It's a Process

For the season 2 premiere of It’s a Process, I talk to artist Whitney Hubbs! We talk about the release of her new book Say So, her 2020 solo show Animal, Hole, Selfie, and her performative process. We also talk about influences, working with vulnerability, relationships to the audience and vanity, having fun in the studio, Polanski’s Bitter Moon, sorting and editing, the intimacy of making a book, the transformations of midlife, grappling with mortality, sexuality, and failure, having a trusted support system of friends, thinking about death, new work, the role of the studio, letting things happen, making autobiographical work, and growing up in LA in the presence of Hollywood.

http://www.whitneyhubbs.com/

https://www.situations.us/whitney-hubbs

Say So book: https://shop.selfpublishbehappy.com/products/say-so-by-whitney-hubbs

https://bombmagazine.org/articles/character-studies-whitney-hubbs-interviewed/

Zuriel Waters is a painter who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. We talk about his current solo show Bug City at Left Field Gallery in Los Osos, CA. We also talk about going from all face to all feelers, jazz as a metaphor, figures without a ground, painting as problem solving, giving himself a deadline, escaping narrative, creating a progression, playing the saxophone, sewing paintings, from the practical to the aesthetic, learning to love Murray and Mondrian, holding yourself accountable, painting for mistakes, choosing colors that are inevitable, doodling as a starting point,utopia as an end game,and making things that you can live with.

http://www.leftfieldgallery.com/bug-city-zuriel-waters

http://zurielwaters.com/index.html

https://www.maakemagazine.com/zuriel-waters

Susumu Kamijo is a painter who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. He currently has a solo show on view in Tokyo, Japan at Maki Gallery titled Beyond The Hills, and is also in a group show at Venus over Manhattan in NYC. We discuss his moving to the US at age 16, why talking to writers is better than painters, how poodles entered the work and how they have changed, mixing opposites, the poodle as an entranceway to his world, the intensity of De Kooning, feeling like your work is dorky, the absurdity of choosing to paint poodles, feeling the capacity to encompass the fucked up part of you, performing comedy in the past as a challenge, painting as an expression of the subconscious, letting unexpected things happen, finding joy in the studio, using meditation but trying not to be cringe about it, the earlier years, the importance of friends in his development, having faith that he would be able to make it as an artist,finding inspiration in other peoples death, his mentor relationship with Denzil Hurley,and a story about Susumu’s MFA experience.

Susumu Kamijo - Beyond The Hills, Maki Gallery
https://www.makigallery.com/exhibitions_en/4910/

https://www.jackhanley.com/artists/susumu-kamijo

Akira Kurosawa - Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcXk_PLrHp8

In Memoriam – Denzil Hurley
https://art.washington.edu/news/2021/07/01/memoriam-denzil-hurley

Clinton King is a painter living and working in Brooklyn, NY. We talk about his recent solo show Free Radical at Allouche Benias Gallery in Greece, and a residency at Fores Project in London over a bottle of rosé. Other topics include Jungian analysis, alchemy, working with shadow, introversion vs extroversion, abstraction as a universal and a way to communicate the unknowable, having breakthroughs, Clinton’s hypnotic meme video, connection and response, art as a living thing, dreaming of the new work, the vastness of the unconscious, putting obstacles in your own way, aging, death, and chain reactions, the balance of opposites, making an art out of transitions, working with liminal space, live tarot card readings!!, and why Stanley Kubrick’s 2001 is the best movie of all time.

https://www.clintonkingart.com/

https://allouchebenias.com/exhibitions/free-radical

http://www.foresproject.org/

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/julie-curtiss-clinton-king-1788015

Cymatics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmsfuj1Rk9c

Judd / Marfa
https://chinati.org/

Fred Sandback
https://www.fredsandbackarchive.org/

John Dee's spirit mirror
https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/john-dees-spirit-mirror#

Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BqnN72OlqA

Kubrick’s 2001 and the meaning of the monolith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSo6s_xrj4c

Cheryl Donegan is an artist who lives and works in NYC. We talk about work/life balance, taking it to the next level, the pain of transitions, the relationship between painting and video, the ongoing influence of indirect methods of childhood picture making, mediated and temporary, finding your native experiences and attractions, asking questions about painting through video, Alice Neel and morbidity, how does painting let the digital into it’s body, intervening on the ready made, Home Depot materials, the desire for control vs letting go, being an artist’s artist, indulging in formative memories, starting from scratch and moving towards beauty, what people do when they get over themselves, art and aging, Yoko Ono, Gena Rowlands, being too much, Raster Stars, Bresson’s Mouchette as the original punk, little book of martyrs, tracksuits, junkspace and irrational geometry, colorforms, step by step breakdown of her recent painting process, Cezanne and Zola, how painting seduces the digital, artists books as a way of thinking through motifs, and learning to paint with emotions.

https://cheryldonegan.com/

https://www.newmuseum.org/exhibitions/view/cheryl-donegan-scenes-commercials

https://www.aspenartmuseum.org/exhibitions/141-cheryl-donegan-grlz-veils

https://camh.org/event/cheryl-donegan/

https://davidsheltongallery.com/artists/detail/cheryl_donegan

Matthew Chambers - MONTANA WILDFLOWERS I IMAGINE I'LL SEE IN THE SPRING
https://www.praz-delavallade.com/exhibition/matthew-chambers-2017

Imi Knoebel
https://ropac.net/artists/52-imi-knoebel/

Yoko Ono - Cut Piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJ3dPwa2tI

Cassavetes / Gena Rowlands - A Woman Under the Influence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNRbcVCqt0&t=1s

Cassavete / Gena Rowlands - Opening Night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMMjcxilG8w&t=5s

Rem Koolhaas - Junkspace
https://www.readingdesign.org/junkspace

Cheryl Donegan - EAI video works
https://www.eai.org/artists/cheryl-donegan/titles

Jackie Saccoccio, obituary
https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/jackie-saccoccio-dead-abstractions-1234578300/

Amanda Friedman is an artist living in Brooklyn, NY. We met for the first in person interview at her studio and talked about current and recent work, and her solo show Everyday Drawings and Pyramids at Grifter. We also talk about her studio check in forms, “tending the garden”, everyday drawings, the slippage of mark making, going towards color and beauty, making plays (which are also paintings), Helen Rides and beat poet Helen Adams, the last live performance of her play, witchy women and desire, singing, make your own art world as a way to avoid cynicism, working for the Rosemary Mayer estate, cult figures and counter culture, how different kinds of work and found objects leads into other work, light castles and bones, transformation, ceramics, glove paintings, making things that hold themselves, art as a mirror, figuring out what the art is, Paul Thek, Andrei Rublev, using rules as an anchor point, Leonora Carrington, and paintings as keepers of secrets.

https://amandabfriedman.com/

https://g-rift-er.com/
The Kenning Anthology of Poets Theater
https://www.kenningeditions.com/shop/the-kenning-anthology-of-poets-theater-1945-1985/

Helen Adam readings/recordings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BC9rsdSdlw&t=4s

https://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Adam.php

Current Rosemary Mayer exhibition http://www.gordonrobichaux.com/rosemary-mayer.html

A Great Wagon - Rumi
https://onbeing.org/poetry/a-great-wagon/

Amanda’s uncle, Kinky Friedman:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_Friedman

Leigh Ruple
http://www.leighruple.com/

Peter Doig
https://www.michaelwerner.com/exhibitions/peter-doig2/selected-works?view=slider

Paul Thek
https://www.frieze.com/article/paul-thek-2

Andrei Rublev
https://www.criterion.com/films/300-andrei-rublev

Leonora Carrington article/show https://www.artforum.com/print/202104/chloe-wyma-on-the-tarot-of-leonora-carrington-85247

https://www.gallerywendinorris.com/exhibitions-collection/leonora-carrington-the-story-of-the-last-egg

Paul Mpagi Sepuya is an artist who makes photographs. He lives and works in Los Angeles, CA. We spoke about his solo show Stage at Document in Chicago, which is on view through May 29, 2021. We also spoke about the studio as a stage, creating the conditions for a photo, using play and pleasure but not getting stuck in it, finding ways to complicate portraiture, the breakthrough of using a mirror, the process of collaborating with friends, photography and desire, art and eroticism, relationships between the image and the viewer,and Fassbinder.

https://documentspace.com/exhibition/paul-mpagi-sepuya/

https://www.paulsepuya.com/

https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/paul-mpagi-sepuya

Jonathan Allmaier is a painter who lives in the Bronx. We talk about the work in his solo show The Howling Wind at James Fuentes Essex (on view through May 2, 2021). We also talk about the writing he does about his process, paintings as personhood, being a student of your work, starting over after moving to NYC, seeing the painting as a space or an object, dissolving the mind-body problem, Pearl Blauvelt, experiencing time through color, the influence of baseball and fatherhood, using the form of painting and altered objects/images as forms of painting, making versus showing, inanimate objects are people too, painting with and without a brush, the stubbornness of being an artist, Paul Thek, and including the space between the paintings.

Jonathan Allmaier - The Howling Wind
https://50.62.71.108/exhibitions/2021/essex-the-howling-wind

Jonathan Allmaier website
https://allmaier.wordpress.com/

https://www.newyorker.com/goings-on-about-town/art/jonathan-allmaier-2

Pearl Blauvelt
https://kerryschussgallery.com/pages/exhibitions_past_3.php?page=1

https://www.moma.org/artists/28566

Alfred Adler - The Courage to Be Disliked
https://www.amazon.com/Courage-Be-Disliked-Phenomenon-Happiness/dp/1501197274

Thich Nhat Hanh - Clouds In Each Paper
https://www.awakin.org/read/view.php?tid=222

Nathaniel Hawthorne - The House of the Seven Gables
https://www.amazon.com/House-Seven-Gables-Thrift-Editions/dp/0486408825

Iching Online (I love to ask it questions)
https://www.ichingonline.net/

Clare Grill is a painter who lives and works in Queens, NY. We talk about her beautiful solo show There’s the Air at Derek Eller Gallery, currently on view through April 24, 2021. The conversation also covers her way of collaborating with studio light, “changing the choreography”, the differing speeds of painting and drawing, making work that feels urgent, learning to look at the painting itself, complicated artifacts, drawings as a database, making abstract paintings in a field of feeling, the bones of a painting, working without a plan, becoming a painter, spending time with your work, and leaving room for not knowing or being in control all the time.

Clare Grill - There’s the Air
https://www.derekeller.com/exhibitions/clare-grill

https://claregrill.com/

The Brontës’ Secret
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-brontes-secret/480726/

I Had a Miscarriage by Shaina Feinberg
https://cupofjo.com/2019/07/miscarriage-story/

Fabienne Lasserre is an artist who makes work that is both painterly and sculptural. We discuss her solo show Eye Contact which is currently on view at Turn Gallery in NYC, and a range of other topics including the relationship between material and the immaterial, accepting imperfection, sacredness and playfulness, art as transformation, using transparency to dissolve boundaries, the need for more care in the world, sound and dance, seeing your work through someone else’s eyes, the sensuality of color, Niki de Saint Phalle, and different ways of being a feminist.

http://fabiennelasserre.com/

https://turngallerynyc.com/

Philip Guston talk:
https://www.pwf.cz/archivy/texts/articles/philip-guston-talking_2165.html

Niki de Saint Phalle:
https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5111

Lynn Tillman - Men and Apparitions:
https://softskull.com/dd-product/men-and-apparitions/

La Monte Young - Dream House:
https://www.melafoundation.org/directions.htm

David Hammons - Five Decades:
https://www.mnuchingallery.com/exhibitions/david-hammons#tab:slideshow;tab-1:slideshow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagaku

https://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-liverpool/exhibition/niki-de-saint-phalle/niki-de-saint-phalle-room-guide/niki-de-6

Niki de Saint Phalle - Daddy, 1973:
https://letterboxd.com/film/daddy-1973/