arizona.

Connect on Social Media with Olivia:

www.instagram.com/oliviaalboher/

https://www.tiktok.com/@oliviaalboher

Connect on Social Media with Avery:

https://www.instagram.com/averygayofficial

https://www.tiktok.com/@averygayofficial

Episode Summary:

Clifford McGhee shares his remarkable journey from a dancer with no formal training to performing with icons like Usher, Beyonce, Destiny’s Child, Janet Jackson, Missy Elliott, Genuwine and Will Smith. Despite facing challenges such as lack of family support and financial resources, McGhee's determination propelled him forward.

He recounts his own struggles in pursuing a dance career, including a 36-hour one way bus ride to LA in pursuit of his dreams. He emphasizes how relationships play a crucial role in the entertainment industry.

The episode delves into the highs and lows of the music industry, sharing stories of triumph and tribulation. From navigating record deals to facing rejection, McGhee and Fortunato offer valuable insights into resilience and self-care amidst industry pressures.

As the conversation progresses, topics such as dealing with setbacks, embracing second chances, and maintaining longevity in the dance industry are explored. McGhee stresses the importance of self-reflection, moral integrity, and personal growth.

The discussion also touches on the differences between dancing and choreography, the preparation involved in the Super Bowl halftime performance with Usher, and the intricacies of dance career paths.

In the end, listeners leave with words of encouragement and empowerment, highlighting the significance of self-love, authenticity, and perseverance in the pursuit of one's passion in the dance industry.

Show notes:

• 00:03 How the speaker started dancing and became a professional dancer despite no formal training.

• 07:24 The importance of relationships in the entertainment industry, with a focus on the speaker's personal experiences.

• 15:27 Music industry experiences and challenges.

• 21:18 Resilience, self-care, and giving oneself grace in the face of life's challenges.

• 24:35 Dealing with rejection and not getting excited until the job is done.

• 29:21 Dealing with setbacks and trusting the journey.

• 34:06 Embracing dance career at 39, with a second chance to perform at a high level.

• 38:40 Longevity in the dance industry with a focus on self-care and personal choices.

• 42:59 Overcoming height limitations in dance career.

• 47:56 The differences between dancing and choreography.

• 52:41 Turning down job offers, Super Bowl performances, and finding opportunities to shine.

• 57:14 Preparation for Super Bowl halftime show performances.

• 1:03:23 Dance career paths with industry professionals.

Biography:

Clifford McGhee, originally from St. Louis, Missouri, launched his dance career without formal training, relying on innate talent and determination. At just 17, he began dancing with Ginuwine, kickstarting collaborations with icons like Missy Elliott and Will Smith. His career soared when he performed at the VMA's with Janet Jackson, marking a pivotal moment.

Throughout his journey, Clifford worked with acclaimed choreographers and assisted acts like Destiny's Child and Beyoncé, expanding his skill set. Transitioning to the music industry as a recording artist with Capital Records, he later ventured into acting with a recurring role on NBC's "Crowded."

Diversifying his creative pursuits, Clifford explored screenwriting, producing three well-received films for television. He recently contributed to Oprah Winfrey's production of "The Color Purple."

Maintaining a lasting collaboration with Usher, Clifford has been part of 3 Super Bowl Halftime Shows, including Usher, Kendrick Lamar and Missy Elliott. With over two decades of relentless dedication, Clifford exemplifies how persistence paves the way for enduring success.

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Episode Summary:

In this episode of the Business of Dance podcast, host James Coons, a senior agent at Bloc Talent Agency, delves into his personal journey and insights into the dance industry. Coons reflects on his transition from a sports-oriented upbringing in Kentucky to discovering his passion for musical theater in high school, leading him to extensive travel with Disney and eventually to a fulfilling career as a dance agent.

Throughout the episode, Coons emphasizes the importance of perseverance and clear decision-making in the casting process, as well as the significance of quality over quantity in agency expansion. He discusses the submission process for dancers, highlighting the need for effective communication and the submission of essential materials like resumes and footage.

Coons also addresses the role of local agents for dancers outside major markets, stressing the importance of careful contract scrutiny and the cultivation of experience before venturing into larger cities. He touches upon industry standards for agent fees and advises young dancers to focus on building relationships within the industry from a young age.

The episode further explores topics such as child talent agencies, the value of college dance programs, and the importance of self-care in maintaining a balanced dance career. Coons encourages dancers to find fulfillment outside of their craft, emphasizing the benefits of travel and diverse life experiences in enhancing artistic expression.

As the episode concludes, Coons expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his expertise and announces exciting developments within Bloc Talent Agency, showcasing the dynamic and supportive nature of the dance community.

Show notes:

• 0:03 Dance industry insights with agent James Coons.

• 1:58 Transitioning from sports to musical theater.

• 4:02 Passion for theater and dance, transition to casting agent.

• 7:29 Casting process and agency work.

• 13:22 Dance representation and marketing materials.

• 16:42 Dance industry representation and local agents.

• 19:22 Dance agencies, auditions, and relationships.

• 25:08 Child talent agencies and auditions.

• 27:15 Dance career paths and college vs. signing at 18.

• 30:41 Career paths in the entertainment industry.

• 37:03 College dance programs and their value.

• 39:56 Dance agencies and parental involvement.

• 42:26 Dance career development and self-care with industry expert James.

Biography:

James was born and raised in the small town of Paris, KY, and in 2009 he moved to LA to obtain his BFA in Musical Theatre.

After graduating he worked with Walt Disney Company performing around the world including in Tokyo and Shanghai.

Once back in LA he obtained his Bachelor of Science in Business and worked for Michael Donovan Casting for years and that is where he found his love for being on the other side of the table.

For the past few years he has been building out the commercial and legit departments at Bloc Talent Agency and has a passion for developing emerging talent for the screen and stage.

His other interests include seeing shows, traveling, working with children and just enjoying life.

Website:

https://www.blocagency.com/

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/blocla/

https://www.instagram.com/james_coons/

https://www.facebook.com/james.coons.9

Episode Summary:

Professional dancer and choreographer Anthony Carr shares insights from his career journey. Anthony's dance path began at age four, guided by his mother's influence as a dancer. He transitioned from ballet to hip hop, finding solace and freedom in the latter despite initial setbacks.

He reflects on his experiences in various dance schools and becoming an associate choreographer of The Wiz in NYC, emphasizing the role of mentors and support in his journey.

His story includes shifts from New York to Los Angeles, and even Canada working on films like Hairspray. He shares experiences of auditioning for TLC and touring with Corbin Bleu.

Anthony also touches on mentorship and parental support in dance, advising parents to give dancers space to learn and grow independently. He discusses choreography and working with directors, praising the skills of choreographers like Marguerite Derricks and Jamal Sims. Anthony's admiration for industry legends like Mikhail Baryshnikov and Michael Jackson is evident, showcasing his appreciation for their talent and impact.

The episode concludes with Anthony encouraging dancers to embrace discomfort, take risks, and support each other, emphasizing the importance of staying passionate about the art form.

Show notes:

• 0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences.

• 2:15 Dance career path and transition from ballet to hip hop.

• 5:56 Dance career paths and financial sustainability.

• 9:29 Dance career, business, and personal growth.

• 16:35 Dance motivation and rejection.

• 19:44 Dance career paths and experiences.

• 26:43 Dance mentorship and parental support.

• 29:33 Choreography and working with various directors.

• 36:13 Dance career inspiration and industry legends.

• 39:25 Dance career paths and industry insights.

• 45:41 Transitioning from competition dancer to industry professional.

• 48:36 Dance choreography and training with a professional.

• 53:50 Dance training and career sustainability.

• 57:14 Dance career, inspiration, and advice with Broadway choreographer Anthony Morigerato.

Biography:

Born and raised in the Bronx, Anthony "Kanec" Carr emerges as a distinguished figure in the global arts scene, renowned for his prowess as a dancer, choreographer, and actor. His journey commenced at New York City's prestigious School of American Ballet, demonstrating early on his unwavering commitment to his craft.

Simultaneously, he pursued his education at the Professional Performing Arts School (PPAS), showcasing a dedication to both his artistic and academic pursuits. This dual focus propelled his growth, culminating in a fusion of exceptional raw talent and intensive technical training in ballet, tap, jazz, musical theatre, and hip hop by the age of 17.

Kanec swiftly found himself gracing the stage alongside multi-platinum selling recording artists such as Justin Bieber, Missy Elliott, Usher, Chris Brown, Cardi B, and TLC, among other illustrious names.

His portfolio boasts featured roles in prominent movies and television shows, including notable appearances in Step Up 1 & 3, FAME, Hairspray, the Justin Bieber 3D Movie, and Glee. His stage presence has illuminated celebrated venues like the Grammys and the Oscars, as well as various other prestigious musical award ceremonies.

Kanec's creative genius extends to choreography, where his artistry has enriched the work of acclaimed artists like Neyo, Eric Bellinger, and Daddy Yankee. His choreographic creations have been showcased on televised events such as "So You Think You Can Dance," attesting to his ability to craft compelling movement narratives.

Currently contributing to the choreography team for Broadway's "The Wiz" in NYC, Kanec's journey exemplifies a lifelong passion for dance, choreography, and the performing arts.

Website:

Kanec Carr | IDC Official Site (innovationdancecenter.com)

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/klassikkanec/

https://www.facebook.com/AnthonyLeeCarr

Episode Summary:

In this Business of Dance podcast episode, Mic Thompson,shares his extensive career journey. Starting with ballroom dancing, Thompson progressed to TV shows, Las Vegas performances, and a memorable impromptu gig in South Africa.

He recounts his path from working with Debbie Allen on the tv show “Fame” to becoming a main choreographer after starting as a Disney performer. A key episode highlight is Thompson's 1993 Michael Jackson audition, leading to a lasting professional and creative partnership.

The discussion delves into the dance industry's dynamics, emphasizing the importance of relationships and networking, illustrated by anecdotes like Chris Judd's engagement through Mic's recommendation. Thompson reflects on significant career achievements, including choreographing for Disney and evolving dance choreography, notably for Michael Jackson’s "Ghost."

The episode also covers Thompson's experiences with Las Vegas extravaganzas and training Chinese dancers, along with his involvement in projects like Pirates of the Caribbean.

The episode concludes with a surprise guest and Mic’s thoughts on the dance industry's history and the power of collaboration.

Show Notes:

• 0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences with a legendary choreographer.

• 3:44 Ballroom dancing and Las Vegas show auditions.

• 6:46 Early dance career in Las Vegas and South Africa.

• 11:41 Dance career, Fame TV show, and industry experiences.

• 15:40 Michael Jackson's Neverland theme park in the metaverse.

• 20:33 Michael Jackson's dance crew and Nick Thompson's role.

• 23:21 Dance industry, relationships, and Michael Jackson's short film.

• 28:50 Dance career highlights and experiences.

• 34:25 Dance choreography and performances.

• 38:45 Dance careers, Vegas shows, and international choreography.

• 43:34 Dance career, advice, and Pirates of the Caribbean experience.

• 49:14 Building relationships and paving the way for a dance career.

• 55:40 Building intentional relationships in the entertainment industry.

• 1:01:37 Dance industry history and collaboration.

  
  

  Biography:

  Mic Thompson, a versatile choreographer, has made a significant impact on the entertainment industry. Known for his versatility, Mic was a guest choreographer for the Las Vegas School District (CCSD) Dance Festival, creating a dazzling "BOLLYWOOD" Pop production and "NEWSIES."

  Over his 25-year career, Mic has worked with clients like Walt Disney Animation, Disneyland, Universal Studios, Royal Caribbean, NBC, FOX, IBM, and Caesars Entertainment. Dubbed the "Trick of all Trades" by Dance Spirit Magazine, he seamlessly transitions between dance styles and mediums. His credits include stage shows for Disney/Pixar films, performances at Barneys New York Disney Electric Holiday Event, and choreographing for Disney Theatrical Regional Broadway productions like "Tarzan." Internationally, he showcased his talents at the Lido De Paris Theatre in "Bonheur" Extravaganza.

  Mic's contributions to choreography have been recognized with awards such as the Southern California Best Choreography Award in 2018 and a nomination for "Best Choreography On The Las Vegas Strip" for his work in "BITE" at the Stratosphere. Collaborating with Michael Jackson from 1997 to 2001 was a highlight, performing internationally and nationally, leaving their mark on award TV shows like the AMA and MTV. His tribute show, "The Ultimate Thriller-MJ Tribute Spectacular," has traveled worldwide, honoring the music legend.

  Mic's enduring legacy is seen in the MICTENDO inner-active illuminated dance routine, performed by the BYU World Formation Ballroom Dance Team Champions. Mic Thompson's career showcases his talent, versatility, and dedication to the art of choreography.

  
  

  Website: www.micsmatch.com

  
  

  Connect on Social Media:

  https://www.instagram.com/micthompson/

  https://www.facebook.com/micsmatch

  
  

Episode Summary:

On "Business of Dance," Amy Allen details her journey from Britney Spears's audition hopeful to celebrated choreographer for A-listers like Usher. Starting as a Laker girl at 17, she swiftly broke into the LA dance scene. Her fusion of ballet with commercial dance catapulted her to tour with Beyoncé and later to choreograph for major acts.

Allen opens up about the hurdles of injury and the importance of self-care and creative vitality. She champions continuous learning and reflects on how further business education could have enhanced her career. Teaching herself to perfect ballet while teaching others, she advises using freestyle and life experiences to fuel choreographic work and stresses the significance of mentorship in seizing industry opportunities.

This episode offers a wealth of knowledge for aspiring dancers and creatives, with Allen and host Menina Fortunato exploring the intricacies of the dance world and the entrepreneurial acumen needed to thrive.

Show notes:

• 0:03 Dance industry insights and experiences with Amy Allen.

• 3:34 Early life, career path, and industry experiences.

• 10:47 Dance career highlights and experiences.

• 15:49 Dance career, competitiveness, and choreography.

• 20:37 Music, dance, and work with various artists.

• 25:55 Dance career, injuries, and choreography.

• 31:24 Dance choreography and overcoming creative blocks.

• 36:07 Dance styles, choreography, and creativity.

• 39:46 Dance career, college degree, and personal growth.

• 45:44 Dance careers, education, and dream jobs.

• 50:28 Dance passion, choreography, and teaching.

• 56:27 Dance technique and creativity.

• 1:01:38 Dance career paths with industry professionals.

  
  

Biography:

Amy Allen is a remarkable figure in the world of dance and entertainment, known for her incredible versatility, creative choreography, and unwavering dedication to her craft. With a career spanning television, film, commercials, and live performances, she has made a significant impact on the entertainment industry and the artists she has worked with.

Amy possesses the remarkable talent to transition effortlessly between hip hop and classical ballet, captivating audiences with her grace and poise. This exceptional skill set earned her two nominations for "Best Choreography" at the MTV Video Music Awards, for her work on Usher's "OMG" and Jason Derulo's "Talk Dirty" music videos.

On the small screen, Amy's choreography and infectious smile have graced some of the most popular and sought-after television shows, including "So You Think You Can Dance," "Dancing with the Stars," "Ellen," "American Idol," "X Factor," "Good Morning America," "Jimmy Kimmel," "The Today Show," "GMA," "David Letterman," "Ellen," and "The Voice."

Her talent has left an indelible mark on the industry, contributing to unforgettable moments at prestigious events such as the Nobel Peace Prize, European Music Awards, MTV Video Music Awards, Soul Train Awards, American Music Awards, MTV Movie Awards, Kids Choice Awards, iHeartRadio Music Awards, Grammy Awards, and BET Awards.

Amy's expertise in artist development sets her apart as a mentor and coach. Her ability to fuse classic dance styles with a distinct hip-hop flavor has led to collaborations with a plethora of renowned artists, including Usher, Britney Spears, Ne-Yo, Ciara, Jennifer Hudson, Hilary Duff, Justin Bieber, Will Smith, Faith Hill, Kelly Clarkson, Alicia Keys, Florence and the Machine, Pitbull, Hailee Steinfeld, and many more.

She ventured into the production industry, serving as a set designer for Jason Derulo's World Tour and TV performances.

Website

https://www.choreographeramyallendance.com/

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/gotamydance/https://www.facebook.com/amylilfire

Episode Summary:

In this engaging podcast, Menina Fortunato interviews Brandon Sierra about the nuances of professional dancing. Brandon, with his extensive background, discusses the crucial role authenticity plays in a dancer's career, particularly when finding representation. He addresses the difficulties for families who can't afford the costs of auditions and the importance of following instructions for self-tape submissions.

Brandon underscores the importance of networking, suggesting that a good recommendation can lead to being signed by an agent. He counsels aspiring dancers to be patient, invest in relationships and friendships, and diversify their dance repertoire to increase employability.

He also delves into the art of getting noticed by agents, advocating for a submission that is detailed yet focused on showcasing the dancer's true abilities. Concluding the conversation, Brandon stresses treating a dance career like a business venture, highlighting the value of education and strategic choices in training locations.

This podcast episode is a treasure trove for anyone aspiring to break into the dance industry, loaded with practical tips and insider insights from a seasoned professional.

Show Notes:

• 00:00:43 - Introduction to the Business of Dance Podcast
• 00:10:25 - Ideal Submission for Dancers
• 00:21:41 - The Authenticity in Portrayal
• 00:24:01 - Challenges in the Dance Industry
• 00:34:53 - Guidance on Self-Tapes
• 00:45:40 - The Power of Networking
• 00:53:55 - Building Relationships and Training
• 00:57:59 - Building and Training in Dance
• 01:02:56 - Dance as a Business
• 01:05:13 - Pursuing a Career in Dance

Biography:

Brandon Sierra is a prominent figure in the entertainment industry, having discovered his passion at an early age. His journey in the world of dance, vocal, and formal musical theater training led him to Niagara University. There, he earned his Bachelor’s in Fine Arts and Dance. During his time at the university, he had the privilege of working with the legendary musical theater duo, John Kander and Fred Ebb.

After his academic pursuits, Brandon spent seven fruitful years in New York City. This period was instrumental in shaping his career, providing him with numerous opportunities and professional experiences. One of the significant milestones during this time was his association with The Broadway Dance Center. This institution played a pivotal role in laying the foundation of his career, helping him establish a robust network and form lasting relationships in the industry.

Brandon's dedication and commitment to the entertainment world are evident in his work ethic and the high-quality service he provides. He is currently the Director of the Talent Department in LA and is associated with the MSA Agency. Brandon takes pride in his role, continually offering leadership and ensuring that the industry's expectations are not just met but exceeded.

In addition to his professional achievements, Brandon's personality shines through in his interactions. He is known to be humble, always wearing a smile, and has left a lasting impression on those who have had the pleasure of working with him.

Website
https://msaagency.com/team/brandonsierra/

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Episode Summary:

In this enlightening podcast episode, Vincent Paterson narrates his illustrious career, detailing his collaborations with Michael Jackson and Madonna. He reminisces about being cast as the gang leader in Jackson's "Beat It" video and their subsequent partnership. Vincent highlights the creative liberties Jackson afforded him, which culminated in the iconic "Smooth Criminal" lean and revolutionized the Super Bowl halftime show.

Vincent recounts his initial tense interaction with Madonna during a Pepsi commercial shoot, which later transitioned into a dynamic collaboration for the Blonde Ambition Tour. He discusses his assertive stance during contract negotiations, resulting in fair compensation and setting an industry standard for artists' rights.

Listeners are treated to a behind-the-scenes look at the dance world through Vincent's narratives, packed with valuable takeaways for dancers, choreographers, and enthusiasts alike. Join in to explore the life of a dance legend and gain unique perspectives on the performing arts industry.

Show Notes:

• 00:00:45 - Introduction and Vincent's Career Highlights

• 00:02:18 - Vincent's New Book and His Work with Michael Jackson

• 00:03:46 - Vincent's Roles

• 00:05:38 - Vincent's Role in "Smooth Criminal"

• 00:10:22 - Vincent's Encounter with Madonna on the Set of a Pepsi Commercial

• 00:18:55 - Impact of Vincent's Work on Other Dancers

• 00:28:57 - Vincent's Approach to Choreography

• 00:37:05 - Vincent's Audition for "Beat It"

Biography:

Vincent Paterson is a renowned director and choreographer with a diverse career spanning film, theater, music, and television. He directed and choreographed notable productions such as "Cabaret" in Berlin and "Evita" in Vienna. Vincent's work on "Gangsta Love" and "Gulliver's Travels" garnered critical acclaim.

In Las Vegas, he helmed Cirque du Soleil's "Viva! Elvis," and he directed the opera "Manon" with Anna Netrebko, conducted by Placido Domingo. His collaborations with Madonna and Michael Jackson are legendary, including directing Madonna's "Blond Ambition Tour" and creating iconic performances like her Marie Antoinette-inspired "Vogue." With Michael Jackson, Vincent choreographed the "Bad Tour" and the Super Bowl halftime show.

Vincent's film contributions include choreographing Lars Von Trier's "Dancer in the Dark." His short film, "Threnody," explored 9/11 through dance, while his choreography graced films like "The Birdcage," "Closer," and "Evita."

He earned Emmy nominations for the TNT Telefilm "In Search of Dr. Seuss" and a Tony nomination for Hal Prince's "Kiss of the Spiderwoman" on Broadway. Vincent has also directed commercials, lectured worldwide, and taught acting and dance in various locations.

Throughout his career, Vincent has collaborated with music legends such as Madonna, Michael Jackson, George Harrison, and Whitney Houston. His accomplishments are celebrated in the Smithsonian publication "Masters of Movement" and the documentary "The Man Behind the Throne."

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https://www.vincentpaterson.com/

Episode Summary:

In this enriching podcast episode, we explore the dance world with Tammy To, a seasoned performer with a family legacy in dance. Tammy shares her personal dance journey, from formative family influences to the hurdles she's overcome in her extensive career.

Tammy highlights the critical role of mentorship, describing the significant impact her mentors had on her development and how she now mentors upcoming talents. The conversation turns to dance's business aspects, where Tammy unpacks the challenges of leading a dance company and the nuances of choreography contracts.

A poignant discussion on diversity within dance reveals the industry's strides toward inclusiveness, an evolution Tammy has witnessed firsthand. She speaks to the merging of classical and modern dance, noting how this blend has enriched performance art.

Tammy's insights extend to dance's future, anticipating transformations in presentation and consumption, especially through technological advancements and digital spaces. The episode wraps with Tammy's reflective advice, offering a blend of inspiration and practical guidance for dancers and enthusiasts alike.

Listeners gain an intimate look at a dance luminary's experiences and philosophies, providing valuable perspectives for anyone with a love for dance.

Show Notes:

• 00:00:56 - Introduction of Guest: Tammy To

• 00:02:16 - Tammy To's Diverse Background

• 00:03:21 - Tammy's Early Dance Journey

• 00:06:30 - Transition to Casting and Cirque du Soleil

• 00:11:06 - Casting Process Insights

• 00:15:29 - In-Person Auditions and Workshops

• 00:17:01 - The Role of Social Media in Casting

• 00:20:15 - Challenges Faced by Dancers

• 00:23:30 - Importance of Networking

• 00:26:50 - Transitioning from Dance to Other Roles

• 00:29:10 - Advice for Aspiring Dancers

• 00:32:05 - Diversity in Dance

• 00:35:20 - The Evolution of Dance Styles

• 00:38:40 - The Future of Dance

• 00:41:55 - Closing Thoughts and Reflections

  
  

Biography:

Tammy To's passion for dance has been evident from her early days in Seattle. Her initial foray into the world of professional dance began with the NBA Seattle Supersonics. This experience, combined with her academic pursuits in Business Administration from the University of Washington, set the stage for a promising career in dance. The allure of the LA dance scene beckoned, and Tammy soon found herself relocating to Los Angeles. Known for her versatility, she quickly made a name for herself, establishing a strong reputation in the LA dance community.

Her filmography includes notable appearances in movies such as "You Again" and "The Muppets". Moreover, she has had the privilege of dancing alongside music icons like Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Katy Perry, and Fergie. Her diverse roles span from stage to television productions, working with esteemed companies like Disney, Nickelodeon, and the Radio City Rockettes.

2011 marked a significant milestone in Tammy's career when she joined the Michael Jackson Immortal World Tour with Cirque du Soleil. As a member of the original cast, she traveled the world, both as a dancer and dance captain. Her journey with Cirque du Soleil continued with the Las Vegas production of Michael Jackson ONE. After many years on stage, Tammy transitioned to support Cirque du Soleil productions as a member of the Casting Team, leveraging her vast experience to nurture and guide new talent.

Connect on Social Media:

https://www.instagram.com/tamzee817/

https://www.facebook.com/TammyTo

Cirque Du Soleil Website

https://casting.cirquedusoleil.com/blog/tammy-to-detraz

Episode Summary:

Join Lisa and Terry Lindholm as they provide an insider's guide through the intricate talent industry of Hollywood. From the fundamental aspects of the business to the essentials of financial and social media strategy for dancers, they cover what it takes to flourish in the competitive landscape. They also touch on the evolving nature of auditions, the significance of agency relationships, and the crucial elements of representation.

Show Notes:

• 00:01:28 Introduction to Lisa & Terry Lindholm

• 00:03:46 Terry's Shift from Dancer to Agent

• 00:10:23 The Power of Relationships

• 00:14:48 The Art of Presentation at Auditions

• 00:20:17 Youth Opportunities in Dance

• 00:28:35 Advancements in Dance

• 00:38:49 Social Media Impact

• 00:42:03 Self-Taping & Remote Auditions

• 00:53:48 Emphasizing Training & Goals

• 01:12:28 Agency Consistency & Dialogue

  
  

Biographies:

Terry Lindholm

A cornerstone of the dance and talent representation world, Terry co-founded Go 2 Talent Agency, Inc. (GTA) in 2011. With a career encompassing tours, award shows, and choreography, he is also a strong advocate for dancers' rights and interests.

Lisa Coppola Lindholm:

Renowned for her commitment to client care in talent representation, Lisa's industry experience is marked by her honesty and problem-solving acumen. A former professional dancer, she has worked with top industry names and continues to advocate for her clients fiercely.

Connect on Social Media

https://www.instagram.com/go2talent/

Website:
https://www.gototalentagency.com/about