The Ultimate Guide to the National Climate Assessment (NCA5) - The Podcast

2h 21m · America Adapts the Climate Change Podcast · 09 Jan 00:11

In episode 197 America Adapts, we’ve got something special for you - the ultimate guide to the fifth edition of the National Climate Assessment. Joining the pod is the director of the NCA, Allison Crimmins who provides a 30,000-foot level view of what’s in NCA5. Then regular contributor – and executive producer of America Adapts – Dr. Jesse Keenan of Tulane University joins the episode and we take a deep dive on what’s in the assessment. Jesse will be your guide through the assessment, as he analyzes and provides expert insights into its positive aspects and benefits. Finally, Dr. Eric Tate of Princeton University – and co-author of the adaptation chapter of NCA5 – wraps up the episode. All three offer their advice on how you can leverage the NCA in your adaptation planning and climate communications. In the world of climate adaptation, finding a common language can be challenging, but embracing the NCA can be a game-changer, helping those doing work in ESG, Sustainability, resilience and adaptation planning find common ground. If you've ever felt intimidated by the sheer size of the assessment and wondered how it can be relevant to your work, this episode is tailor-made for you. This is a doozy of an episode, so share it in your networks!

Transcript of this episode available here.

Experts in this Episode:

Allison Crimmins - Director, National Climate Assessment (Starting Minute 1:33)

Dr. Jesse Keenan - Favrot II Associate Professor of Sustainable Real Estate and Urban Planning within the faculty of the School of Architecture at Tulane University (Starting Minute 25:17)

Dr. Eric Tate - Professor of Public Affairs in the School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University (Starting Minute 2:09:41)

Topics Covered:

Introduction to NCA5 and its purpose
Key differences in NCA5 compared to previous editions
Advice for using the climate assessment effectively
Sustaining the assessment with podcasts and other communication methods
Introduction to Dr. Jesse Keenan and the Fifth National Climate Assessment
Private landowners and their adoption of climate assessment in management.
Regulatory actions, subsidies, and market-based incentives in forestry.
The paradox of growth and adaptation in coastal areas
The tension between desiring radical change and agency over transformation
Fisheries: Challenges and Barriers to Adaptation
Agriculture: Diversifying Crops and Improving Resilience
Rural Communities: The Need for Institutional Capacity in Adaptation
Managed Relocation and its Implications
Risk Assessment Tools and Calculating Resilience Benefits
Trade-offs and Collateral Impacts of Adaptation Measures
Extreme Heat: The Number One Climate Killer
Tribal and Indigenous Communities Leading Climate Resilience
Lessons for Tribal Communities and Beyond
Adaptation: Cost, Effectiveness, and Economic Rationalization
Financial Barriers to Climate Adaptation
The Need for Cooperative Investments in Adaptation
Key Messages and Themes in the Adaptation Chapter
Dr. Tate's Perspective on Centering Equity in Adaptation

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https://www.globalchange.gov/staff/allison-crimmins
https://cpree.princeton.edu/people/eric-tate
https://nca2023.globalchange.gov/

Adaptation Chapter of NCA5
https://nca2023.globalchange.gov/chapter/31/

ICR24 Website
https://www.battelle.org/conferences/conference-on-innovations-in-climate-resilience

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https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/03/climate-migration-rust-belt-economy/677856/

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Transcript for this episode available here.

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Background on The Institute for Climate and Peace
The state of climate migration.
As we adapt, what will dominate, peaceful approaches to adaptation or more conflict oriented approaches?
Differences in Climate justice in the global north and the global south.
Response differences between climate change and covid-19.
Repairing relationships through climate reparations.
Carbon based climate reparations.
Reparations and their role in helping frontline communities adapt.
Climate reparations are meant to ‘rebuild trust’.
Learn about the climate program at the University of Hawaii.

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A Pathway To Peace: Ideas For A New And More Resilient Reality

The Future of Climate Change and Peace

Youth Leadership Needed In Time Of Climate Uncertainty

Research:

Behind the Veil: Climate Migration, Regime Shift, and a New Theory of Justice

In Search of Refuge: Pacific Islands, Climate-Induced Migration, and the Legal Frontier

*On the potential for current climate ligation to address racial inequity, please seeLitigating Separate and Equal.

*On equity and reparations, please seeClimate Reparations. This is a relatively older piece, but is a nice precursor to my current contribution to the Lancet Commission on Reparations and Redistributive Justice for which I serve as the climate section lead.

*On small island vulnerability and deterritorialized statehood, please see The Nation Ex-Situ.

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