Health Hats, the Podcast

Personal growth living with a chronic illness, sickle cell, the importance of open communication, building a supportive community, & advocating for oneself. About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once. I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. Download the printable transcript here Contents Table of Contents Toggle About the ShowWatch on YouTubeRead NewsletterContentsEpisodeProemPodcast introFour more years, a motherYou mean I won’t get sickle cell?No lying in motherhoodHarder on myselfTreat us differentlyWhere do they fit in the world? Call to actionMoving on and building communityMuslim communityHealthcare CommunityTrust my teamEgo-centered, patient-centeredSpeaking truth to powerMakeup for the Emergency RoomIntentional whyYou can’t read my mind?I’m not your caregiver. I’m your partner.End-of-life. It’s for real.Live below your means, cut out the noiseReflectionPodcast OutroPlease comment and ask questionsProduction TeamCreditsInspired by and Grateful toLinks and referencesDisclaimerRelated podcastsCreative Commons Licensing Episode Proem I’m delighted to reconnect virtually with my dear friend, Fatima. We last recorded several conversations, two with her mother, Esosa, in 2019 as part of the series on people with complex conditions transitioning from pediatric to adult medical care. The titles included Living a Happy Full Life, Good Listeners, Good Conclusions, and I’m Not Drug-Seeking. I’m in Pain. Becoming friends with Fatima has been one of the delights of my last decade. I especially value sharing our diverse experiences, finding many common cords (chords), leading to ongoing separate growth and development. From Fatima, I’ve dared to proudly introduce myself as a 2-legged cisgender old white man of privilege. Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Four more years, a mother When we had the conversations in 2019, you were a mom, but it wasn't about you being a mom. Now, you've been a mom for four more years, dealing with sickle cell and being part of the family unit. Your mom said it's not just the person with the diagnosis; the whole family must manage. What are your thoughts about that now? You and your kids are getting older. Your son's graduating from preschool. I can't believe it. Anyway, what are your thoughts about that? Fatima Muhammed-Ighile: She states that sickle cell is a family issue. These last few years, I've understood that more profoundly. My kids are now five and six. They ask questions, and there are times when they can now comprehend how my restrictions, based on when I feel sickle cell pain, affect their lives. So that's required me to have discussions with them that, at times, I wish I could have delayed. Health Hats: If I remember correctly, your daughter probably has the most challenging questions. You mean I won’t get sickle cell? Image from https://www.kold.com/2021/01/28/federal-committee-recommends-more-research-care-patients-with-sickle-cell/ Fatima Muhammed-Ighile: It was a lazy Sunday afternoon,

Day starts with angst, leading to screen-free day, reservoir walk, visit to farm stand, reading real book. Revived with renewed sense of gratitude & well-being. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube None today. Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast, but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. download the printable transcript here Contents Table of Contents Toggle Watch on YouTubeRead NewsletterContentsEpisodeProemPodcast introScreen-free dayWalking a mile around the ResFarm stand Call to actionBack homeDay’s endReflectionPodcast OutroEpisode NotesProduction TeamOther CreditsDisclaimerRelated podcastsCreative Commons Licensing Episode Proem JoJo and Danny selfie Good morning. I'm sitting on my porch with my dog, Jojo, who's now coming up to sit on my lap. The sun is shining. We live on a busy street, so you'll hear many of those noises. I didn't sleep that well last night. I had more angst than I've had in a long time. And my angst was about, oh, I'm doing so much, oh goodness, what is that, a cardinal, that I'm doing so much, I'm so busy, I'm trying so many new things, why can't I settle, do I have ADHD, just worry, worry, worry, worry. I haven't had this kind of worry in a long time, not since I've been working or... Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Screen-free day I finally got some sleep, woke up, and decided that everything I was doing was fun, that I was my master, and that I would have a screen-free day. So... It's already been a little bit of a challenge. I had to text my sister. She wanted to have dinner tonight. I guess that was just a second, and I listened to music on my phone, but I don't think that counts. My wife, the dog, and I will take a walk. I'm going to read an actual book instead of a Kindle. So, I'll check in as the day goes on and let you know how it's going. Walking a mile around the Res Arlington Reservoir image by Danny Hear that sound? That's the sound of the water going out of the Arlington Reservoir. The Arlington Reservoir is the secondary water source for where we Image of Danny and JoJo by Danny live in case our primary water source goes bad. I love that we have this. We're walking around it. It's about not quite a mile. See how I do. Arlington Reservoir image by Danny. Okay, I'm about three-quarters of the way around the reservation. It's really low. I wonder why because we've had a lot of rain. I'm still plugging away, going kind of slow. We've seen some bird watchers who identified some yellow bottom warblers, and then I saw a woodpecker on my own, and of course, there's a ton of squirrels, which the dog sees. There are a lot of dogs. So far, I've been okay. I think I will be thoroughly exhausted when we get back to the car, but we're three-quarters of the way there. So that's good. It's a good day. It's a good day to be able to walk that far. The leaves are beginning to change. But not too much. Hello. Okay. I see a gate here. It's open. I was thinking. I don't know if I could go around the gate. There's a beach path, but it looks narrow. What a beautiful day. It's so sunny. God! It's supposed to be that eclipse, but I'm not here, so I won't see it. But since I'm not doing screen time today, I have to wait till tomorrow to go on YouTube and see it. Anyway... Ooh, I'm fading. I can just feel it. Oh, my goodness. I'm going to have to sit at the next place to sit. Unless I'm, I don't think I can see our car, so I guess I can keep walking. Farm stand We stopped at a farm stand to see what good stuff we could find. I'm roaming around the farm store.

Newsletter subscribers: Apologies. My Mailchimp feed broke down, and I didn't notice until yesterday. You've missed 10 episodes!! I will repost an episode every other day until we're caught up. I'm so sorry! Dr Herndon, former Medicaid CMO: challenges faced to improve mental health care for emerging adults. Better support systems for their transition to independence Subscribers About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once. I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast, but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. download the printable transcript here Contents Proem.. 2 Podcast intro. 3 Meet Dr. Mike Herndon. 3 Health is Fragile. 3 Mental Illness in family practice. 3 Readiness to manage mental illness in practice. 4 State Medicaid Director 5 Levers of power 6 Aligning incentives 6 Minor success, at best 7 A word from our sponsor, Abridge. 8  Call to action. 8 Family Advocacy. 9 Not easy being an emerging adult 10 Reflection. 11 Podcast Outro. 11 Episode Proem According to the Commonwealth Fund, in 2016, spending in the US on behavioral healthcare was almost $160 billion, with 58 percent of all behavioral health spending being paid for by Medicare and Medicaid. According to SAMHSA, The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Medicaid is the largest payer in the United States for behavioral health services. Medicaid accounted for 26 percent of all behavioral health spending in 2009. Behavioral health is a term for mental health and substance use disorder conditions to differentiate from physical health. As a clinician, I seldom met a person with chronic physical health issues who didn’t also have behavioral health issues. I don’t know how meaningful statistics are, except to say a lot of people have behavioral health diagnoses in their records. It costs them, their families, and communities a fortune, and government health insurance pays a significant proportion of those direct costs. Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Meet Dr. Mike Herndon Health Hats: I invited my friend and colleague, Dr. Mike Herndon, recently retired Chief Medical Officer for the Oklahoma Healthcare Authority, Medicaid, to chat with us about Emerging Adults with Mental Illness. Mike, thank you so much for joining me. Mike Herndon: You bet, Danny. Happy to be here. Health Hats: Thank you. My friend, Dr. Mike Herndon, and I have done quite a bit together over the years, mainly through PCORI, the Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute. We sat on an advisory panel together, then you were appointed to the PCORI Board of Governors, and I came on the board a few years later. You were my Board orientation buddy and helped me navigate and reduce the shock of the experience. I appreciate it. Let's just jump right in. Mike, when did you first realize that health was fragile? Health is Fragile Mike Herndon: That's an easy answer for me. I grew up in rural Oklahoma. In the summer between my sixth and seventh-grade years, I was 12 years old,

Immersion into cultural humility needs curiosity, addresses power dynamics, embraces failure, meditates on self-critique, & fosters respectful relationships. About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once. I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. Download the printable transcript here Contents Table of Contents Toggle About the ShowWatch on YouTubeRead NewsletterContentsEpisodeProemPodcast introCultural competenceCultural sensitivityHealthcare, a product not delivered aloneNot the same person foreverCuriosity in not knowingReading the room, getting it wrongSelf-reflection and self-critiqueNot interacting with a statueRedress the power imbalanceCall to actionWhat about emerging adults?Person-centered approach to cultural identityTeenagers and cultural humility: ListenRelationship dyads and triadsCultural humility for the clinicianHumility in the relationship, power dynamicProviders, hang out on social media feeds where your patients hang outReflectionPodcast OutroProduction TeamOther CreditsLinks and referencesDisclaimerRelated podcastsCreative Commons Licensing Episode Proem Image created on DALL.E Something is missing. I’m not yet ready to conclude this series on emerging adults with mental illness. In the next and last episode, I’ll dive for pearls in the fifteen episodes published over the past ten months. What’s nagging at me? Each guest spoke from the culture they knew and the cultures in which they received or offered treatment and service. I need an episode about how people can approach, be curious about, and be open to the cultures they experience. Is this cultural competence or sensitivity or what? I sought experts working with a kaleidoscope of cultures—first, Jamila Xible, a previous guest and community health worker with Cambridge Health Alliance. Jamila blows my socks off whenever Photo taken by Thyla Jane PhD on UnSplash I speak with her. Next, my friend and previous guest, Kiame Mahaniah, referred me to Catherine Smail, Ph.D., a psychologist at the Lynn Community Health Center. Cat is a clinician therapist and the Associate Director of Training for Behavioral Health. Erika Malik at the Innovation and Value Initiative referred me to Theresa Nguyen, Ph.D., who has a social work background at Mental Health America. Theresa primarily does research and runs their screening program of youth coming onto the internet to solve problems for the first time. Hang on. Here we go. I learned a ton. Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Cultural competence Health Hats: Let’s discuss cultural competence, sensitivity, and humility. How do cultural humility, sensitivity, and competence come into the team sport of best health? We’ll dwell here briefly, hearing all three guests speak in depth. Catherine Smail: Cultural competence came about in the eighties, a first attempt to start grappling in a new way with the disparate health outcomes that providers saw in their immigrant populations. They tried to understand why that was happening and how ...

Danny & Oscar muse about tension between thumbnails & descriptions, superconductors & the environment, health hats origin, life & bad habits, like snarkiness. About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once. I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube None today. Check back later Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast, but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. download the printable transcript here Contents Table of Contents Toggle About the ShowWatch on YouTubeRead NewsletterContentsEpisodePodcast introProemTitles, ThumbnailsDescriptionsClick-throughWho opens, downloadsSuperconductors, trains, speedEnvironmental impactEnvironmental sustainabilityHow does it benefit people?Why do you enjoy hats?PlugLife, the Universe, and EverythingSnarkinessCall to actionReflectionPodcast OutroEpisode NotesProduction TeamOther CreditsDisclaimerRelated podcastsCreative Commons Licensing Episode Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Proem Welcome to this third bonus episode. We’re busy producing the next Emerging Adults with Mental Illness episode about Cultural Humility. It’s taking longer than expected because we’re combining three 30–40-minute dynamite interviews into one episode, and my team has new school semester obligations. So, Oscar and I chatted, sitting on his couch. I asked him to ask me anything, and he did. No video today. We might put one up in the future. What a hoot. Here goes. Health Hats: Oscar first asked me about how people find my material, whether via the web, podcast platforms, or YouTube. We talked about titles, thumbnails, descriptions, click-through rates. Titles, Thumbnails Health Hats: Titles are hard. Oscar: Titles? In what way are titles hard? Health Hats: For example, in my series on Emerging Adults with Mental Illness, I have 15 episodes or so. I have a few words in the title and then the number in the Emerging Adults with Mental Illness series. The unique thing is those few words. I did that because I wanted people to know it's part of a series. But Emerging Adults with Mental Illness has so many characters that I'm trying to keep it to 60 characters. Okay. Then, it doesn't leave that many characters for something to be unique. Oscar: So, then what if you put the emerging adults with mental illness, and you put it in the thumbnail. You put those like words, like text, in the thumbnail. Descriptions Health Hats: Or in the description. Oscar: When a viewer looks at the video, they'll see the, maybe, the thumbnail for a brief second, they'll see the title, and then they'll, it'll probably like autoplay. They won't see the description until they click on it, and if you want to know, if you wanted them to know that it's part of a series, then you could do it in the thumbnail. Of course, that could mess up your captivating thumbnail. Health Hats: That's a lot of words for a thumbnail. It is hard. So, I try to pay attention to the title and the headings of the description. There's a tension between being descriptive of what's in the section or catchy. Oscar: Okay. Interesting,

Rodney Elliott discusses the PATIENTS Program, a community-research partnership for health equity. The podcast explores authenticity, engagement, & growth. About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once. I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. download the printable transcript here Contents Table of Contents Toggle About the ShowWatch on YouTubeRead NewsletterContentsEpisodeProemPodcast introHealth is fragile: sports injury.Health is fragile: caregiverThe table setter for the PATIENTS Program through the Bridge podcastHenrietta LacksRelationship between academics and the communityListening first wherever we canInternal marketingPlugPeer into the future – a yearGenuine, authentic, transparent, humbleNext play mentalityPodcasting communitiesInternReflectionPodcast OutroProduction TeamOther CreditsLinks and referencesDisclaimerRelated podcastsCreative Commons Licensing Episode Proem I specialize in patient/ caregiver/ clinician/ community partnerships and the intersection between research, technology, and the health journey. This sentence describes the nut of what Health Hats offers. The key word is partnerships. My antennae quiver when I sense a mature, evolving community-research partnership. So, I readily agreed when my friends and colleagues, Janice Tufte and Sneha Dave, invited me to attend the SHining the SpOtlight Wide (SHOW) Conference. The PATIENTS Program sponsored the SHOW Conference. The PATIENTS Program envisions a world in which patients and stakeholders are heard, inspired, and empowered to co-develop patient-centered outcomes research (PCOR). The PATIENTS Program is an interdisciplinary research team of community partners and researchers housed at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy that works to change the way we think about research by creating a path for health equity in West Baltimore. Our guest, Rodney Elliott, and his production partner, Eric Kettering, reached out to me after the virtual conference. They host a podcast, The Bridge: Your Health Your Voice, at the PATIENTS Program. We decided to interview each other for our respective podcasts. Here’s the link to Rodney and Eric’s version. Stay tuned for mine. Same raw footage, very different output. Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Health is fragile: sports injury. Health Hats: When did you first realize health was fragile? Rodney Elliott: I realized health was fragile at two distinct times. Back to that part when I said I was playing basketball overseas in Europe, I had a significant injury for one year in Italy. I was playing, and it was the start of the game. It was a jump ball. I jumped the ball to start the game. A referee didn't move out of the way like they usually do. And I came down on his foot and fractured my ankle. I was out for the rest of the season. It was playoff time, just horrible. I rehabbed all summer, started that next year, and still had issues, so much so that I had surgery the following year. Up until that point, a sprained finger,

Rodney Elliott discusses the PATIENTS Program, a community-research partnership for health equity. The podcast explores authenticity, engagement, & growth. About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once. I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. download the printable transcript here Contents Table of Contents Toggle About the ShowWatch on YouTubeRead NewsletterContentsEpisodeProemPodcast introHealth is fragile: sports injury.Health is fragile: caregiverThe table setter for the PATIENTS Program through the Bridge podcastHenrietta LacksRelationship between academics and the communityListening first wherever we canInternal marketingPlugPeer into the future – a yearGenuine, authentic, transparent, humbleNext play mentalityPodcasting communitiesInternReflectionPodcast OutroProduction TeamOther CreditsLinks and referencesDisclaimerRelated podcastsCreative Commons Licensing Episode Proem I specialize in patient/ caregiver/ clinician/ community partnerships and the intersection between research, technology, and the health journey. This sentence describes the nut of what Health Hats offers. The key word is partnerships. My antennae quiver when I sense a mature, evolving community-research partnership. So, I readily agreed when my friends and colleagues, Janice Tufte and Sneha Dave, invited me to attend the SHining the SpOtlight Wide (SHOW) Conference. The PATIENTS Program sponsored the SHOW Conference. The PATIENTS Program envisions a world in which patients and stakeholders are heard, inspired, and empowered to co-develop patient-centered outcomes research (PCOR). The PATIENTS Program is an interdisciplinary research team of community partners and researchers housed at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy that works to change the way we think about research by creating a path for health equity in West Baltimore. Our guest, Rodney Elliott, and his production partner, Eric Kettering, reached out to me after the virtual conference. They host a podcast, The Bridge: Your Health Your Voice, at the PATIENTS Program. We decided to interview each other for our respective podcasts. Here’s the link to Rodney and Eric’s version. Stay tuned for mine. Same raw footage, very different output. Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Health is fragile: sports injury. Health Hats: When did you first realize health was fragile? Rodney Elliott: I realized health was fragile at two distinct times. Back to that part when I said I was playing basketball overseas in Europe, I had a significant injury for one year in Italy. I was playing, and it was the start of the game. It was a jump ball. I jumped the ball to start the game. A referee didn't move out of the way like they usually do. And I came down on his foot and fractured my ankle. I was out for the rest of the season. It was playoff time, just horrible. I rehabbed all summer, started that next year, and still had issues, so much so that I had surgery the following year. Up until that point, a sprained finger,

Journey in adlibbed speaking, video editing, business growth strategies, & the ups/downs of personal life, including music & health challenges. Bobbleheads, too About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once. I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast, but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. download the printable transcript here Contents Table of Contents Toggle About the ShowWatch on YouTubeRead NewsletterContentsEpisodePodcast introOn-micSeeking consultationMastermind communitiesBeehiveMusic, of courseDouble visionEpisode NotesProduction TeamOther CreditsDisclaimerSponsored by AbridgeLinksBusiness PlanRelated podcastsCreative Commons Licensing Episode Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. On-mic Welcome to this second bonus episode for Health Hats, the Podcast subscribers and patrons. These on-mic bonus episodes reflect on my writing, recording, and producing adventures. On-mic means just me extemporaneously. On-mic is challenging for me as I prefer to write and read a script, but then it looks like I’m reading. I’ve gotten anti-glare glasses, so my glasses don’t reflect. I’m trying out a new feature today with this bonus episode where the app rejiggers my eyes, so it looks like I’m looking at the camera. How does it look? Seeking consultation Lately, I have focused on improving my video editing skills, like transitions between scenes, use of images when I don’t have or don’t want to use video, and settling on the fewest possible video editing apps. A couple of months ago, I used six apps, Zoom (to record the call), Descript (for transcription), Shotcut and DaVinci Resolve (for video editing), and Audacity and Auphonic (for audio editing). Steve Heatherington, of The Alpaca Tribe Podcast fame, counsels me on efficient audio and video editing workflow. Last episode, I used three, Descript, Audacity, and Auphonic. Progress. I just engaged Julia Higgins, a freelance marketing professional, to help me integrate my business plan, website, and use of social media. I’ll put a copy of my business in the show notes. I’ve never really cared about how many followers I have, but now I want to grow my paid subscribers and patrons to build my production team. Also, my wife retired, so I’d like the podcast to be more self-supporting. Reviewing my mission, vision, and audience periodically helps me stay fresh, engaged, and relevant. I can’t overstate the joy of working with my grandsons on this podcast. One coaches me in video editing; the other takes the first pass at editing audio transcripts into newsletters. We have several years of mutual warm criticism that greases the process considerably. Mastermind communities I still participate in a weekly Sunday call with other podcasters. We’ve Zoomed since 2018 as a team at Seth Godin and Alex DePalma’s second Podcasting course. Steve Heatherington teaches that course now. I host a couple of mastermind groups. Reckoning with various podcasts with different subjects (Alpacas, Hansel, and Gretel fairytale, secondary education, environmental educator,

Dive into the intricate web of conflicting healthcare incentives. Dr. Wang explains how health economics guides resource allocation for better outcomes. About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once.  I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare.  Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. download the printable transcript here Contents Table of Contents Toggle About the ShowWatch on YouTubeRead NewsletterContentsEpisodeProemIntroducing Dr. Yun (Sherry) WangPodcast introMental health research-it’s complicatedHealth Economics – How is money spent?From whose point of view? Different reasons to spend moneyDirect and indirect costsSchizophrenia, for exampleUnder- and over-utilizationMedicare and MedicaidHealth Economics for decision makingHealth economics for policymakersThe time frame for economic analysis – years or lifetime?A word from our sponsor, AbridgePlugHealth Economics for advocatesHealth economics and homelessnessIncarcerationCrystal ball gazing far into a lifetimeA more comprehensive viewBuprenorphineStigma and BuprenorphineHome value disparities as an indicatorMapping disparitiesReflectionPodcast OutroProduction TeamOther CreditsLinks and referencesDisclaimerSponsored by AbridgeRelated podcastsCreative Commons Licensing Episode Proem Photo by Rodion Kutsaiev on UnSplash Several guests in this Emerging Adults with Mental Illness series discussed conflicting incentives. What does that even mean? Do incentives mean motivation? Why we do what we do? Are we talking about incentives for patients and caregivers, insurance companies, consultants, vendors, policymakers, clinicians, drug companies, pharmacy benefit companies, employers, or communities? In the last episode with Dr. Amanda Chue, we examined dynamic tensions. Incentives certainly cause tensions. Health Image created in DALL.E care is big business, with massive amounts of money involved, extremely fragmented systems within systems, and much power at stake. No wonder we think of conflicting incentives. The first health economist I knew personally was Jane Sarasohn-Kahn, of Health Populi fame. Full disclosure, Jane introduced me to blogging and suggested my name and brand, Health Hats. Introducing Dr. Yun (Sherry) Wang Photo by Francesco Gallarotti on UnSplash Our guest today is Dr. Yun Wang, who prefers Sherry. Dr. Wang is Assistant Professor in Health Economics and Outcomes Research at Chapman University School of Pharmacy. Before joining Chapman, she worked in global health, epidemiology, social science, clinical pharmacy, health economics, and health service research in Asia, Australia, and America. She is also an Alumni Affiliate at the Center for the Study of Race, Ethnicity & Equity, Washington University in St Louis. Her research interests lie in pharmacoepidemiology and health service research for substance users and chronic disease patients—a perfect guest for us. Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Health Hats: Sherry, thank you so much for joining us today. I'm excited about this. We met a month or two ago,

PCORI’s Dr. Chue brings to light the complexities & challenges of conducting research, engaging stakeholders, and implementing findings in real-world settings. About the Show Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once.  I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare.  Let's make some sense of all this. We respect Listeners, Watchers, and Readers. Show Notes at the end. Watch on YouTube Read Newsletter The same content as the podcast but not a verbatim transcript. Could be a book chapter with images. download the printable transcript here Contents Executive Summary. 1 Proem.. 2 Introducing Dr. Amanda Chue 01:37. 2 Podcast intro 02:22. 2 Health is fragile 03:14. 2 Path to young adult mental health research 03:48. 3 Evidence gaps 05:22. 3 Do comparators exist? 08:17. 4 Efficacy versus efficiency 11:29. 4 Dynamic tension - Parent engagement in research 12:52. 4 A word from our sponsor, Abridge 13:38. 5  Call to action 14:41. 5 Dissemination to those with lived experience 15:51. 5 Research results impacting clinical work or decisions 19:07. 6 Dynamic tension – CER and innovation 20:04. 6 Dissemination – sharing results 21:36. 6 Community implementation 22:51. 7 Stakeholder Advisory Panels 27:06. 7 Dynamic tensions in public engagement, dissemination, and implementation 30:09. 8 PCORI and public engagement 30:53. 8 Policy making 34:17. 9 Reflection 37:18. 10 Podcast Outro 39:26. 10 Episode Executive Summary PCORI’s Dr. Chue brings to light the complexities and challenges involved in conducting research, engaging stakeholders, and implementing findings in real-world settings. It emphasizes the need for long-term partnerships with community organizations and the importance of addressing disparities in research representation. The dynamic tensions in various research and implementation aspects underscore the need for thoughtful and creative approaches to address complex healthcare issues effectively. Proem Image created in DALL.E I treasure the dynamic tensions in life—for example, privacy and community, pathological optimism and catastrophizing, early adopter and skeptic. While not a researcher, I am personally and professionally neck-deep in research. Yet, despite my commitment to research, I’m a skeptic. Who’s it for? How can it aid decision-making? Who’s included in the research question, process, analysis, and dissemination? Where are the vested interests? Do we already have evidence yet have little will to implement, or does the bureaucracy or culture impede action? I will step in and highlight some dynamic tensions as the conversation flows. What about research funding sources? What’s their perspective? What are the dynamic tensions? I asked my cronies at PCORI (Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute) to introduce me to a staff scientist specializing in comparative effectiveness research funding for emerging adults with mental illness. Dr. Amanda Chue kindly agreed to speak with us. Image created on DALL.E Introducing Dr. Amanda Chue Dr. Amanda Chue received a BS in human development from Cornell University and a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from American University. She is a Program Officer for the Clinical Effectiveness and Decision Science program at the Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (PCORI). In this role, she manages a portfolio of comparative clinical effectiveness research awards focused on meaningful outcomes for patients. Her portfolio includes several studies on clinical strategies for managing and reducing lo...