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“What is your SDory, Khalid Saeed?”

39m · SD-cast · 10 Apr 16:00

Khalid Saeed is a professor of economics and system dynamics in the Social Science and Policy Studies department at Worcester Polytechnic Institute, where he served as department head and developed new programs in economics, psychology and system dynamics. He earned a PhD in System Dynamics and Economic Development from MIT and is a past-president of the System Dynamics Society.

Transcript: http://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep5-Transcript

I would like to thank Prof. Saeed for his continuous and longtime support of SD Club activities by presenting in and attending Collective Learning Meetings (CLMs) when he can. Below are links to his papers and book (which we referenced in the interview).

Slicing Complex Problems paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.4260080305
Slicing Complex Problems video: https://youtu.be/ht3VhcgzWBo
“Cancer as a System Dysfunction” paper: https://doi.org/10.3390/systems9010014
“Why Forrester Wished to Replace Both Differential Equations and Economics?”:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3692759
“Jay Forrester's operational approach to economics” paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.1525
“Connecting Feedback Map with Computable Model” video: https://youtu.be/mpgSjnPhhRU
Development Planning and Policy Design: A System Dynamics Approach
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVRQTD2/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_2SZ98VB8PQGEQYZAC7GM

Now, as with the custom of SD-cast, here is a poem I wrote about Prof. Saeed:

Prof. Khalid Saeed
Is a Forrester award recipient
Advised Raafat's PhD on dissent
Has an good sense of humor
Models cancer as a system dysfunction (no tumors!)
Call him for advice on sustainable development
Economics, system dynamics or just to vent
He studied at MIT--the birthplace of SD
Brown bag lunches and table functions
Are where they talked of designing policy,
Feedback, stock-flow and DYNAMO

At WPI, our meetings have been online and free
To be inclusive so people worldwide can see
Or listen to our thoughts on modeling methodology
He documents his thoughts for scientific practice and for history
So others will know about the systems thinking and SD split
Same tools used to different extents. How can we rectify it?
Focus on slicing the problem into pieces?
Test the structure in equilibrium
For any unexpected increases or decreases?
"Keep calm and check DT" says Tim
Who models the dynamics of insurgencies and conflicts
Like his advisor who modeled farmers, soldiers and bandits
To understand what will help tensions cease
And create conditions for world peace

“Farmers, bandits and soldiers: a generic system for addressing peace agendas” paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.1507

WPI SD Social Media accounts:
https://twitter.com/WPISDclub
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/

Sign up for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list:
https://bit.ly/WPIsdMailForm

Music:
“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.
https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington

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Lifetime Achievement Award (2011): Fisher, D. M. (2011). “Everybody thinking differently”: K-12 is a leverage point. System Dynamics Review. 27, (4): 394-411.

Fisher, D. M. (2017). Reorganizing algebraic thinking: An introduction to dynamic system modeling. The Mathematics Enthusiast, 14(1). Article 20. Available at: http://scholarworks.umt.edu/tme/vol14/iss1/20.

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And their models pass the units check
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Now, here is a poem I wrote about Ken Cooper:

Ken Cooper
Is really super-duper
He and his team's work at Pugh-
Roberts are one of the few
Finalists and winners of multiple awards
Their wiSDom and going the extra yard
Can help teams improve their records
So learn from their work with MasterCard,
the NFL, Litton, Hughes Aircraft and Fluor
About litigation and mitigation (dispute no more!)
Because lawsuits can leave one destitute
So we must be ready to be able to execute
A plan to ensure a project's survival
(And recognize the rework cycle)
Ken now models the dynamics in a human body
(Cells, neurons, glucose, insulin and antibody)
To succeed one must persevere
Do not fall prey to doubt and fear
To make modeling problems easier than they seem
Find a champion client and join a strong team

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Music:
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Now, here is a poem I wrote about Sema:

Sema Çömez

Students should do what she says
Start simple and learn the terminology
Before you jump into physiology
Sema won the Lupina Young Researcher award
And models the dynamics of health issues
To help prevent events that are untoward
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Messes up our natural homeostasis processes
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Unless it is virtuous and creates an oasis)
So we must screen and act early
(Else some patients may become surly)
In order to prevent a potential tragedy
From this unfortunate malady
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Music:

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“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.
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Now, here is a poem I wrote about Professors Hines and Lyneis:

Professors Jim
Works are astute and impactful
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Or take their SD 550 course to be successful
In your System Dynamics journey
They lay the foundation for your study
(And their humor may put you in a gurney)
Learning, modeling or teaching with a buddy
Is more fun and motivating 
Join WPI online and learn with us 
Jim Hines and Jim Lyneis
To have more accepts and not rejects
In the dynamics of a romance or projects
Who wants to rework a defect?
We want projects and products to be correct!
But learning is an interactive and iterative process
With cycles and periods for us to reflect
On our mistakes and how we digress
Listen, study, and practice to progress
So you can “Walk tall and model small”


Thank you for listening to SD-cast. Please subscribe to SD-cast to hear more SDories.

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See below for the WPI SD Social Media accounts:

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https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/

Sign up for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list.


Music:

Intro and End

“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.

https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington_Bear/Haplessly_Happy/Limelight

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/


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Khalid Saeed is a professor of economics and system dynamics in the Social Science and Policy Studies department at Worcester Polytechnic Institute, where he served as department head and developed new programs in economics, psychology and system dynamics. He earned a PhD in System Dynamics and Economic Development from MIT and is a past-president of the System Dynamics Society.

Transcript: http://bit.ly/SD-cast-Ep5-Transcript

I would like to thank Prof. Saeed for his continuous and longtime support of SD Club activities by presenting in and attending Collective Learning Meetings (CLMs) when he can. Below are links to his papers and book (which we referenced in the interview).

Slicing Complex Problems paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.4260080305
Slicing Complex Problems video: https://youtu.be/ht3VhcgzWBo
“Cancer as a System Dysfunction” paper: https://doi.org/10.3390/systems9010014
“Why Forrester Wished to Replace Both Differential Equations and Economics?”:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3692759
“Jay Forrester's operational approach to economics” paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.1525
“Connecting Feedback Map with Computable Model” video: https://youtu.be/mpgSjnPhhRU
Development Planning and Policy Design: A System Dynamics Approach
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVRQTD2/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_2SZ98VB8PQGEQYZAC7GM

Now, as with the custom of SD-cast, here is a poem I wrote about Prof. Saeed:

Prof. Khalid Saeed
Is a Forrester award recipient
Advised Raafat's PhD on dissent
Has an good sense of humor
Models cancer as a system dysfunction (no tumors!)
Call him for advice on sustainable development
Economics, system dynamics or just to vent
He studied at MIT--the birthplace of SD
Brown bag lunches and table functions
Are where they talked of designing policy,
Feedback, stock-flow and DYNAMO

At WPI, our meetings have been online and free
To be inclusive so people worldwide can see
Or listen to our thoughts on modeling methodology
He documents his thoughts for scientific practice and for history
So others will know about the systems thinking and SD split
Same tools used to different extents. How can we rectify it?
Focus on slicing the problem into pieces?
Test the structure in equilibrium
For any unexpected increases or decreases?
"Keep calm and check DT" says Tim
Who models the dynamics of insurgencies and conflicts
Like his advisor who modeled farmers, soldiers and bandits
To understand what will help tensions cease
And create conditions for world peace

“Farmers, bandits and soldiers: a generic system for addressing peace agendas” paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/sdr.1507

WPI SD Social Media accounts:
https://twitter.com/WPISDclub
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1916314/

Sign up for the WPI System Dynamics Club mailing list:
https://bit.ly/WPIsdMailForm

Music:
“Limelight” by Podington Bear is licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. I cut and moved the music track to fit the intro and ending.
https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington

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