Real Estate Marketing Dude

Today we are looking at how to stand out. There's a lot of ways but none of them work unless you have authenticity. How can you communicate with personalization and authenticity? Let's find out.

Jesse Stein is a experienced tech entrepreneur, having founded Audience.co, SportsMemorabilia.com, Triton Academy, DietSpotlight.com and more.

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So how do you track new business, you constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas to real estate marketing. And this podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started.

What's up, ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the real estate marketing dude podcast. That's what we're gonna be talking about today is standing out and being a little bit different. And our guest today, actually, I can pitch to be on the show all the time, like people are always gonna be on the show. Most people want to sell their shit. But this dude actually sent me an video specifically to me via email, which got my attention, which then we're talking now and we're on the show, because otherwise I wouldn't have looked at it. And it was how he was communicating with me that really got my attention. And I'm like, Oh, shit, this is great. But guess what, he did it on a video. A lot of people send pitches here all the time. And okay, we'll do it through text based email. And then it's the same thing. It's almost like you feel it. It's a regurgitated copy and paste email from some kind of podcast booking agency that always reaches out to me and says, Oh, I have a new guest for you, blah, blah, blah, I'm like, your This isn't authentic. It's Bs, and most of them I delete. But this dude gets a does a video, even trust me by first name, because Hey, Mike, I know, I really want to get on your podcast I've shown us he walked me through his product and all the stuff that he has in his place. And it was engaging. And because he did that, I was like, dude, let's do that show. Otherwise, we might not have done the show. So what we're gonna be chatting about today, is that how do you get people's attention that are trying to stick out? And how do you do that in marketing? How do you do that in real estate? Through digital through direct mail, personalized direct mail, but at the end of the day, here's what works guys. I don't care what the hell you're doing authenticity, authenticity, people feeling like you're one on one communication, people feeling like you're just the only one they're gonna get attention to. So that's exactly we're gonna chat about. So without further ado, I want to introduce the CEO of audience.co. Mr. Jesse Stein. How're you doing, buddy? Great. Thanks for having me. Mike. You want to tell everyone a little quick intro? Who are you? What do you do? What is audience and I got all kinds of questions for you. Yeah, so I started audience bout four years ago, we've been selling in earnest for two years we've got now 1000s of real estate agents on the platform. I started a company called sports memorabilia.com. I bought that as a raw domain in 2005. And with a team of people eminently smarter and more talented than me, which is a common theme in my career. We built it into the biggest autograph store on the internet, a top 500 internet retailer ended up selling it to fanatics. But one of the ways we grew it was through handwritten notes. And we sent handwritten notes to customers. And we realized that the clients that received notes, spent more money with us left better reviews, referred more business, they were easier to deal with. There's just a virtuous circle to sending handwritten notes. But there was no scale to the process, because we were having contractors, people in our warehouse assistants writing the notes, so there was no scale, the handwriting was often terracing. And there was no way to run campaigns, there was no way to really follow up and figure out, you know, when was the last time I sent to notes, a trigger note to and so forth. So I was kind of waiting for someone to do it. And all I kept getting in my physical mailbox, were notes that pretended to look handwritten, but really weren't. I'm sure all of us have received those notes. And I just noticed that the mail that was arriving into my physical mailbox was not making it to my kitchen counter consistently. So we went out, I hired a software engineering team. And we built this incredible software. And we have these amazing robots. And what we did was because of my backgrounds in digital marketing, I got started in digital marketing in 99. Actually, that's when I started my first online retailer, and learn how to build sales funnels and websites and learn how to buy online media and all that way back in the early 2000s. And have built that over time. So I always knew that audience would be a combination of handwritten notes with digital marketing follow up, because when you send the note, that's great. But now you need to follow the user journey, right? You need to follow that prospect on his or her journey from the note all the way through to online so from the mailbox to the inbox, and so what we've built

Is this company where we've optimized every facet of the note itself. So it's on a fixed stock card, it's a bifold. Note, what we do is we create a beautiful graphic for the front of the note, we have a whole graphics team all unique graphics, what we do is optimize for the chances that people will keep and display the note because that homeowner probably isn't interested in listing his role right then and there. But when they are your top of mind, and the key is to get them to keep it that's why we do a bifold. Note, every character of every note we do is written with a real pen by our handwriting robots that use the same pressure slant and flow as a human. They write in 15 Different fonts, they're super cool to look at. They vary up the left and right margins, they even do synonym replacement. So two neighbors in a building or block can hold up notes they got from us. And they look totally different. We do totally different graphics. So what happens is, and we even do a QR code sticker directly on the note. So what happens is it's all trackable. So people reflexively, because of COVID menus, they reflexively take up their phones, and they scan the QR code. And they don't even need to reach out to you. And it can go to a landing page of your of your choice. But what happens is, you the client, the real estate agent get pinged automatically when they scan it. And then what we do this is magic, we find all the accurate email addresses and social handles of everyone we send notes to, and then directly inside our app, it's as easy as clicking and you follow up by email, you follow up and connect with them on LinkedIn, and Instagram and everyone where else everyone knows marketing in 2023 is integrated multichannel. So you can't just do stuff in a vacuum. And so I saw our competitors out there, before I started the company, I saw that they were just doing the notes. And you know, they were naming the company is really old school things that had to do with, you know, handwriting and addresses and stuff. And I never saw it that way. I just see this as an outbound marketing platform. That's why we named it audience. And we also have beautiful maps feature where you can go right in, you can put an address in, and then you can do circle prospecting. And so we automatically detect, when you list or sell a home, we trigger an email to you click, and then you can find all the properties right around this home. So right now I just happen to be on the maps feature. And we found 309 properties around this property and Basking Ridge, New Jersey, and it's as easy as clicking twice. And then you trigger just listed just sold mailers in the form of handwritten notes to everybody around the property you just listed or sold. So we're about two and a half times the cost of printed direct mail. But we're about eight times the response just in the first 30 days. And then the half life on the ROI is really long, because people keep a display and what I mean by that is the agent will get we've worked with so many agents now and there's no no wonder that folks like Chris Heller are investors, Tom ferries an investor, we have all these super happy clients, you can go to audience.co Check out all the all the testimonials. But it's really you know, you talked about it earlier, Mike, it's about being consistently useful and adding value and developing expertise, authority and trust. So a lot of the note templates, we will hold template library, because we've sent millions and millions of notes. They're all about building expertise, offering offering analysis about the market. It's not our notes are not sell, sell, sell. It's delayed gratification. We're working with top agents who are not dabbling in real estate. They're not tau dippers, it's not a hobby. We're working with folks for whom real estate is a career. And so it's all about building that incredible foundation using the notes. And then the digital handshake of crossing over into digital. And it work

In today's market, we should all seek to be investor friendly, especially as agents. We are looking at how investing is a great way to accumulate tax free real estate.

Mat has been at the forefront of the Self-Directed IRA industry since 2006. He’s CEO of Directed IRA, a partner at KKOS Lawyers, a national speaker, a top-ranked podcast host, a best-selling author, and a self-directed retirement investor. Mat is a VIP Contributor at Entrepreneur and is an expert author at Cryptopedia.

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So how do you track new business, you constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas to real estate marketing. And this podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started

What's up ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the real estate marketing dude, podcast, market shifted, folks, we're gonna talk about something not so much on marketing today. I mean, I guess it can be, but more so on skill sets, something very important, I believe is gonna be coming up into the market. And although interest rates went down to 5%, I still don't think we're at the end of this thing. Yeah, do you guys, I'm almost positive, I could tell you that, but I can't predict the future. I've seen a couple shifts in my age. But what one of the skills I'm getting out is, whatever you're gonna decide to do, you need to become investor friendly. If the only types of transactions you guys are creating are just residential buy, sell and moves, you're gonna be missing a major opportunity in the upcoming market. Because the reality is, is that the real estate industry has a large shortage of investor friendly agents. Most agents aren't even know what the fuck we're talking about right here when we start talking about this. And if I didn't personally know someone who taught me all this stuff, like five or six years ago, I would be completely lost. But how cool would it be? If you were able to teach your clients, all people, anyone you knew how to buy tax free real estate, and not pay any taxes on it at all? Because that's basically what self directed IRA investing is. I'm gonna tee up and I don't know what Matt here is gonna talk about. We just met like, what how long goes like two minutes ago? Yeah, I'm great, though. I'm gonna dumb this down for everybody. Okay, and just break this down in human language. So I know Matt's an attorney and get into these big terms and stuff. So I'm gonna put them in real estate terms. We call them layman's. Alright, so all this says you can build you can install certain amount of money into a Roth. And after that Roth is season season, he'll define what season means you can literally treat it like a bank account that doesn't get taxed. Is that a fair statement? Yeah, the number one way to make money in the US tax free and not go to prison. The number one thing people are gonna be looking for is an agent that understands this type of skill set one of them all the investors skill sets. And even the rookie investors, this is how you pull them in once you know more than what they do. Great. That's the whole point of having a fucking license to begin with, and having a job you guys. So without further ado, we're gonna go ahead and introduce our guests as an expert here at the top book on self directed investing and IRAs. And you want to take notes on this episode, because you don't get hired for what the hell you do you get hired for how you do it. Matt, why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself to the listeners here who may not know you yet? Why don't you say hello and tell them a little bit about what you do. And I got a bunch of questions for you. Yeah, love it. Thanks for having me. I love this topic. I'm Matt Sorenson. I'm an attorney wrote the number one book the self directed IRA handbook. In the field, I self direct my own retirement account, my IRA and 401 K's into real estate. I've been doing this since 2006, for clients, and I'll give you an example of my first client I did this with that was the whole reason I got into this space and specialized in it. But I have a Ira company where a trust company called directed IRA, we have over a billion assets primarily invested in real estate. So you know, every day we're opening 3040 new accounts, the majority of which are buying real estate, there's $30 trillion in the US in retirement accounts. $30 trillion. So for anyone listening, like, I don't care if you have zero money in retirement accounts, and you're like, This isn't for me, I don't have $1 in an IRA or 401k. Yeah, but everyone else does your potential clients do other people that can fund deals for you do? And then for those either in the real estate space, wouldn't it be nice if you could invest tax deferred, or tax free dollars like IRA and 401, K's into something you actually know, like real estate instead of buying a stock bond or mutual fund. So it's a huge topic, huge topic. It's where all the money's at so. So everybody's got to know this.

Exactly right, dude. So here's what I want to start with. Because I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you questions based upon what I'm pretty positive. A lot of the agents don't know, just so they understand how this process works. Alright, so forgive me if I asked you. So first first question I have on this is

you just sort of said it. Why is it important for real estate agents and lenders to know about what a self directed IRA is? Why the hell do I need to know that? Yeah, well, if you have your own retirement account, wouldn't it be nice to invest it in what you know? I mean, if you're in the real estate space, you have a competitive advantage to see deals and opportunities. You know, I used to teach classes to the Realtors Association all the time. I'd ask people how

Many of you have an IRA or 401k, like two thirds of the room, raise your raise, how many of your IRA or 401, k's are invested in, in mutual funds, as you know that same groups hands still up? How many of you know a good mutual fund that you're excited to buy and you think is going to make you money? Everyone puts their hand down? Like how many of you know a real estate deal? You think you can make money on? The frickin whole classroom goes up, let alone people don't even have an IRA or 401 K, I'm like, why are you not investing in what you know? Like, you're like LeBron James, playing ping pong go dominate what you're good at, like, you're gonna get better return. So if you're in the real estate space, this is you actually have a huge advantage over everyone else to make money in these specialty accounts. And when we say there's a self directed IRA, and there's an IRA, and correct me if I'm wrong, but an IRA is like when you get a financial planner, like, Hey, do give me like, 10% of your money, and I need to go invest it. And then these guys go out there, and then they put it in some kind of computer algorithm or whatnot, and they're trading all these stocks, you get statements for it, no one knows what the fuck they may or say, or when your expenses were made. You don't know it. But you know, I've a lot of financial planner, friends, but self is like you control your own investments. That's the difference, right? You could invest into like a financial planner and have like a, what's it called, like, creating a mutual account? I guess, is that the word?

But or you could control your own destiny by investing that self RA into hard assets? You can buy gold with them, can you silver, you could you can lend that money as a lending source. So I could lend someone 10 grand and charge them 12 and get back to 20% interest. You know, you could do whatever you want you direct the investments. Right? Yeah, I think the easiest way is self directed IRA is basically an IRA that can invest in any asset allowed by law. So like, there's 30 companies that do what we do. We're the best directed IRA, you don't need to know anyone else. And look us up, you know, check our reviews versus our competitors and our fees and everything. I don't think anybody's even close to us. But if you let's say you have an IRA at Fidelity or TD Ameritrade and you call it fidelity or TD Ameritrade you say, hey, I want to buy real estate with my IRA. They're gonna be like, you can't do it. And it's not because IRAs can't do it. It's because fidelity IRAs and TD Ameritrade, IRAs can't do it like their broker dealers, they let you buy what they sell, they don't sell real estate, they're gonna let make you click a button to buy something they sell, which is stocks, bonds and mutual funds. So you have to just move that account. So if you're at fidelity, and you have a Roth IRA, they're buying stocks or mutual funds, and you got 100 grandson over there, and you're like, Oh, I'd rather put this 100 grand on a real estate deal. I want to be a private money lender to somebody doing a flip whatever the case may be. We just transfer that 100 grand from Fidelity over to your Roth IRA directed, which is self directed and will let you do real estate. I mean, other stuff. You mentioned precious metals, like gold a

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So how do you track new business, you constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas to real estate marketing. And this podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started.

What's up ladies and gentlemen, welcome to their episode of the real estate marketing dude, podcast. What we're gonna be chatting about today, folks, is something going on in the marketing industry. And one of the most common questions that we're getting right now is, Hey, what is the difference between Long and short form content? What is right for me should I do short form should do long form, which one gets the better results, and all of the buzz and all the above, and I'm going to share with you everything that we see between the both. We do a lot of these videos each month, and not just for me, for clients throughout the country. So we get a lot of really good insight, a lot of data. And I want to share with you on that, especially if you're thinking about implementing video this year. So first, if you're thinking about implementing video this year, don't do it alone, do it with the real estate marketing dude, because not only will we train you how to get going with script and distribute your content each month. But secondly, I don't have a second lien. So let's keep going. Alright, so what I'm going to do is I want to start off with this. There's a major difference between short and long form content. And the reality is, is the right strategy for you is going to be based upon what are you doing video for? Now, I'm going to walk through the difference because you shouldn't you always reverse engineer your strategy. The most important thing about getting on video is which is right for your personality, which is right for your brand. Can you speak for five minutes on camera, if not, you almost always know your short form scripter. However, if you're more of a storyteller, and long winded and you might want to go too long form, ultimately, distribution and results is the difference between two. So when we create long form videos, we create and we multipurpose we create and we multipurpose. We regardless of the type of video we're doing, we fully distributed them the same way each and every time. So for example, let's just say I'm doing a six minute video on living in San Diego, I'm still going to take that video and send it to my database via video email, I'm going to put that video on YouTube, I'm going to create a blog post on that video, then I'm going to put that video up on my site, I'm going to video email that video to my entire database. And there's just more distribution tactics. However, when I'm doing short form video, I'm not video emailing a short form video to my database. I'm not putting that on my YouTube channel with the exception of shorts. I'm not writing a blog post on it. And there's less ways to multipurpose short form content. So in other words, when I'm posting on short form only or the goal is just short form, chances are it's going to be more appropriate for social media only when you're creating shorts on social. It's a one and done strategy, right? You create content, and then you publish it and then you're pretty much never going to read use that content again. So it's something you definitely want to consider. When I'm doing long form content. I'm always repurposing that down the road, I put it into my auto responder, I video email is part of my drip to clients. And I make sure I use that content in the future short form, I'm not going to do that it's too short, to remain relevant to really give true education. However, short form is very good for attracting attention. So let's talk a little bit about short form. Short Form is what the social sites are pushing right now. Okay. I've done so many case studies on this and I'll give you a quick result of my own channel. So I'm still creating one long form video a month. But amongst that long form video a month, I'm also doing four to five shorts. In between that long form video. I posted the same video as a post or just how you would post a normal video. And I got a total whopping 84 views. 84 people watch that video. I 5000 friends on Facebook, I used to consistently get 2500 views. Anytime I create content 12 months ago 1314 15 months ago, but today, my long form content isn't getting shown see Facebook, Instagram. All these companies are competing against you know each other essentially and whether it's Snapchat or YouTube shorts, every social media platform has come out with a version of short form content Now the reason why they're making this push is because obviously, the stats and the numbers behind that content strategy. People are viewing and consuming short form on a massive scale as compared to long form. So, in other words, you're getting a lot more eyeballs on short form content than you are on long form right now, especially on Facebook, especially on Instagram. And it's just because the algorithms are pushing those, like the Facebook is pushing short form content. So they're showing it to more people. My short form videos and the versus long form, my short film has blown it away. It's almost consistently getting 1000 views a month. But if I wasn't posting those two reels, there's no way in hell, I'm getting that engagement. So when you're considering your video strategy, these are all things you want to take into consideration. When I get someone that says, Hey, Mike, I want to blow up my YouTube channel. Well, first, loading up your YouTube channel is not as easy as it used to be most of these markets already taken up. And it's gonna be possible for you to rank. So anyone telling you, oh, you could do this in any market is completely lying to you right now. Because you can't do this in any market all YouTube views down and rally, it's saturated on YouTube, because you have people teaching this and whatnot for the last few years, four or five years ago, if you got into YouTube, you're probably doing pretty well right now. So I say that because knowing why you're doing video in the first place is the most important part. Without it, you'll never create the right strategy. So I want you to think about that. Why are you doing video, this is ultimately how you pick the exact right strategy for you. I believe. And I've done this with hundreds and hundreds of agents. And I've proven the model that regardless if you follow our system, or we just create content, and we have content through direct mail, email, social media, the same results apply, because all we're doing is activating the network you already have. So that's why what you create has everything to do with the strategy behind it, the most important part of the strategy. So let's go through a couple examples. Long Form video for YouTube is only going to be living in moving to neighborhood or area tours. That's the type of content that you're going to create for a channel to get it ranking. If my goal is not to rank my channel, I would never create that content. If my goal is to rank that channel, I have to create that content. Because it's 100% long form video strategy where you get relocating clients. So now on the other hand, playing pros and cons, all of those videos, regardless if it's part of a YouTube strategy or not, I'm repurposing all of them to my database through video email, I put them on my website. And I'll run ads to that content even many times. So again, it's because I have a strategy behind it. On the flip side, let's just say you're more of a short form person, that's what you watch, that's what you create short form is just to create a tension around your brand. And using that video content as a way to farm your relationships. Basically, you're farming your Facebook friends, your IG followers, and reminding them consistently that you're in real estate. Because short form videos getting a much larger push through the platforms. That's why people are winning. So the question comes down to Are you are you trying to build attention or not. And then who's that attention for? My favorite strategy when it comes to short or long term videos is regardless which one is I love putting those in front of my database, and the people I already know, the more content you create consistently over time, and put in front of your Facebook accounts, your own email list, and use that as an excuse to stay relevant. Well, ultimately, the more business you're gonna track, because 10 to 15% of that business, well guess what they're moving 10 to 15% of the views you have on social media, the engagement, the comments, they're moving, but 100% of the views, comments and engagement on social know someone they could refer you to. So the key no matter what strategy you decide, is ultimately just consistency. You know, I see people create videos for six months, and they get bored, and then they stop. And then they come back and like oh, it's not working like it did. It's because you screwed up that consistency. Let's switch gears here and talk about it from this perspective. If you were going to start

direct mail, farming a neighborhood you want it to grow in, and let's ju

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What is up ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the webinar. And let me tell you, there's nothing worse in the real estate business than when someone forgets what it is you do for a living or better yet didn't even know. So whether you're a lender, real estate agent investor, basically anyone in a referral based business, these principles are going to apply. But this is going to be the case for why we create content consistently that builds our brand. And we keep our content in front of people that are responsible for sending us new business, repeat business and referrals. The more content we create, the easier it is, and the more marketable to attract business. And the more marketable, you become as a real estate agent. If you guys have not met me before, my name is Mike way, boss, I've been licensed since 2002. I'm one of those dinosaurs in the real estate industry. So I'm recovering realtor and broker owner. And over the last five years, we've been helping real estate agents create a whole lot of content, mainly in the form of video, we script we added, we distribute video, and we've done over 2000, maybe even 2500 different videos for people spread out around the country, when it comes to content creation. I'm the founder of referral suite, which is a software platform that allows it makes content creation easier. I will show you guys what that is at the end of this training. And for those of you that want to pursue or look at that more advanced if you're having trouble creating content, I would love you to join our community. But I've been in this business for a long time guys. I've had brokerages teams, and I know what works and what doesn't. And what I'm going to share with you today is what I've learned over the last 20 plus years of in this business and how I've applied creating content, literally every single real estate agent I've ever worked with in my brokerages on my teams, the ones I'm working with now across the country, and everyone has the same results because I believe that real estate is nothing more than a giant popularity contest. And in a business where 87% of agents fail.

I believe that's very simple. I think they're chasing the wrong people from the get go. So what we're gonna start about is, how do you avoid the peaks and valleys especially as we approach a recession within the real estate business, because when you have a large personal brand, it is recession proof despite what the market does, you will always have clients. And this is the reason why you want to focus your time on where the highest return on investment is going to be. It's not going to be through cold calling, it's not through door knocking. And it's not through implementing the latest, greatest technology AI or superduper website or the best auto responder with text messaging automation. All of that stuff you guys, when it comes to business, in my opinion, is just noise. I love that stuff. But I'm talking about building the base of your real estate business. And the reality is the vast majority of business is right in front of you. These charts are from a NAR National Association of Realtors, and this was talking about where sellers found their real estate agent 39% were referred from a friend 24% They used in the past that right there is 63% without going through the rest of sources of business right here. And it's no different for buyers. Buyers, you see over 53% are referred or they used in the past. But there's still a lot more attraction based items right here. And I'm gonna summarize those off for you. And here's what these charts said 51% of business on average comes from the former referrals 12% from repeat business 3% of transactions arouse from strategic alliances as like a mortgage broker or a real company,

you know, referring you out 10% For signage, believe it or not 4% from an open house. In both cases, over 74% of people come from people you already know, or transactions. I mean closed comes from people you already know used in the past, or that you've personally met, right? So what is the most important thing to do in real estate? And it's to stay in front of the people you already know, like and trust because everybody lives somewhere. The problem though, that we all have is, well, what do I send them? How do I stay in touch with them? Because I don't know how to do anything else other than just talk about interest rates, real estate or turn back the clock emails. This is why we create content folks. So what do you think happens when you go, Mia are out of sight out of mind? What happens when you stop communicating with your database? Well, they stopped sending you business and they keep they start forgetting what it is that you do for a living. And just because

you don't have to talk about real estate but you can't not. You can't stop talking at the same time you see, as an independent real estate agent or lender, you're in charge of your own personal brand. Your brokerage is going to do anything for you. Therefore it's going to rely on you to constantly build your own personal brand because it's not your databases job to remember what you do for a living it is your job.

To remind them to and this is why we create content. See when we're creating content, that's the way I'm going to explain it to you right here in the rest of this training is we're not doing it to generate leads. Well, we are doing it to for and we're creating content is to generate attention and notoriety so that when people think of the term real estate, they associate our name or our brand with it, that's it. We're not fighting for leads, we fight for the attention of our friends, our family, our database in our local community, because Top of Mind brand awareness, or attention equals conversations, which eventually equals referrals, and over 80% of people will hire the first agent they speak with.

This is not theory, when I'm explaining to you guys, this is mathematical, because of these stats. And these are what I want you to get out of anything, if you're going to remember anything from this training, and that's 10 to 15% of the population moves each and every year, but 100% of the population know someone they can refer a realtor to. This means 10 to 15% of your Facebook friends, your IG followers, 10 to 15% of your email list 10 to 15% of the people you walk across in the grocery store, or you sit next to at your kids sporting events, they're moving this year, but 100% of the people that you know, or come into contact with, know someone that they can refer business to. And that is why attention is so important in this business, especially in a referral based business. So if you do the math, people move every six to nine years. So I want you to just to look at your own network. If you have 1000 friends and your Facebook friends list, well 10 to 15% of them are moving, that means 100 to 150 people of them are moving, but all 1000 of them have a referral for you. Now, if people are going to move every six to nine years, do the math, there's always a percentage of people within your existing relationships that are going to be moving and most won't even know it yet. There are these things called Life Events, marriages, new kids having a baby, getting a divorce, losing a job, these are good and bad life events. But when a life event happens, people move and when they do 80% of them are going to hire the first person they meet with. Wouldn't it be nice if that your name comes to mind immediately upon, you know, anyone thinking of the term real estate or lending? Well, that's what happens when you create a whole lot of content. And what we're talking about here, guys, is marketing versus advertising. We're not talking about creating content to say come buy my stuff, or interest rate, buy, buy, buy, sell, buy, sell, buy, sell, because when we're always selling people start tuning us out. But when we create engaging content that reminds people, we're in real estate at the same time, it creates engagement, and we stay in front of those people, we start attracting business. And what I'm talking about is creating content consistently, not just through social media, social media is a part of it. But creating content consistently through social media, video, email, and even using direct mail, to keep our brand at the forefront of people and literally be everywhere all the time. This is what it takes to build a fully attraction based business. But we don't, where most people fail is this is that when we're creating content, we're usually creating it or when people immediately result to start creating it in the in the form of a sales message. No, we don't need to sell our services on online or through any of the content we create. We need to add value with the content we create so that people think of us first. That's it, okay. And when we're marketing and creating content, we're not creating content to sell people directly who received that content a house, we're creating content to receive their referral business, because everybody can refer you business. And when you start chasing referrals versus direct business, you start telling stories, alright, the other way where you fail to be consistent is it or people just fail to be consistent as we're most fail? See, co

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So how do you attract new business, you constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas a real estate marketing. This podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started.

What's up ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the real estate marketing dude, podcast, what we're doing here today focuses, we're going to talk about how you run a local celebrity brand. Start loving on your clients, not just loving on your clients, but obsessively loving on your clients, and how and why that turns into business. Before we introduce our guests, I'm gonna paint the picture very, very clearly for you guys. And

the client experience matters period. All right, people don't remember what you did from remember how you made them feel. And the highest likelihood of generating more business in a real estate transaction is during the transaction with a client. The number one goal of each transaction that you're doing when you're working with a client is not to sell the house. That's the number three goals. The number one goal is to first impress the client so you can lock them in for a long time and repeat business. Number two goal is to create spin off business from that transaction so you can make more money. And then the number three goals actually sell the house and close the deal in that order. Now, what I want you to challenge you guys with today is what did you do during the course of the transaction that people actually remembered? Because that's what we're gonna be talking about today. The reality is that 80% of buyers forget their agents name within six months of closing the transaction. And in a business that's dominated by 80 plus percent, being referral. Using the past or people you personally met, it is impossible to run a long term real estate business without running a business and building a brand and creating an experience that people come back to. Can you imagine

going

to like a Michelin restaurant

and having a shitty experience?

No, that's why you're paying $800 A plate. And people will gladly pay for things and will gladly refer things that they enjoy that other people will enjoy too. So what I want to dial in today, so much is about the customer experience and how you're conducting yourself throughout the course of the transaction. And that's what our guest today is going to chat about. So without further ado, we're gonna introduce our guests coming straight out of Sioux Falls. I think it's South Dakota, South Dakota. Amy stock burger. Hi, Amy. How are you? I'm great. Thanks for having me. Mike. Why don't you tell our listeners a little bit who you are, who the hell you are, what you do and where you're at. And we're gonna get into this questions about what you're doing with your VIP program that had you guys close it what 159 closings last year? So like, we did 559 559 Whoa, 400 Okay, yeah. Go out again. Introduce yourself a little bit. Yeah, I mean, me stockbroker, ami stockbroker real estate. So I'm a broker owner of a team ridge. So we still run as a team. I've been doing this for 22 years, my husband and I run this together, we're family owned, we have a tenure of our agents of about an average of six years. So we have a system and strategy to keep our process sticky for agents as well as a lifetime leads strategy that keeps our business as a referral based business. So working with the clients that we want to work with, they don't drag us down. And having that referral, this base business being the the far, far screaming majority of our business, providing lifetime home support, which you said it. It's before, during and after. That's what we really excel at. And that's what my whole model is built around our foundation is being there for our clients before, during and after. Because the before and the after are oftentimes more important than the during it's that relationship base. Yes. And that's a more one of my brokerages core core values is that we're relationship based people because humans crave that they crave that relationship and know that they're being cared for and taken care of for life. And by doing that, we turn our clients into referring machines. So I actually termed the the term lifetime lead strategy because that's what I built my foundation on is that it uses unique propositions to stay top of mind as our clients lifetime Home Support Team, which results in them being our lifetime referral partner. I like it. Um, I actually met Amy, and I didn't know who she got, I get we get I tell you guys every week you pitch on the show. Oh, really? Sure. We're gonna show most we want to sell the shit. Great. If you have good content, you come on the show. But I knew Amy from somewhere. And the

second time I talked to her I was like, Hey, I know you from somewhere and Amy's in Sioux Falls and Ramsey if you're listening to this, I'm calling you out right now.

We're doing videos for a guy in in Sioux Falls. Ramsey we blew his shit up. We got him picked up on the news within 10 weeks of starting video. He got picked up on the new station brand new agent crushed it and then he stopped doing video. Listen, dude

Whatever brings you to the promised land you never stopped doing, you double down on that, because this gal is now kicking his ass, because she just started doing consistently and she got into the game probably eight months after him. And you just blew him away because you started creating more content and all that. So we're going to talk about your content creation a little bit. But hey, I gotta call you out Ramsey because I told you what not to do. And now Amy is eating your lunch. So don't let her eat your lunch anymore. Okay. All right. So let's get down to the work can work for my brokerage, let's go together, come over here. That could also be an option. All right. So what we what's so impressive with Amy's doing you guys is that she really understands customer experience. So we're gonna dial this in. And Amy has not only several different profit centers around the transaction in addition to commission, but she positions herself as like the one stop shop and so many real estate agents say this Oh, I'm a one stop shop. No, you're not. Here's what a one stop shop is okay. You have the attorneys, you have the contractors, you have places to buy heating lamps, you have rugs, you have carpet cleaning, you have movers, you have this, that's a one stop shop, like actually having every resource surrounded around home remedy is the one stop shop agents who claim their one stop shop, a lot of them are just like, oh yeah, I help people buy, sell and rent. I'm a one stop shop.

That makes sense. 100%. So how are you guys just one stop shop, I want you to tell everyone from yesterday and I want you to walk through and I'm a buyer or I'm a seller, what's the difference between you and everyone else so everyone understands what your unique selling proposition is? Okay. Besides being the most specialized experts and connecting buyers and sellers, investors Reapers within our market, we also have a lifetime Home Support Foundation. And what that means is our clients get access to our VIP Club, which is one of the pillars of our lifetime home support. We have a lot of pillars of them, but that's one of them. So one of the pillars is that our moving trucks, they get free access to our moving trucks buy or sell one time free access for life. We have a enclosed trailer as well. We have moving supplies, there's a pain point and moving no matter what price point you're in, whether you're in a 2 million, or you're in that 200,000. So I have people who are sold houses to 20 years ago who come back and use my trucks to go buy a couch, they don't want to pay 100 bucks for on a $10,000 couch so they get access to our moving trucks. But when I put that moving truck VIP part into our pillar into my business, I also monetized it right away. So I make money off of my truck right away even though it's being used by my clients. That's the foremost the fourth most important part of that filler is I get client experience out of that it has the second part is I'm making revenue on it. And then right next to that is my market share and getting because my branding is out there on everything. So my trucks are on the road, they get 600 impressions per mile. And it's it's monetized going you bought a truck, moving truck. I've seen people buy moving trucks and then usually like the time they let the clients use it as either just part of the move. But you actually keep this moving truck open for any c

Today we are looking at another way to combat this recession; expanding beyond your current market and your comfort zone. Whether that's expanding to neighborhood, city or state, get out of your comfort zone. It might be scary, but this is the perfect opportunity for you to expand your brand and your business.

Scott is the broker and owner of Finish Line Realty, an independent brokerage that serves the Greater Louisville area as well as Nolin Lake in Central Kentucky. He also produces Real Estate Distilled, host some of the biggest names in real estate.

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So how do you track new business, you constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas to real estate marketing. And this podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started. What's up ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the real estate marketing, dude, podcast, it is the end of the year, folks. We are long depending when you listen to this recording, you're at the very beginning of next year or the very end of 2022. And one of the things we always do around this time of year is figure out well, what are we going to do next year, this is a time where people get resolutions time where people make commitments, set goals, start planning, but actually, in actuality, very rarely does that actual initial goal get followed up on there's a lot of change in the real estate industry right now. So you know, I'm dedicating the next quarter did literally talking about what the hell you should be doing are we can you be doing because we've been spoiled the last five, the world's be honest, 10 years, we've had the longest running market ever, of just nothing but list sell lists out, it's been pretty damn easy, guys. Well, things are about to get rough if they haven't been rough already. And one of the things you're gonna need do is sharpen your skill sets. So one of the things we want to focus on today is why you should go and attend. Get out of your comfort zone, get out of your city, get out of your state, get out of people you see every day, because realistically, you need to surround yourself around people that know how to navigate this market. And I highly doubt it's someone even within your own office, you need to get outside of your office and start thinking outside the box. So who we have here today is he's all over social media. His name's Mr. Scott hack. He's the Creator. And he was the guy who built the real estate distilled Conference, which is really cool conference. In the Midwest, that happens each and every year. I spoke at it a few years ago, I think right prior to COVID. But we're going to talk about events and why you need to go to them and why you should. I'm a big fan of this. So without further ado, let's go ahead and introduce our guest, Mr. Scott hack. Scott, how are you today?

Very good, man. Thanks for having me on, I really appreciate the opportunity to share with your audience and talk about one of my passions and events and how you can make it a part of your business and actually, you know, implement things and make them beneficial to you. So I really appreciate the opportunity.

You have you started doing this event, because you were just like an event junkie, right?

I mean, part of it, there wasn't a conference that I really felt like that was a fit for, for me as an independent broker in the areas that I wanted to be in. And, you know, it's events are either put together by a coaching company, or a software company is already you know, the big maybe you guys company. Yeah, you know, but you know, it's, there's hard, it's hard to find one that's put together that doesn't necessarily have something that is, it's like a loss leader for right. So you're coming there to see, you're going to learn. And yes, there is definitely beneficial to go to ones where other people are using the same systems as you, you can find people that are doing the same workflows as you. But also just having something like you said outside the box, people operating their businesses differently, is really what I was trying to accomplish and put together a network of people that I could turn to on a random Tuesday with a question.

When back in 2006, Spot seven, right when the market started to turn, I was in this situation. We're in Chicago and these things, short sales started to come across my desk because I used to rent an office next door to an attorney and the attorney was too damn lazy to negotiate a short sale. So he gave them to me. And when you get your first short sale file, you're like, what the hell you're gonna do? Yeah, at that time in Chicago, in the Midwest is always a year behind the coast, right? It starts in California, then it just comes over if it goes from west to east guys, and this is where I think you're gonna see in this market, but at that time, no one knew in Chicago knew to fuck a short sale was, however, back in California at that time, they're transacting, they're coming big, you know. And I started going to these conferences. And I remember being the guy in the back of the room at the conference. And I remember, Jeff Watson was one of the speakers at him. I saw the short sale kit at one of the speakers at him. And I sat there in the back of that conference, I said, I'm gonna be fucking leading this conference with me, I'm gonna be speaking at this conference, I'm gonna have my own conference, I'm gonna get 300 people to come to it. Not only did I end up learning techniques, but it was because I was willing to step outside the box and we became the largest short sale team in the country at that time. 25 To 35 closed a month. We're negotiating all over the country, and we had several different streams of income lined up. It was actually the best years of my career before I crashed again. And it was only because I was willing to step outside the box. When I go to a conference. My goal is to go ahead and soak up the information that I get. But what realistically happens is other opportunities I'm living and seeing Diego right now, as a result of a $15,000 mastermind I signed up for in 2013. And the person I'm partners with now happens to live in San Diego. And that's why I live here today all started from a conference. So I'm telling you guys, I'm living speaking proof of why you need to go out and go to these conferences, to have the biggest stories of life changing stories in my life have actually come as a result of them. Scott, what's your experience?

Yeah, 100%. So the people who were putting together conferences, you know, I work really hard to get speakers like yourself to come and share their stories and put together actionable tips that attendees can can put into their business. But you have to remember, for every person that's on the stage, there's another 1520 30 people in the audience that also have information that they can they can share with you, and they can impart on you and you can put into your business and the conversations that are happening between the speakers that are taking place at happy hour and at dinners and lunches. Those are just as valuable. It's what's happening on the stage. So yes, definitely going into it with an open mind and not having any preconceived notions of what you're going to do or what you're going to learn. Just being willing to take it all in and then figuring that out as you're going through the process.

But how do you answer the question? Hey, Scott, things are getting tight. Right now, I haven't sold a house, the markets turning sales are down 40%. If I go to a conference, that's going to cost me by today's calculation, $450 for the ticket, six to $800 for the room, and then all the drinks, which depending on how big of an alcoholic you are, might be a big budget. So how do you answer that question to them? I think I know what you're gonna say. But go ahead, go for it.

Yeah, I think I think one of the easiest things right now is, keep in mind that every single person that's in the audience is a potential referral partner. So that's just number one, right off the bat, like picking up a transaction from someone else that's there. It's one of the reasons why I started real estate to steal is to build a referral network as an independent broker, I typically am pulling in five to six referrals into my little Louisville, Kentucky market where there's not a ton of people transferring in. So you know, if you're in a better city, or there's not as much competition on social media for those referrals, you're gonna do better than that. And your, your breakevens basically, you know, one good transaction and putting money in your pocket. So even if you pick up one referral, you know, over the next two years, you're you're back at breakeven on an event like this, not to mention all the other tips and things that you might put into your business, that's going to make it even bigger and better.

I this morning. So I'm, I'm going to, you're like talking me into it during this podcast. But so I'm debating joini

Today we are talking about how investors are handling this recession. Like agents, they have to adapt to survive this market, and with the right strategy, thrive.

Martin is the founder and host of the Stroudsburg Real Estate Investors club. With his leadership the group has gone from zero to over three hundred members in less than two years. He currently manages and operates a Real Estate Investing firm operating over five million dollars in assets and he helps investors get above average returns by investing passively in multifamily Real Estate with him and his team.

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So how do you track new business, you constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas to real estate marketing. And this podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started.

What's up ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the real estate marketing dude, podcast, folks, where we chat about today is how you diversify. When the market stops transacting by 33%. What are you gonna do during this recession, this is gonna be the best opportunity that most of us will see to actually start building wealth and you don't make a lot of money when everyone else is buying houses, you make a lot of money when no one else is, because that's where the opportunity is. And if you're not adopting the mindset of becoming a real estate problem solver, right now, people are going to be eating your lunch. So what I wanted to do today was bring on a investor, not any investor, Latino investor. That's why we got on the show here, because we support our Latinos on this show. But what we're going to talk about guys is sort of how to start thinking outside the box, here's the reality, right? You're gonna, there's gonna be a lot of opportunities. And when the market shifts like there's, there's gonna be recession, people are going to be losing their houses, their jobs, and other things. And they're going to need help. And this is why every real estate investor in the country is self attaining on the sidelines right now. They're not getting in yet, but they're just sitting there. They're putting on their helmet. They're strapping on their chin strap, and they're putting in their mouthpiece, because they're about to go to freakin feast. And that's why these markets are so exciting. And real estate agents, lenders, you guys are in the best position to take advantage of this different stuff. So we're gonna get into that a little bit further right now. But without further ado, let's go ahead and introduce our guest, Mr. Martin. Perdomo. A Superdome. All right. That's correct. Port demo. All right, Martin, why don't you go ahead and tell everyone Hello, and tell him a little bit about yourself. Hey, everyone. Thanks. Thanks for having me, Mike.

Really appreciate it's an honor to be here on your show and talking to your audience. I've been investing in real estate since 2007. Man I first fell in love with real estate. When I was 1616. I grew up in New York City, born and raised in Washington Heights, and those of you that are familiar with New York, that's the hood man, it's rough in the 80s and 90s. And at 16th on my 16th on my 16th birthday. My mom kicked me out for the ninth time she said it says she got home she kicked me out. And I quickly realized my sleeping in trained and and rooftops and and parks in New York City. And then the beaches in Far Rockaway Beach, that human beings needed something really important that shelter and food, right. And that's when I first fell in love with real estate, I made a decision unconsciously that I was going to own a lot of real estate, so I never have to go through that pain again. And that's what I've done. So that was, you know, that was my debt. When I made that decision. I bought my first investment I bought my first real estate piece of real estate when I was 21.

And I bought my first prop my first investment in 2007. So I was a mortgage broker. And you know, I was the guy giving people those all those bad loans. subprime loans. I was countrywide days baby. Right. I remember that remember countrywide and all those never, never before in the history of real estate has a college graduate at 21 years old had the ability to make 750 to a million dollars a year just right out of college at their first entry level job. That's the type of market it was for those you guys that weren't around back then. It was crazy man. It was we were making so much money. I remember

Mike being in my conference room with my sales team and telling them I didn't know what I knew now, right? Obviously, and I remember telling my people say, Hey, man, we're giving these these loans these 300,000 loan to someone making $40,000 a year. Fundamentally, it just doesn't make sense. But I wasn't intelligent enough. I wasn't smart enough astute enough to know how to look for the opportunities. I didn't know how to prepare. Like you said, when we started earlier.

The real estate investors are salivating right? They're chomping at the bit right for the opportunities that are gonna come.

And you know, last year I was saying the same thing like this is not sustainable people offering me $60,000 over asking over the weekend, like put a property in the market and it's like I'm like this shit doesn't make sense. Like it's like deja vu right?

It's not gonna sustain long term. When I say one thing real quick why he says that you guys gonna support point I mean cut you off. The 90% of the markets never seen a market like this. Like the agents out there. 90% of them never been through this market. Because 90% of licensed real estate agents have never seen a shift. Alright, we've been on a

bull market for 12 1314 fucking years. Right so no one knows what to expect, including some of the top we have one of the top agents here in San Diego, I got a little Facebook's back. You're listening. I'm talking about you, bro.

The market crashed up. It's like the top agent and Sandy Berg's ever gonna crash been doing business seven, eight years? Do you guys all have egg on your face? For anyone who's saying the market is crashing? Whenever it goes up like that it is unsustainable In today's internet. Today's it's not a supply and demand issue? I don't think so. They're people want to buy houses, even though they're they're overpaying for them.

It's an affordability issue. Right now that that said, that's one of the reasons of why we decided so I told you told your audience earlier we flip houses, right? So we decided our strategy now is when we flip, right? Because you got to be careful when you're flipping houses in a market like this.

What you're doing, you got to really understand the data. And that is one of the things that you know, I learned from 2007 After buying my first, like 100 bought my first investment 100,000 I was $100,000 underwater, within two years. Pricing property was worth I bought it for 272 75. Same property was worth 179 Two years later, and you bought in oh seven. So you got caught your pants down? Yeah, man. Yes, sir. However, I just saw a comp of that property burned out. I had college kids and they burned it down. And that saved me. But I just saw a comp, I just bought a triplex not to combat a month ago. And the appraisal comes in here. He's like, Hey, what are you gonna bring that in at? And he's like, I don't know yet. But here's my comps. I just saw come for a property two doors down from there. Same like exact square footage of that property sold for 385. So my lesson, right? Is Real Estate is very forgiving long term. Right? If don't wait to the good old saying don't wait to buy real estate, buy real estate. Don't wait. So even if I would have hung in there 14 years later, I would have I would have I would have turned around to give up. Yeah, yeah. So so so if you know, it's about that mindset of having that long term thinking in terms of long term and not just right now, when you flip properties,

like some of the things that one of the strategies I do, if you don't know what you're doing, and a lot of the pretenders are already out, right? You got Redfin just left you got glass door, left

door,

or whatever their name or open door, whatever the name of that, like glass or that's, that's a really good way to

they all got out. And I remember talking to my team Mike, last year saying, you know, those guys can compete with us. And the reason I say that those guys can compete with us is because while they have virtually unlimited funds, right, they have all this money. We're intimate in this market. Can you imagine those of us that are seasoned? Alright, think about this for a second. Those of us that are seasoned investors.

What is the toughest part of the rehab process is dealing with those freaking contractors, right? That is the toughest part, right? Those contractors will eat your freakin lunch. And can you imagine what contractor

Today we are talking about how investors are handling this recession. Like agents, they have to adapt to survive this market, and with the right strategy, thrive.

Martin is the founder and host of the Stroudsburg Real Estate Investors club. With his leadership the group has gone from zero to over three hundred members in less than two years. He currently manages and operates a Real Estate Investing firm operating over five million dollars in assets and he helps investors get above average returns by investing passively in multifamily Real Estate with him and his team.

• How do you make sure everyone knows your name?
• How are top agents thriving during a recession?
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So how do you track new business, you constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas to real estate marketing. And this podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started.

What's up ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the real estate marketing dude, podcast, folks, where we chat about today is how you diversify. When the market stops transacting by 33%. What are you gonna do during this recession, this is gonna be the best opportunity that most of us will see to actually start building wealth and you don't make a lot of money when everyone else is buying houses, you make a lot of money when no one else is, because that's where the opportunity is. And if you're not adopting the mindset of becoming a real estate problem solver, right now, people are going to be eating your lunch. So what I wanted to do today was bring on a investor, not any investor, Latino investor. That's why we got on the show here, because we support our Latinos on this show. But what we're going to talk about guys is sort of how to start thinking outside the box, here's the reality, right? You're gonna, there's gonna be a lot of opportunities. And when the market shifts like there's, there's gonna be recession, people are going to be losing their houses, their jobs, and other things. And they're going to need help. And this is why every real estate investor in the country is self attaining on the sidelines right now. They're not getting in yet, but they're just sitting there. They're putting on their helmet. They're strapping on their chin strap, and they're putting in their mouthpiece, because they're about to go to freakin feast. And that's why these markets are so exciting. And real estate agents, lenders, you guys are in the best position to take advantage of this different stuff. So we're gonna get into that a little bit further right now. But without further ado, let's go ahead and introduce our guest, Mr. Martin. Perdomo. A Superdome. All right. That's correct. Port demo. All right, Martin, why don't you go ahead and tell everyone Hello, and tell him a little bit about yourself. Hey, everyone. Thanks. Thanks for having me, Mike.

Really appreciate it's an honor to be here on your show and talking to your audience. I've been investing in real estate since 2007. Man I first fell in love with real estate. When I was 1616. I grew up in New York City, born and raised in Washington Heights, and those of you that are familiar with New York, that's the hood man, it's rough in the 80s and 90s. And at 16th on my 16th on my 16th birthday. My mom kicked me out for the ninth time she said it says she got home she kicked me out. And I quickly realized my sleeping in trained and and rooftops and and parks in New York City. And then the beaches in Far Rockaway Beach, that human beings needed something really important that shelter and food, right. And that's when I first fell in love with real estate, I made a decision unconsciously that I was going to own a lot of real estate, so I never have to go through that pain again. And that's what I've done. So that was, you know, that was my debt. When I made that decision. I bought my first investment I bought my first real estate piece of real estate when I was 21.

And I bought my first prop my first investment in 2007. So I was a mortgage broker. And you know, I was the guy giving people those all those bad loans. subprime loans. I was countrywide days baby. Right. I remember that remember countrywide and all those never, never before in the history of real estate has a college graduate at 21 years old had the ability to make 750 to a million dollars a year just right out of college at their first entry level job. That's the type of market it was for those you guys that weren't around back then. It was crazy man. It was we were making so much money. I remember

Mike being in my conference room with my sales team and telling them I didn't know what I knew now, right? Obviously, and I remember telling my people say, Hey, man, we're giving these these loans these 300,000 loan to someone making $40,000 a year. Fundamentally, it just doesn't make sense. But I wasn't intelligent enough. I wasn't smart enough astute enough to know how to look for the opportunities. I didn't know how to prepare. Like you said, when we started earlier.

The real estate investors are salivating right? They're chomping at the bit right for the opportunities that are gonna come.

And you know, last year I was saying the same thing like this is not sustainable people offering me $60,000 over asking over the weekend, like put a property in the market and it's like I'm like this shit doesn't make sense. Like it's like deja vu right?

It's not gonna sustain long term. When I say one thing real quick why he says that you guys gonna support point I mean cut you off. The 90% of the markets never seen a market like this. Like the agents out there. 90% of them never been through this market. Because 90% of licensed real estate agents have never seen a shift. Alright, we've been on a

bull market for 12 1314 fucking years. Right so no one knows what to expect, including some of the top we have one of the top agents here in San Diego, I got a little Facebook's back. You're listening. I'm talking about you, bro.

The market crashed up. It's like the top agent and Sandy Berg's ever gonna crash been doing business seven, eight years? Do you guys all have egg on your face? For anyone who's saying the market is crashing? Whenever it goes up like that it is unsustainable In today's internet. Today's it's not a supply and demand issue? I don't think so. They're people want to buy houses, even though they're they're overpaying for them.

It's an affordability issue. Right now that that said, that's one of the reasons of why we decided so I told you told your audience earlier we flip houses, right? So we decided our strategy now is when we flip, right? Because you got to be careful when you're flipping houses in a market like this.

What you're doing, you got to really understand the data. And that is one of the things that you know, I learned from 2007 After buying my first, like 100 bought my first investment 100,000 I was $100,000 underwater, within two years. Pricing property was worth I bought it for 272 75. Same property was worth 179 Two years later, and you bought in oh seven. So you got caught your pants down? Yeah, man. Yes, sir. However, I just saw a comp of that property burned out. I had college kids and they burned it down. And that saved me. But I just saw a comp, I just bought a triplex not to combat a month ago. And the appraisal comes in here. He's like, Hey, what are you gonna bring that in at? And he's like, I don't know yet. But here's my comps. I just saw come for a property two doors down from there. Same like exact square footage of that property sold for 385. So my lesson, right? Is Real Estate is very forgiving long term. Right? If don't wait to the good old saying don't wait to buy real estate, buy real estate. Don't wait. So even if I would have hung in there 14 years later, I would have I would have I would have turned around to give up. Yeah, yeah. So so so if you know, it's about that mindset of having that long term thinking in terms of long term and not just right now, when you flip properties,

like some of the things that one of the strategies I do, if you don't know what you're doing, and a lot of the pretenders are already out, right? You got Redfin just left you got glass door, left

door,

or whatever their name or open door, whatever the name of that, like glass or that's, that's a really good way to

they all got out. And I remember talking to my team Mike, last year saying, you know, those guys can compete with us. And the reason I say that those guys can compete with us is because while they have virtually unlimited funds, right, they have all this money. We're intimate in this market. Can you imagine those of us that are seasoned? Alright, think about this for a second. Those of us that are seasoned investors.

What is the toughest part of the rehab process is dealing with those freaking contractors, right? That is the toughest part, right? Those contractors will eat your freakin lunch. And can you imagine what contractors if they try that shit with us? And we're local, we're here we have boots on the ground. We have a te

Today we have a returning guest, all the way back from our first ever episode! We are bringing the in the big guns to help you survive this recession. Most agents have never seen this type of market but some of us have not only made it through, but leveraged it to put us ahead. Find out how.

Michael Hellickson sold real estate for over 20 years, listing and selling over 100 homes/month, and carrying over 750 active and pending listings at one point. He began his real estate career in 1991 and has been among the top 1% of all agents nationally, before he even graduated high school! At the pinnacle of his sales career, Michael and his team were literally #1 Nationwide, out of over 1,000,000 real estate agents/teams!

• How do you make sure everyone knows your name?
• How are top agents thriving during a recession?
• Why you need to be making content and developing a brand.

Check out Michael's Website

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The Listing Advocate (Earn more listings!)

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Transcript:

So how do you attract new business? You constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas a real estate marketing. This podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust, and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started.

What's up ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the real estate marketing, dude, podcasts, we're going to do a little bit of a throwback. Today, this show was started in 2014. And I had no idea what I was doing. I used to pay someone $750 a month just to publish for podcasts for me, which is insane today. And all they would, they would just publish it. But you know, I didn't know what I was doing. And honestly, with content creation, you just sort of figure it out, you get better as you go today. I could have I could talk here for 60 minutes. And I don't even know what I'm talking about with my guests yet. I have an idea. But that's how skilled I've gotten in podcasting. And they're, and they're one out over time and so differently with video, guys, when you want to build your own brand with video, you have to do it consistently. And you'll get better as you go just like anything else. So the reason why I'm bringing that story up, though, is because the very first episode we ever did was with our guest today, and this was in 2014. And it was probably a terrible, terrible, terrible episode. But we did it right. And this is even before he started his big thing, he was just starting this at that time. So it's gonna be good show we're gonna catch back up and most importantly, today's what I want to focus on. And I know that a lot of you guys are scared, it's the fourth quarter. And regardless of what the market is doing, the fourth quarter is always a time when you work on your business and get ready for next year. Right while the market Christmas Thanksgiving, things typically slow down a little bit during this time of year, it's okay. But you don't slow down to you start working on your business. And that's what we're gonna focus on on this week's episode. So without further ado, we're gonna go ahead and introduce our guests, Mr. Michael hellicksen. From club wealth. What's up, dude?

What's up, brother? It's good to see you. I've heard them a little hurt when he said, you know that first episode probably suck. I'm like, wait,

I was talking about my performance, not yours.

But that was a long time. And you said that was 2014? Is that right? Yeah.

2014 was the very first podcast episode, which brings it to about eight years of doing this almost every single Saturday publishing the show, books. That's what content creation does. There's a reason why we got at 1.4. Now, maybe 1.5 million downloads is because we're consistent with content. But that's another show. And if you need help with that, I want you to visit referral suite.com Because we'll help you be consistent with your personal branding. But this is not about me today. This is about Michael hellicksen. And we're going to talk about what you guys need to start doing. If you guys don't know, Mike, let me give you a little bit of introduction, if you will. Michael used to be one of the top agents in the country. And today, his son who was How old is he? He's 21 years old, I saw this kid grow up and he was he was 12 When I first met him his son, okay, this is the type of coaching Michael does his son just closed or just sign how many listings in his first year in real

estate? While he's in his first 11 months, he just didn't number 91 Last night. And that's not counting his team. That's just him. And he's got people on his team. He's got one of his team members. He's got, like 65 or 70 listings this year.

Not kids 20 years old. Do you know how long it took me to get that far like what a hustler. It's very impressive. And what we're gonna do, let's talk about what Austin's doing, and where the opportunities are going to be in the next 12 months. We chatted a little bit before we press record here. And I really want to play in a clearer picture. I think the combined experience between Michael and myself, dude, how many transactions have we done and how many years in the history this is like dinosaur Haven this is like 75 years of real estate experience, brokerages teams, so like you guys have a lot of knowledge right here. So we're gonna go deep, and we're going to talk about what's going to happen. I think we're gonna have a good pulse on this today. And this is just a prediction. Okay, I'm not a I'm not scientist. I don't have ESP. Oh my God, I don't know what's going to happen. This is our opinion. So alright, so

yeah, full disclosure. I've only been in real estate industry now for 32 years. I believe it is something that I do. So it's it was 1991 when I started selling real estate, and I was in high school back then. So I'm not exactly an old guys let's not go there. But that being said, you're right you know, my my claim to fame is at one point in time I was the number one agent on planet Earth and was closing 120 280 transactions a month at a time when most people the number two and number three combined. We're doing less than half that and and we here we are carrying about 750 listings and active and pending status that point. Now that's only relevant to the people that are watching this in terms of you know, why should you here listen to what I have to say and I you know, I think that in general in real estate, guys, there's too much Bad advice going around out there, particularly from people that have never sold real estate or never sold real estate at a high level before. So we want to be really careful about who we take advice from. Now, to Mike's point, yeah, we can't guarantee what's going to happen in the marketplace. But you know, Mike and I have been through a cycle or two. And we've seen this a few times. And you know, some people are scared right now. And some people should be scared right now, there's definitely people out there that that should be thinking to themselves, well, what the freak, you know, what's, what am I going to do? How am I going to survive this and I will tell you right now, if you have been selling real estate, if you if you were not selling real estate prior to 2011, you don't know what's about to happen. You don't you haven't been through a tough market yet. You've only been through the best market Mike and I and other people like us I've ever known in our lifetimes. In this last decade,

90% of the aging population has never seen a market like this, which is also a lot of their team leads a lot of the brokers and a lot of people leading them. Okay, guys, so pay attention to this episode. Because a lot of people don't know what's going to happen. I'll give you a couple stories. Like I see some big names in real estate. And this is how this is just how new I'm not gonna name any names. But I'll see a bunch of big names in real estate. This is like back in like April, right? May all markets never gonna crash never going to crash. Oh, that's never gonna happen. I'm like, Dude, we're gonna go down. 20% Oh, no, don't ever say that. You're not going to crash. Dude, we're gonna go down. 20% you want to call me out on social? Okay, let's go. Alright, who's got an egg on their face? So, like, you have to realize what's going to happen. But I don't mean to be doom and gloom, because these are the most exciting times, right? These are the times that people realistically what needs to happen is the real estate industry needs to flush out. There's a lot of people out there and the average agent, I think, as of like, September, September of this year, you probably heard a stat. Only, like 90% of the agents only sold four homes. So I'm like, Dude, how the hell do you even survive off of selling four homes a year? And better yet? How can you only sell four homes a year we have this thing called social media? Right? Like 10 to 15% of your friends on social are moving? How do you only sell four homes a year unless you're closet secret agent. So I want to let's start off this combo with this 2014. When we first did this podcast, I was trying to figure out what the hell was going to come next in the business right? I was in the short sales. I was not I called up Michael at the time. This is eight years ago. And we get on a call wit

Today we have a returning guest, all the way back from our first ever episode! We are bringing the in the big guns to help you survive this recession. Most agents have never seen this type of market but some of us have not only made it through, but leveraged it to put us ahead. Find out how.

Michael Hellickson sold real estate for over 20 years, listing and selling over 100 homes/month, and carrying over 750 active and pending listings at one point. He began his real estate career in 1991 and has been among the top 1% of all agents nationally, before he even graduated high school! At the pinnacle of his sales career, Michael and his team were literally #1 Nationwide, out of over 1,000,000 real estate agents/teams!

• How do you make sure everyone knows your name?
• How are top agents thriving during a recession?
• Why you need to be making content and developing a brand.

Check out Michael's Website

Real Estate Marketing Dude

The Listing Advocate (Earn more listings!)

REMD on YouTube

REMD on Instagram

Transcript:

So how do you attract new business? You constantly don't have to chase it. Hi, I'm Mike Cuevas a real estate marketing. This podcast is all about building a strong personal brand people have come to know, like trust, and most importantly, refer. But remember, it is not their job to remember what you do for a living. It's your job to remind them. Let's get started.

What's up ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the real estate marketing, dude, podcasts, we're going to do a little bit of a throwback. Today, this show was started in 2014. And I had no idea what I was doing. I used to pay someone $750 a month just to publish for podcasts for me, which is insane today. And all they would, they would just publish it. But you know, I didn't know what I was doing. And honestly, with content creation, you just sort of figure it out, you get better as you go today. I could have I could talk here for 60 minutes. And I don't even know what I'm talking about with my guests yet. I have an idea. But that's how skilled I've gotten in podcasting. And they're, and they're one out over time and so differently with video, guys, when you want to build your own brand with video, you have to do it consistently. And you'll get better as you go just like anything else. So the reason why I'm bringing that story up, though, is because the very first episode we ever did was with our guest today, and this was in 2014. And it was probably a terrible, terrible, terrible episode. But we did it right. And this is even before he started his big thing, he was just starting this at that time. So it's gonna be good show we're gonna catch back up and most importantly, today's what I want to focus on. And I know that a lot of you guys are scared, it's the fourth quarter. And regardless of what the market is doing, the fourth quarter is always a time when you work on your business and get ready for next year. Right while the market Christmas Thanksgiving, things typically slow down a little bit during this time of year, it's okay. But you don't slow down to you start working on your business. And that's what we're gonna focus on on this week's episode. So without further ado, we're gonna go ahead and introduce our guests, Mr. Michael hellicksen. From club wealth. What's up, dude?

What's up, brother? It's good to see you. I've heard them a little hurt when he said, you know that first episode probably suck. I'm like, wait,

I was talking about my performance, not yours.

But that was a long time. And you said that was 2014? Is that right? Yeah.

2014 was the very first podcast episode, which brings it to about eight years of doing this almost every single Saturday publishing the show, books. That's what content creation does. There's a reason why we got at 1.4. Now, maybe 1.5 million downloads is because we're consistent with content. But that's another show. And if you need help with that, I want you to visit referral suite.com Because we'll help you be consistent with your personal branding. But this is not about me today. This is about Michael hellicksen. And we're going to talk about what you guys need to start doing. If you guys don't know, Mike, let me give you a little bit of introduction, if you will. Michael used to be one of the top agents in the country. And today, his son who was How old is he? He's 21 years old, I saw this kid grow up and he was he was 12 When I first met him his son, okay, this is the type of coaching Michael does his son just closed or just sign how many listings in his first year in real

estate? While he's in his first 11 months, he just didn't number 91 Last night. And that's not counting his team. That's just him. And he's got people on his team. He's got one of his team members. He's got, like 65 or 70 listings this year.

Not kids 20 years old. Do you know how long it took me to get that far like what a hustler. It's very impressive. And what we're gonna do, let's talk about what Austin's doing, and where the opportunities are going to be in the next 12 months. We chatted a little bit before we press record here. And I really want to play in a clearer picture. I think the combined experience between Michael and myself, dude, how many transactions have we done and how many years in the history this is like dinosaur Haven this is like 75 years of real estate experience, brokerages teams, so like you guys have a lot of knowledge right here. So we're gonna go deep, and we're going to talk about what's going to happen. I think we're gonna have a good pulse on this today. And this is just a prediction. Okay, I'm not a I'm not scientist. I don't have ESP. Oh my God, I don't know what's going to happen. This is our opinion. So alright, so

yeah, full disclosure. I've only been in real estate industry now for 32 years. I believe it is something that I do. So it's it was 1991 when I started selling real estate, and I was in high school back then. So I'm not exactly an old guys let's not go there. But that being said, you're right you know, my my claim to fame is at one point in time I was the number one agent on planet Earth and was closing 120 280 transactions a month at a time when most people the number two and number three combined. We're doing less than half that and and we here we are carrying about 750 listings and active and pending status that point. Now that's only relevant to the people that are watching this in terms of you know, why should you here listen to what I have to say and I you know, I think that in general in real estate, guys, there's too much Bad advice going around out there, particularly from people that have never sold real estate or never sold real estate at a high level before. So we want to be really careful about who we take advice from. Now, to Mike's point, yeah, we can't guarantee what's going to happen in the marketplace. But you know, Mike and I have been through a cycle or two. And we've seen this a few times. And you know, some people are scared right now. And some people should be scared right now, there's definitely people out there that that should be thinking to themselves, well, what the freak, you know, what's, what am I going to do? How am I going to survive this and I will tell you right now, if you have been selling real estate, if you if you were not selling real estate prior to 2011, you don't know what's about to happen. You don't you haven't been through a tough market yet. You've only been through the best market Mike and I and other people like us I've ever known in our lifetimes. In this last decade,

90% of the aging population has never seen a market like this, which is also a lot of their team leads a lot of the brokers and a lot of people leading them. Okay, guys, so pay attention to this episode. Because a lot of people don't know what's going to happen. I'll give you a couple stories. Like I see some big names in real estate. And this is how this is just how new I'm not gonna name any names. But I'll see a bunch of big names in real estate. This is like back in like April, right? May all markets never gonna crash never going to crash. Oh, that's never gonna happen. I'm like, Dude, we're gonna go down. 20% Oh, no, don't ever say that. You're not going to crash. Dude, we're gonna go down. 20% you want to call me out on social? Okay, let's go. Alright, who's got an egg on their face? So, like, you have to realize what's going to happen. But I don't mean to be doom and gloom, because these are the most exciting times, right? These are the times that people realistically what needs to happen is the real estate industry needs to flush out. There's a lot of people out there and the average agent, I think, as of like, September, September of this year, you probably heard a stat. Only, like 90% of the agents only sold four homes. So I'm like, Dude, how the hell do you even survive off of selling four homes a year? And better yet? How can you only sell four homes a year we have this thing called social media? Right? Like 10 to 15% of your friends on social are moving? How do you only sell four homes a year unless you're closet secret agent. So I want to let's start off this combo with this 2014. When we first did this podcast, I was trying to figure out what the hell was going to come next in the business right? I was in the short sales. I was not I called up Michael at the time. This is eight years ago. And we get on a call with a couple other people at the time. And at that time, I was