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SD-cast

by Christine Tang

Podcast to promote system dynamics and systems thinking. The "What is your SDory?" series will be interviews of system dynamics and systems thinking practitioners. There may be more series on various topics depending on interest and time. Saeed Langarudi, PhD created the podcast artwork.

Copyright: © 2024 SD-cast

Episodes

“What is your SDory, Diana Fisher?”

48m · Published 23 Jan 21:00

Dr. Diana Fisher is a retired mathematics teacher. She taught math and computer programming for over 30 years and System Dynamics modeling for over 20 years at the high school level. 

Since 2014, she has been teaching a series of online SD courses for teachers. She earned a PhD in Systems Science from Portland State University where she also taught environmental math modeling using SD. She also earned a Graduate Certificate in System Dynamics from WPI.

Transcript: https://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep9-Transcript

Videos about the importance of teaching SD modeling in high school algebra classes:  https://youtu.be/xjGuZR4zehU
https://youtu.be/sulh0klDk_g

Learn more about Diana, her 3 sequential online SD courses that are 10 weeks each and run in the summer for those who want to teach system dynamics, her presentations and her high school student’s model presentations on her website ccmodelingsystems.com
https://ccmodelingsystems.com/courses/


Links to her books:
Lessons in Mathematics: A Dynamic Approach    https://www.iseesystems.com/store/books/lessons-in-mathematics/
and
Modeling Dynamic Systems: Lessons For a First Course  https://www.iseesystems.com/store/books/modeling-dynamic-systems/

And information on publications:

Lifetime Achievement Award (2011): Fisher, D. M. (2011). “Everybody thinking differently”: K-12 is a leverage point. System Dynamics Review. 27, (4): 394-411.

Fisher, D. M. (2017). Reorganizing algebraic thinking: An introduction to dynamic system modeling. The Mathematics Enthusiast, 14(1). Article 20. Available at: http://scholarworks.umt.edu/tme/vol14/iss1/20.

Fisher, D. M. (2018). Reflections on teaching system dynamics modeling to secondary school  students for over 20 years. Systems Journal Special Edition: Theory and Practice of System Dynamics Modelling, 6(12).  Available at: http://www.mdpi.com/2079-8954/6/2/12/htm.

Fisher D.M. (2020) Algebra students build stock/flow models to study non-linear, dynamic feedback system problems. In: Stillman G., Kaiser G., Lampen C. (eds) Mathematical Modelling Education and Sense-making. International Perspectives on the Teaching and Learning of Mathematical Modelling. Springer, Cham.


Dr. Diana Fisher

Made learning environments richer
With CC-STADUS and CC-SUSTAIN
Through which she helped train
K-12 educators in systems modeling
To facilitate student-centered learning
And autonomy and curiosity in students.
Focus on incremental improvements
When you first start teaching
And remember to be gentle with grading
Help students define the problem scope
And their models pass the units check
To tackle problems that are complex
But most of all inspire in them hope

Thank you for listening to SD-cast. Please subscribe to SD-cast to hear more SDories.

Email me, [email protected], if you would like to be on SD-cast or recommend someone.  

See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:
https://twitter.com/WPISDclub
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/


And the sign up link for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list:
https://bit.ly/WPIsdMailForm

“What is your SDory, Ken Cooper?”

49m · Published 17 Jul 21:00

Kenneth “Ken” Cooper has led hundreds of applications of System Dynamics modeling efforts for over 50 years with a total value of a quarter of a trillion dollars. He was President of Pugh-Roberts Associates, Managing Partner of PA Consulting and the founder of Cooper Human Systems. Ken is a two-time Edelman Laureate and a System Dynamics Society Applications Award winner. He is currently retired but works on select consulting projects. He earned his bachelors at MIT, studying under Jay Forrester, and his masters at Boston University.

Transcript: https://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep8-Transcript

Ending
Ken and I continued chatting about my research interests so I cut that part out. If you would like to meet and talk to Ken and other SD practitioners, please sign up for the System Dynamics Society’s 2021 Fundraising Event for the Student Chapter!

The first WPI System Dynamics micro-course, System Dynamics Fundamentals is now available.

You can read more of Ken’s bio in the document linked below:
https://bit.ly/Ken-Cooper-2021-Bio

Ken allowed us to share the following document “Finding Better Treatments Faster: How System Modeling Can Help Advance Human Disease Research”

Below are links to more videos and articles of Ken’s work with Mastercard, Litton, Fluor, Hughes Aircraft, and the NFL:
Ken Cooper Interview Series (on YouTube)

Now, here is a poem I wrote about Ken Cooper:

Ken Cooper
Is really super-duper
He and his team's work at Pugh-
Roberts are one of the few
Finalists and winners of multiple awards
Their wiSDom and going the extra yard
Can help teams improve their records
So learn from their work with MasterCard,
the NFL, Litton, Hughes Aircraft and Fluor
About litigation and mitigation (dispute no more!)
Because lawsuits can leave one destitute
So we must be ready to be able to execute
A plan to ensure a project's survival
(And recognize the rework cycle)
Ken now models the dynamics in a human body
(Cells, neurons, glucose, insulin and antibody)
To succeed one must persevere
Do not fall prey to doubt and fear
To make modeling problems easier than they seem
Find a champion client and join a strong team

Thank you for listening to SD-cast. Please subscribe to SD-cast to hear more SDories.

Email me, [email protected], if you would like to be on SD-cast or recommend someone. 

See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:
https://twitter.com/WPISDclub
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/

Sign up for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list:
https://bit.ly/WPIsdMailForm

Music:
Intro and End
“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.
https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington_Bear/Haplessly_Happy/Limelight
https://creativecommons.org/lic

"What is your SDory, Sema Çömez?"

23m · Published 13 Jul 00:00

Sema Çömez is a PhD Student in Industrial Engineering & Operations Management at Koç University in Turkey. She earned a master of science degree at Boğaziçi University and bachelors degree at Istanbul Technical University also in Industrial Engineering. She is the 2020 Lupina Young Researchers award winner and earned an honorable mention for the Dana Meadows Award of the System Dynamics Society for her work modeling heart failure.

Transcript: https://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep7-Transcript

Sema and other young modelers were inspiring to watch in the 2020 International System Dynamics Conference. The 2021 conference is July 25th - 30th. See the link below for more information: https://systemdynamics.org/conference/

Please also consider attending the free Student-Organized Colloquium which is on Sunday, July 25th: https://systemdynamics.org/2021-colloquium/

Below are links to Sema’s works and the Lupina Award (which we referenced in the interview):
https://proceedings.systemdynamics.org/2020/papers/P1353.pdf
https://youtu.be/EJCWOm3MAxY
https://systemdynamics.org/lupina-young-researchers-award/

Now, here is a poem I wrote about Sema:

Sema Çömez

Students should do what she says
Start simple and learn the terminology
Before you jump into physiology
Sema won the Lupina Young Researcher award
And models the dynamics of health issues
To help prevent events that are untoward
By simulating our bodys’ mechanisms
To suggest treatment for our heart tissues
(Which can aid humans and other organisms?)
But we should exercise on a regular basis
To prevent problems like heart disease 
Diseases like cancer create unease
Messes up our natural homeostasis processes
Vicious cycles can bring us to our knees
(No reinforcing loops, please!
Unless it is virtuous and creates an oasis)
So we must screen and act early
(Else some patients may become surly)
In order to prevent a potential tragedy
From this unfortunate malady
We can model these diseases that one abhors
To focus on treatment like Sema and her mentors

Thank you for listening to SD-cast. Please subscribe to SD-cast to hear more SDories.

Email me, [email protected], if you would like to be on SD-cast or recommend someone.  

See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:
https://twitter.com/WPISDclub
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/


Sign up for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list:
https://bit.ly/WPIsdMailForm

Music:

Intro and End

“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.
https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington_Bear/Haplessly_Happy/Limelight
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/

"What are your SDories, Jameses Hines and Lyneis?"

34m · Published 28 Jun 22:00

Jim Hines and Jim Lyneis were pioneers in online System Dynamics education at MIT and WPI. Both studied System Dynamics at MIT and worked together at Pugh-Roberts Associates.

Correction: Jim Lyneis earned his PhD in Business Administration from University of Michigan. Jim Hines earned his PhD in System Dynamics from MIT.

Transcript: https://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep6-Transcript

Links to their works (which we referenced in the interview):
Corporate Planning and Policy Design: A System Dynamics Approach
”System dynamics for business strategy: a phased approach”
“System dynamics for market forecasting and structural analysis”
Mastercard project
Molecules of System Dynamics Structure

WPI System Dynamics Fundamentals micro-course

Picture of the end of the interview

Listen to more SDories on the WPI SD Club YouTube

Now, here is a poem I wrote about Professors Hines and Lyneis:

Professors Jim
Works are astute and impactful
You can read about them on a whim
Or take their SD 550 course to be successful
In your System Dynamics journey
They lay the foundation for your study
(And their humor may put you in a gurney)
Learning, modeling or teaching with a buddy
Is more fun and motivating 
Join WPI online and learn with us 
Jim Hines and Jim Lyneis
To have more accepts and not rejects
In the dynamics of a romance or projects
Who wants to rework a defect?
We want projects and products to be correct!
But learning is an interactive and iterative process
With cycles and periods for us to reflect
On our mistakes and how we digress
Listen, study, and practice to progress
So you can “Walk tall and model small”


Thank you for listening to SD-cast. Please subscribe to SD-cast to hear more SDories.

Email me, [email protected], if you would like to be on SD-cast or recommend someone.  


See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:

https://twitter.com/WPISDclub

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/

Sign up for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list.


Music:

Intro and End

“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.

https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington_Bear/Haplessly_Happy/Limelight

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/


“What is your SDory, Khalid Saeed?”

39m · Published 10 Apr 16:00

Khalid Saeed is a professor of economics and system dynamics in the Social Science and Policy Studies department at Worcester Polytechnic Institute, where he served as department head and developed new programs in economics, psychology and system dynamics. He earned a PhD in System Dynamics and Economic Development from MIT and is a past-president of the System Dynamics Society.

Transcript: http://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep5-Transcript

I would like to thank Prof. Saeed for his continuous and longtime support of SD Club activities by presenting in and attending Collective Learning Meetings (CLMs) when he can. Below are links to his papers and book (which we referenced in the interview).

Slicing Complex Problems paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.4260080305
Slicing Complex Problems video: https://youtu.be/ht3VhcgzWBo
“Cancer as a System Dysfunction” paper: https://doi.org/10.3390/systems9010014
“Why Forrester Wished to Replace Both Differential Equations and Economics?”:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3692759
“Jay Forrester's operational approach to economics” paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.1525
“Connecting Feedback Map with Computable Model” video: https://youtu.be/mpgSjnPhhRU
Development Planning and Policy Design: A System Dynamics Approach
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVRQTD2/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_2SZ98VB8PQGEQYZAC7GM

Now, as with the custom of SD-cast, here is a poem I wrote about Prof. Saeed:

Prof. Khalid Saeed
Is a Forrester award recipient
Advised Raafat's PhD on dissent
Has an good sense of humor
Models cancer as a system dysfunction (no tumors!)
Call him for advice on sustainable development
Economics, system dynamics or just to vent
He studied at MIT--the birthplace of SD
Brown bag lunches and table functions
Are where they talked of designing policy,
Feedback, stock-flow and DYNAMO

At WPI, our meetings have been online and free
To be inclusive so people worldwide can see
Or listen to our thoughts on modeling methodology
He documents his thoughts for scientific practice and for history
So others will know about the systems thinking and SD split
Same tools used to different extents. How can we rectify it?
Focus on slicing the problem into pieces?
Test the structure in equilibrium
For any unexpected increases or decreases?
"Keep calm and check DT" says Tim
Who models the dynamics of insurgencies and conflicts
Like his advisor who modeled farmers, soldiers and bandits
To understand what will help tensions cease
And create conditions for world peace

“Farmers, bandits and soldiers: a generic system for addressing peace agendas” paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.1507

WPI SD Social Media accounts:
https://twitter.com/WPISDclub
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/

Sign up for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list:
https://bit.ly/WPIsdMailForm

Music:
“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.
https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington

“What is your SDory, Mike Radzicki?”

37m · Published 03 Mar 00:00

Michael “Mike” Radzicki is a professor in the Social Science and Policy Studies department at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. He teaches economics and system dynamics courses. He has a PhD in Economics from Notre Dame, is a past-president of the System Dynamics Society and founded the WPI System Dynamics program.

Link to transcript: http://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep4-Transcript

I would also like to thank Prof. Radzicki for advising me and hiring me to create and manage media for WPI System Dynamics. Check out the links below for the first SD paper Prof. Radzicki wrote and the Feedback Economics book. Stay tuned for Prof. Radzicki’s book chapter. We also provided a link to a short YouTube video with extra material from the interview. Now, as with the custom of SD-cast, here is a poem I wrote about Prof. Radzicki 


Prof. Michael “Mike” Radzicki

No need for an extra mic

You can hear him loud and clear

Never fear, for Mike is here

To teach you martial arts

Or about René Descartes

He is an economist 

And wants you to get the bang for your buck

Whether that is college or a truck

Let's be honest and transparent

And help teach and mentor

To fix structure that is errant


Institutional Dynamics: An Extension of the Institutionalist Approach to Socioeconomic Analysis
https://doi.org/10.1080/00213624.1988.11504801

Feedback Economics
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783030671891

Bonus material: Check out the WPI SD YouTube Channel for a short video of Prof. Radz and my chatting about recording SD history https://systemdynamics.org/oral-history-of-the-sd-society/

and the SDory behind SD-cast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg3AD1IqQP7EGSNRDzNkIYQ

Thank you for listening to SD-cast. Please subscribe to SD-cast to hear more SDories.

Email me, [email protected], if you would like to be on SD/ST-cast or recommend someone who would be.  

See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:

https://twitter.com/WPISDclub

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/

Sign up for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list: 

https://bit.ly/WPIsdMailForm

Music:

Intro and End

“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.

https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington_Bear/Haplessly_Happy/Limelight

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/



“What is your SDory, Karim Chichakly?”

16m · Published 20 Jan 13:00

Karim Chichakly is co-president of isee systems and an adjunct professor in the Social Science and Policy Studies department at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. He teaches system dynamics courses. He earned his PhD in Computer Science and Complex Systems from the University of Vermont.

Transcript of the interview: http://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep3-Transcript

I would also like to thank isee systems for developing products, such as, Stella Architect and the isee exchange and providing services, such as, teaching to aid those who use system dynamics from beginner to expert levels. Below is a poem I wrote about Karim. 

Dr. Karim “The Dream” Chichakly


Karim, “The Dream”
Is someone you’d want on your team
To model, manage and code 
Guide you along the road
Of learning system dynamics
He is calm when others are frantic
He is a tough but fair grader
Will push you to do greater
Like his team at isee systems
Who are full of SD wiSDoms


See below for the links to Karim’s and Bob’s COVID presentations and models:
Karim Chichakly’s COVID-19 Model by Age
Karim Chichakly’s Vertical Isolation in Brazil Simulator
Karim Chichakly’s COVID-19 Economy Model
Karim Chichakly’s Modeling COVID-19 Policies (Video explanation of Vertical Isolation and Economy Models)

Bob Eberlein presents "Understanding the Unknown: Trying to make COVID 19 discussion as transparent as possible”
Bob Eberlein’s COVID-19 Simulator


Please subscribe to SD/ST-cast to hear more SD/STories.

Email me, [email protected], if you would like to be on SD/ST-cast or recommend someone who would be.  

See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:

https://twitter.com/WPISDclub
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/


Music:

“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. 

I cut the music track from 0:465-1:20 and kept the next 6.85 seconds then moved the rest of the song to the end of the podcast and trimmed the end (~ 21 seconds off) to fit the podcast ending 

https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington_Bear/Haplessly_Happy/Limelight

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/

“What is your SDory, Saeed Langarudi?”

20m · Published 26 Jul 01:00

Saeed Langarudi is a Research Assistant Professor at New Mexico State University. He earned his PhD in System Dynamics and Economics from WPI. He builds ecological economics and natural resources management models for the New Mexico Water Resources Research Institute.

Transcript of the interview: http://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep2-Transcript

Please subscribe to SD-cast to hear more SD/STories.

Email me, [email protected], if you would like to be on SD/ST-cast or recommend someone who would be.  

See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:

https://twitter.com/WPISDclub

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/

Sign up to be on the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list: http://eepurl.com/dzmA4j


Music:

Intro and End: “Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut the music track from 0:465-1:20 and moved the rest of the song to the end of the podcast

Starting at ~16:07: Johannes Brahms – Hungarian Dance No. 5 in G minor
https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/ten-pieces/classical-music-johannes-brahms-hungarian-dance/zfj4y9q

Saeed requested that I add this song to the podcast episode. I thought it fit best in the fun(ny) SDory section.

“What is your SDory, Raafat Zaini?”

13m · Published 08 Apr 20:00

Raafat Zaini is currently a research scientist in the Social Science and Policy Studies department at Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI) where he earned his PhD. He is currently working on simulation modeling of learning and cognition theory and exploring theory modeling in groups. He is co-founder of the Collective Learning Meetings (CLMs), which is a weekly peer-to-peer mentoring meeting for students to share their work in progress.   

Transcript of the interview: http://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep1-Transcript

I would also like to credit Raafat Zaini for the name of this podcast, for inspiring me and teaching me about podcasts and other media. He and other WPI SD Club members paved the way for this work. Their support and guidance are priceless. Below is a poem I wrote about Raafat. 

Dr. Raafat “The Boss” Zaini 

Is from Saudi and innovative 
He is very handy and creative
Studied ME, aero and SD 
(I didn't know you minored in IE)
He knows many modeling and media apps  
And now we plan on making podcasts
He taught me how to Tweet
He is someone you'd want to meet
(He and his family are very sweet)

Please subscribe to SD/ST-cast to hear more SD/STories.

Email me, [email protected], if you would like to be on SD/ST-cast or recommend someone who would be.  

See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:

https://twitter.com/WPISDclub

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/



Music:
“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License

I cut out 1:00-1:20 of the music track to fit the dialogue better and shifted the music to continue at the end.



SD-cast has 9 episodes in total of non- explicit content. Total playtime is 4:43:10. The language of the podcast is English. This podcast has been added on December 18th 2022. It might contain more episodes than the ones shown here. It was last updated on February 24th, 2024 20:45.

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