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#16 - w/ Author, Dan Kovalik

1h 15m · All Systems Good Podcast · 18 May 15:00

This week on All Systems Good we had the privilege to connect with Author, Dan Kovalik, who just recently released his new book 'Cancel This Book: The Progressive Case Against Cancel Culture'. In parallel with his rapidly growing library of publications, Dan was a legal representative for the Pittsburgh Steelworkers Union. All of this becomes the foundation of our conversation.

As Eli mentioned in his personal story rant, typically All Systems Good is very business and tactically focused and there was a lot of that planned for this conversation, but considering the topic of Dan's book, stream of consciousness took a front seat. That's far from a bad thing, though. This is a good faith conversation that starts in the realm of unions and spans into culture and politics that carries no water for any side. We tackle a lot of really important and culturally heavy topics, but as stream of consciousness often does, we weren't incredibly focused on putting a nice clean bow on things. The great thing about how this turned out is that it lays a beautiful foundation for a Part 2 conversation.

Things you can look forward to us covering in a more tactical way in Part 2:

- The difference between symbolic gestures and substantive policy change
- The political strategy and power of withholding your vote
- The critical importance for a path to redemption
- Freedom of speech and the danger of creating precedent for censorship
- Macro policies that solve or contribute to solving Micro issues.
- Resist praising politicians for being better than predecessors and reserve it for only when they meet the occasions with adequate solutions.

We really had a great time having this conversation and I hope you all enjoy listening to it. If there's anything you think we should go deeper on in our Part 2 conversation, throw it in the comments and we'll be sure to add it to our list.

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