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Music, Mindfulness, & Madness
by Dee Madden, Michael Hateley, and Anu KirkMichael Hateley (recording artist/producer/engineer at Lotus Mastering), Dee Madden (recording artist/producer), and Anu Kirk (recording artist/producer/industry insider) talk music, production, the process of making and creating, earning a living as a producer and artist, making space for creativity, and navigating life as a creative human.
Copyright: © 2024 Music, Mindfulness, & Madness
Episodes
Lucky Breaks & Opportunities
1h 40m · PublishedWe talk about lucky breaks and opportunities, saying "Yes!", bands that should have made it but didn't, Dee's "Irish Grunt" history, the curse of too much willpower, the value of being a good hang and having fun, and more...
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Links related to us and our conversation follow...
Frazer Smith was a DJ on KROQ and went on to host RockN'America:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frazer_Smith
Shadoe Stevens was a DJ on KMET and also worked at KROQ. He also created and produced the "Fred R. Rated for Federated" commercials for Federated Group:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadoe_Stevens
Some of the Federated commercials:
https://youtu.be/QgnkssUEqjU
Failure - Stuck On You (Ken Andrews re-created this HD version of the video from the original footage!):
https://youtu.be/zUwXt2PPpU8
Gwen Mars were another great L.A. band in the 90s who never had a big break. They shared the same rehearsal space that Anu, Failure, Blind Melon, and many other bands used.
Gwen Mars - Stick B: https://youtu.be/34GoxqN-UD8
Gwen Mars - Neon Tom: https://youtu.be/CXQ44FZjxKE
Gwen Mars - Cosmic Dick: https://youtu.be/4B_AawfMRrM
Newly-found footage of Dee's bands...
Ex-VoTo on 1/18/91: https://youtu.be/EnRbCf1sGbU
Penal Colony's first show: https://youtu.be/wjo-x0jJpR4
---
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
Lucky Breaks & Opportunities
1h 40m · PublishedWe talk about lucky breaks and opportunities, saying "Yes!", bands that should have made it but didn't, Dee's "Irish Grunt" history, the curse of too much willpower, the value of being a good hang and having fun, and more...
---
Links related to us and our conversation follow...
Frazer Smith was a DJ on KROQ and went on to host RockN'America:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frazer_Smith
Shadoe Stevens was a DJ on KMET and also worked at KROQ. He also created and produced the "Fred R. Rated for Federated" commercials for Federated Group:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadoe_Stevens
Some of the Federated commercials:
https://youtu.be/QgnkssUEqjU
Failure - Stuck On You (Ken Andrews re-created this HD version of the video from the original footage!):
https://youtu.be/zUwXt2PPpU8
Gwen Mars were another great L.A. band in the 90s who never had a big break. They shared the same rehearsal space that Anu, Failure, Blind Melon, and many other bands used.
Gwen Mars - Stick B: https://youtu.be/34GoxqN-UD8
Gwen Mars - Neon Tom: https://youtu.be/CXQ44FZjxKE
Gwen Mars - Cosmic Dick: https://youtu.be/4B_AawfMRrM
Newly-found footage of Dee's bands...
Ex-VoTo on 1/18/91: https://youtu.be/EnRbCf1sGbU
Penal Colony's first show: https://youtu.be/wjo-x0jJpR4
---
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
The Tool of Gratitude
1h 48m · PublishedDee, Michael, and Anu talk discuss the effectiveness of practicing deliberate gratitude, and a whole lot of other stuff.
---
Links related to us and our conversation follow.
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
The Tool of Gratitude
1h 48m · PublishedDee, Michael, and Anu talk discuss the effectiveness of practicing deliberate gratitude, and a whole lot of other stuff.
---
Links related to us and our conversation follow.
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
The Last Nine Yards
1h 42m · PublishedDee, Michael, and Anu talk discuss the dilemma of being almost done with a project, what being done means, and a whole lot of other stuff.
---
Links to check out related to us and our conversation...
Charles Ives works:
"The Unanswered Question"
This is perhaps Ives' most well-known piece, partially because it is brief and relatively easy to listen to, while simultaneously incorporating his notable ideas.
From Wikipedia:
Against a background of slow, quiet strings representing "The Silence of the Druids", a solo trumpet poses "The Perennial Question of Existence", to which a woodwind quartet of "Fighting Answerers" tries vainly to provide an answer, growing more frustrated and dissonant until they give up. The three groups of instruments perform in independent tempos and are placed separately on the stage—the strings offstage.
https://open.spotify.com/track/7umTDygSNRwDVYvdp9CGNG?si=09719abcafa345bd
"Trio: II. TSIAJ"
TSIAJ = This Scherzo Is A Joke. You will hear it includes a bunch of broken, fucked-up versions of a number of American popular songs from the time.
https://open.spotify.com/track/0zn6F4oct1ygFhgY0IVFhZ?si=82b0991614a1419e
Further listening:
- Central Park in the Dark
- Concord Sonata
- Symphony No. 3
Frank Zappa was an Ives fan. Aside from the "difficulty" of the music, I think Zappa liked how Ives is not particularly interested in traditional rhythm or phrasing, opting instead for sort of clouds of sound, which are still rigorously written and planned.
---
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk: https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
The Last Nine Yards
1h 42m · PublishedDee, Michael, and Anu talk discuss the dilemma of being almost done with a project, what being done means, and a whole lot of other stuff.
---
Links to check out related to us and our conversation...
Charles Ives works:
"The Unanswered Question"
This is perhaps Ives' most well-known piece, partially because it is brief and relatively easy to listen to, while simultaneously incorporating his notable ideas.
From Wikipedia:
Against a background of slow, quiet strings representing "The Silence of the Druids", a solo trumpet poses "The Perennial Question of Existence", to which a woodwind quartet of "Fighting Answerers" tries vainly to provide an answer, growing more frustrated and dissonant until they give up. The three groups of instruments perform in independent tempos and are placed separately on the stage—the strings offstage.
https://open.spotify.com/track/7umTDygSNRwDVYvdp9CGNG?si=09719abcafa345bd
"Trio: II. TSIAJ"
TSIAJ = This Scherzo Is A Joke. You will hear it includes a bunch of broken, fucked-up versions of a number of American popular songs from the time.
https://open.spotify.com/track/0zn6F4oct1ygFhgY0IVFhZ?si=82b0991614a1419e
Further listening:
- Central Park in the Dark
- Concord Sonata
- Symphony No. 3
Frank Zappa was an Ives fan. Aside from the "difficulty" of the music, I think Zappa liked how Ives is not particularly interested in traditional rhythm or phrasing, opting instead for sort of clouds of sound, which are still rigorously written and planned.
---
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk: https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
Road Stories with Christian Menses
2h 9m · PublishedGuest Christian Menses talks with us about touring and his new record with Filthtraction. We share road stories. And much more!
---
Links to check out related to us and our conversation...
Filthtraction's new album "We've Been Waiting":
https://music.apple.com/us/album/weve-been-waiting/1596751498
https://open.spotify.com/album/2YuzfuRjVxgVRwYZQMHPYJ?si=kv58XtyNQ3CruXpCvXW81w
Filthtraction on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/filthtraction/
Christian on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/christian_menses/
Christian is the touring bassist for Psychotica, who you can find on Instagram here:
https://www.instagram.com/psychotica_official/
---
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hateley on YouTube:
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star"
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1
Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
Road Stories with Christian Menses
2h 9m · PublishedGuest Christian Menses talks with us about touring and his new record with Filthtraction. We share road stories. And much more!
---
Links to check out related to us and our conversation...
Filthtraction's new album "We've Been Waiting":
https://music.apple.com/us/album/weve-been-waiting/1596751498
https://open.spotify.com/album/2YuzfuRjVxgVRwYZQMHPYJ?si=kv58XtyNQ3CruXpCvXW81w
Filthtraction on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/filthtraction/
Christian on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/christian_menses/
Christian is the touring bassist for Psychotica, who you can find on Instagram here:
https://www.instagram.com/psychotica_official/
---
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hateley on YouTube:
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star"
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1
Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
Daily Creative Productivity Practices
1h 45m · PublishedWe cover daily creative productivity practices, share a few more Atmos and surround audio thoughts, and take a few deep diversions.
---
Links to check out related to us and our conversation...
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hateley on YouTube:
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star" video
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1
Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
Daily Creative Productivity Practices
1h 45m · PublishedWe cover daily creative productivity practices, share a few more Atmos and surround audio thoughts, and take a few deep diversions.
---
Links to check out related to us and our conversation...
Dee, Michael & Anu:
Anu Kirk
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Spotify
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Spotify
- Luscious-235 on Spotify
Michael Hateley
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hateley on YouTube:
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star" video
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier)
https://soundcloud.com/baldyloks-1
Dee Madden
https://www.deemadden.com/
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Michael Hateley:
Lotus Mastering
http://lotusmastering.com/
Hello Crow
Hello Crow, Michael's new EP is available now!
Extra Fancy "You Look Like a Movie Star":
https://youtu.be/0pE1TqlWHCk
Baldyloks (Michael Hateley & John Napier):
https://baldyloks.bandcamp.com/
Dee Madden:
https://www.deemadden.com/
Dee's new album Paisley Madrigals is out now!
Penal Colony “Blue 9” video:
https://youtu.be/Fes9E3ea8FY
Dee Madden on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4jsYxJ4QxzoGn9t0HRllPk
Anu Kirk:
https://www.anukirk.com
- Anu on Bandcamp
- Sid Luscious and The Pants on Bandcamp
- Luscious-235 on Bandcamp
- Rêvenir on Bandcamp
Music, Mindfulness, & Madness has 150 episodes in total of non- explicit content. Total playtime is 252:12:00. The language of the podcast is English. This podcast has been added on August 9th 2022. It might contain more episodes than the ones shown here. It was last updated on May 7th, 2024 16:10.
