Haystacks & Hell

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Ami, Abby, and Misty talk about worldly literature, fiction, and the church. They discuss their experiences with forbidden books and the Adventist attitude towards fiction in general, and ask their friends if they read any forbidden books.
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Part 2 of Santiago's conversation with Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. They cover Melissa's journey with therapy after leaving the church, her current projects, and more.

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Melissa's Links:

• Official Website
• TikTok @theglorywhole
• Instagram @the.glory.whole

Links to other topics mentioned:

• Andrew Kerbs / Deconstruct Everything
• Book: You Are Your Own
• Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery
• The Reclamation Collective
• Secular Therapy Project
• Journey Free

Other podcast episodes featuring Melissa:

• This Podcast Needs a Title - The One with Melissa Duge Spiers
• The Cult of Christianity - Sex
• Nurses and Hypochondriacs - Does Religion Influence Serial Killers?
• Heauxly Coitus - Melissa’s Heaux Story
• Boom Tequila - Sexual Empowerment, Brothels & Purity Culture with Melissa Duge Spiers

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Santiago interviews Melissa Duge Spiers, AKA Deconstruction Auntie. Melissa is an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. She grew up as a 4th generation Adventist, got baptized at 12, and left the church after high school. This is Part 1 of a 2 part conversation.

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Melissa's Links:

• Official Website
• TikTok @theglorywhole
• Instagram @the.glory.whole

Links to other topics mentioned:

• Ex-Adventist Survey
• #ChurchToo

Other podcast episodes featuring Melissa:

• This Podcast Needs a Title - The One with Melissa Duge Spiers
• The Cult of Christianity - Sex
• Nurses and Hypochondriacs - Does Religion Influence Serial Killers?
• Heauxly Coitus - Melissa’s Heaux Story
• Boom Tequila - Sexual Empowerment, Brothels & Purity Culture with Melissa Duge Spiers

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Santiago interviews the research team behind the ex-Adventist survey and research project called Eighth-day Freedom: Dr. Tom Arcaro, Dr. Duane McClearn, and Jeff, an ex-Adventist originally from Michigan.

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Ex-Adventist Survey Links:

• Take the survey
• Eighth-day Freedom Blog
• One Size Does Not Fit All (Blog addressing bias)

Links to other topics mentioned:

• #ChurchToo
• Jesus and John Wayne
• The Outsider Test for Faith
• Rachel Klinger Cain (@IBlameBill TikTok)
• Vertical vs. Horizontal Morality

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Santiago shares a bit more about his experiences after leaving the church and shares a template of the letter he wrote to his parents. Abby, Ami, and Alex talk more about issues with raising your own children when your family wants to proselytize them. They talk about issues with aging parents, and whether people are happier with or without religion, regardless of whether it’s true.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Coming Out Atheist: How to Do It, How to Help Each Other, and Why - by Greta Christina
• Template Letter to Seventh-day Adventist Parents

Recent stories from listeners like you:

• My Dad Works for the Church That Abused Me
• I Grew up in a Strict Immigrant SDA Household
• I Began Working With People Suffering From Religious Trauma
• The Culture of Seventh-Day Adventism Is Ingrained in My Bones
• A Book Report Got Me in Trouble at My Adventist School

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Santiago reads the letter he wrote to his parents about leaving the church and faith behind. Ami, Abby, and Alex talk about dealing with family who are still in the church. They talk about issues with the previous generation, as well as issues with raising kids and the next generation.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Coming Out Atheist: How to Do It, How to Help Each Other, and Why - by Greta Christina

Template Letter to Seventh-day Adventist Parents

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Santiago interviews his Gen Z brother Miguel about growing up Gen Z and Seventh-day Adventist. We laugh about sex ed, bananas, and fleeing their home in the middle of the night.

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Ray Comfort on the banana

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Oh look, another sex episode! Santiago shares his experiences and some resources. Ami, Abby, and Alex discuss sex ed in the Adventist church and touch on dorm life, contraceptives, and the experience of growing up during the AIDS crisis. They ask their friends: What, if any, sex ed did you receive?

Links mentioned in this episode:

• Film: Yes, God, Yes
• Inclusive sex education resources
• Erica Smith, M.Ed. - Sex Educator
• Old Video of Christian Sex Education
• Book: No More Mr. Nice Guy
• Video: No More Mr. Nice Guy Overview
• Video: Signs you're dating a "Nice Guy"
• Book: #Church Too
• Book: Beyond Shame

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We discuss John Harvey Kellogg, early Seventh-day Adventist attitudes towards sex, more modern attitudes, and our own experiences with sex education growing up in the church. Ami asks her friends: When did you learn what sex was?

Links mentioned in this episode:

• Inclusive sex education resources
• Erica Smith, M.Ed. - Sex Educator
• The Dark History of Graham Crackers
• Plain Facts for Old and Young by J.H. Kellogg

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Santiago reads stories shared by listeners of the podcast: A woman who left the conservative fringes of Adventism, a trans woman from Puerto Rico, and someone who was raised in the SDA Reform Church.

You can read these stories and more at hell.bio/stories.

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