Music, Mindfulness, & Madness

Dee and Michael talk with special guest Anu Kirk (Rhapsody, Playstation VR, Spatializer) about the past, present, and future of spatial audio, the time Eddie Van Halen gave Anu a guitar, the pressure to finish and achieve, what it takes to "make your year", why spatial/360 audio doesn't make sense but people are going to try it anyhow, streaming services, the album experience, audio movies, and more...

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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

Stephen Desper (Beach Boys engineer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Desper

Spatializer Pro
https://reverb.com/item/1424197-desper-spatializer

Spatializer Retro
https://reverb.com/item/18093688-desper-sr-1-spatializer-retro-white

Spatial Audio Remix cost (Anu quote): "Cost per song is somewhere between $1,500-$2,000. For a 10 song album on the low-end that would be $15k"

RPM Challenge
https://www.rpmchallenge.com/

Releases doing this spoken word / soundtrack thing he was talking about:
https://hyperdub.bandcamp.com/album/on-vanishing-land
https://johnfoxx.bandcamp.com/album/the-quiet-man

This is what got me thinking about it: https://willburnshannahpeel.bandcamp.com/album/chalk-hill-blue

Joe Frank:
https://www.joefrank.com/

Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

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Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star" video
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldylo

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

Dee and Michael talk with special guest Anu Kirk (Rhapsody, Playstation VR, Spatializer) about the past, present, and future of spatial audio, the time Eddie Van Halen gave Anu a guitar, the pressure to finish and achieve, what it takes to "make your year", why spatial/360 audio doesn't make sense but people are going to try it anyhow, streaming services, the album experience, audio movies, and more...

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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

Stephen Desper (Beach Boys engineer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Desper

Spatializer Pro
https://reverb.com/item/1424197-desper-spatializer

Spatializer Retro
https://reverb.com/item/18093688-desper-sr-1-spatializer-retro-white

Spatial Audio Remix cost (Anu quote): "Cost per song is somewhere between $1,500-$2,000. For a 10 song album on the low-end that would be $15k"

RPM Challenge
https://www.rpmchallenge.com/

Releases doing this spoken word / soundtrack thing he was talking about:
https://hyperdub.bandcamp.com/album/on-vanishing-land
https://johnfoxx.bandcamp.com/album/the-quiet-man

This is what got me thinking about it: https://willburnshannahpeel.bandcamp.com/album/chalk-hill-blue

Joe Frank:
https://www.joefrank.com/

Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

---
Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star" video
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldylo

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

Dee talks with storied Los Angeles singer-songwriter and childhood friend Jason Luckett. Jason talks about his process for the perfect live performance and spins some yarns about his travels and performing abroad, Dee and Jason talk about growing up in L.A., life behind the Orange Curtain, their mutual love for the Jackson 5, and Bill Withers. Michael is out this week.
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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

Jason Luckett links:
https://www.jasonluckett.com/

Jason on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6TXC9GYtKhuNgoyRX1MoYm?si=NvacRb65StupTcBbdEZuHQ

Jason on Apple Music:
https://music.apple.com/us/artist/jason-luckett/16014864

Jason performs "Reimagine" live at the Grand Annex in San Pedro, CA
https://youtu.be/fSLRyyus-po

Jason performs "I'm Glad You Stick Around" on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/fSLRyyus-po

Jason performs "Miracle" live from The Lounge in Hermosa Beach:
https://youtu.be/MtSa2a_IuL4

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Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

---
Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star" video
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1

Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee on Spotify
https://open.spoti

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

Dee talks with storied Los Angeles singer-songwriter and childhood friend Jason Luckett. Jason talks about his process for the perfect live performance and spins some yarns about his travels and performing abroad, Dee and Jason talk about growing up in L.A., life behind the Orange Curtain, their mutual love for the Jackson 5, and Bill Withers. Michael is out this week.
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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

Jason Luckett links:
https://www.jasonluckett.com/

Jason on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6TXC9GYtKhuNgoyRX1MoYm?si=NvacRb65StupTcBbdEZuHQ

Jason on Apple Music:
https://music.apple.com/us/artist/jason-luckett/16014864

Jason performs "Reimagine" live at the Grand Annex in San Pedro, CA
https://youtu.be/fSLRyyus-po

Jason performs "I'm Glad You Stick Around" on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/fSLRyyus-po

Jason performs "Miracle" live from The Lounge in Hermosa Beach:
https://youtu.be/MtSa2a_IuL4

---
Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

---
Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star" video
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1

Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee on Spotify
https://open.spoti

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

We discuss mindfulness, and how to use it to get past creative breakdowns, creative blocks, and life’s challenges.

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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

George Mumford:
https://georgemumford.com/

Mindfulness:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/mindfulness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness

Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

---
Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hateley on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1

Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

We discuss mindfulness, and how to use it to get past creative breakdowns, creative blocks, and life’s challenges.

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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

George Mumford:
https://georgemumford.com/

Mindfulness:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/mindfulness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness

Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

---
Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hateley on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1

Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

This week, we start by talking recording tools and applications of plugins for simplifying and coloring in the sonic field, before wandering off to parts unknown!

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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

"The Age Of Spiritual Machines" by Ray Kurzweil
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Spiritual-Machines-Computers-Intelligence/dp/0140282025

“Transcendent Man” - Ray Kurzweil Documentary
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/

Kurzweil on Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil

FXpansion BFD3 Drums:
https://www.fxpansion.com/news/bfd-migration-inmusic/

Universal Audio’s Lexicon 224 Reverb Plugin:
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/reverbs/lexicon-224.html

Universal Audio’s AMS RMX16 Reverb Plugin:
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/reverbs/rmx-16-expanded.html

Valhalla Reverb:
https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-vintage-verb/

“A Dialog On Personal Identity And Immortality” by John Perry:
https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Dialogue_on_Personal_Identity_and_Immo.html?id=m8tgDwAAQBAJ

“Meaning And Free Will” by John Hospers:
https://consequent2017.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/hospers-ph-ph-r-1950.pdf

Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

---
Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Extra Fancy "You

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

This week, we start by talking recording tools and applications of plugins for simplifying and coloring in the sonic field, before wandering off to parts unknown!

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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

"The Age Of Spiritual Machines" by Ray Kurzweil
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Spiritual-Machines-Computers-Intelligence/dp/0140282025

“Transcendent Man” - Ray Kurzweil Documentary
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/

Kurzweil on Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil

FXpansion BFD3 Drums:
https://www.fxpansion.com/news/bfd-migration-inmusic/

Universal Audio’s Lexicon 224 Reverb Plugin:
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/reverbs/lexicon-224.html

Universal Audio’s AMS RMX16 Reverb Plugin:
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/reverbs/rmx-16-expanded.html

Valhalla Reverb:
https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/valhalla-vintage-verb/

“A Dialog On Personal Identity And Immortality” by John Perry:
https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Dialogue_on_Personal_Identity_and_Immo.html?id=m8tgDwAAQBAJ

“Meaning And Free Will” by John Hospers:
https://consequent2017.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/hospers-ph-ph-r-1950.pdf

Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

---
Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Extra Fancy "You

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

Dee talks about current and past projects, and how the marriage of production and writing ebbs and flows for him.

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Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star" video
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1

Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp

Dee talks about current and past projects, and how the marriage of production and writing ebbs and flows for him.

---
Links to check out related to us and our conversation...

Oblique Strategies app:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oblique-productive-strategies/id902143877

Oblique Strategies Deck on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Oblique-strategies-hundred-worthwhile-dilemmas/dp/B0000EEZG9

Dee & Michael:

Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star" video
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1

Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/

Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!

Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk

Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/

Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/

Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!

Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY

Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk

Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com

• Anu on Bandcamp
• Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
• Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
• Rêvenir on Bandcamp