Reimagining Justice

Episode no. 52 features Professor Professor Renee Knake Jefferson, Author and Doherty Chair in Legal Ethics at the University of Houston Law Center. Our discussion covers:

• The importance of understanding your own and others’ perspectives;
• Traits of the first female lawyers that make them the original legal innovators;
• The catalyst for Reinvent Law, one of the first legal design labs;
• The phenomena of new kinds of legal jobs;
• Her work as Fulbright Distinguished Chair in Entrepreneurship and Innovation at RMIT
• Key actions that will make the biggest difference for access to justice;
• Key findings from the book Renee co-authored, why it had to be written and has the title that it does;
• Who is Mildred Lily?
• The Rooney rule and the Mansfield rule;
• What is required to remedy gender inequality for minority women;
• How shortlisting preserves the status quo and is not a good indicator of inclusion;
• Her plans for future research; and
• Renee’s definition of legal innovation!

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours.

Links:

• Shortlisted: Women in the Shadows of the Supreme Court
• Renee Knake Jefferson
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic
• Innovation in Australian law schools
• QUT Justice Society International Women’s Day event “Women in Justice”
• ACT Law Society webinar "What Are We Not Talking About?"

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Episode no. 51 features Professor Tania Sourdin, Dean and Head of University of Newcastle School of Law. Our discussion covers:

• the impact of Covid19 on the profession;
• what’s surprised her about online disputer resolution during the pandemic;
• the difference between Supportive, replacement and disruptive tech;
• the role that legal professionals should take in adoption of technology and their innovation readiness;
• the need for a uniform and national ethical framework for technology adoption in law;
• suggestions for regulation including sandboxes which allow for safe experimentation;
• what the legal profession can learn from service delivery in other professions including medicine;
• appropriate and inappropriate uses of technology and how different client cohorts engage;
• the digital divide even within the profession;
• the lack of meaningful data being collected by courts; and
• Tania’s definition of legal innovation!

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours.

Links:

• “Justice in the age of technology: ’The rise of machines is upon us’”
• “Judges, Technology and Artificial Intelligence - The Artificial Judge“
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic
• Impact 25 Pro Bono Awards
• ACT Law Society webinar "What Are We Not Talking About?"

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Episode no. 50 features Kanan Dhru. Our discussion covers:

• What is user-friendly, people-centred justice;
• The importance of data and evidence-based research;
• HiiL’s justice dashboard;
• Key factors for innovation at scale;
• How the justice accelerator works;
• The parallels between the medical and legal professions;
• How HiiL is transforming the justice sector;
• What you will learn at the Innovating Justice forum;
• 7 gamechangers for improving people-centred justice;
• How Kanan’s definition of legal innovation has changed since Episode 8!

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours.

Links:

• The Hague Institute for Innovation of Law “HiiL”
• Innovating Justice Forum
• Haqdarshak (India)
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic
• Pro Bono Impact 25 Awards

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Episode no. 49 features Elizabeth Shearer, President of the Queensland Law Society (“QLS”) and Founder of Affording Justice. Our discussion covers:

• the impact of Covid19 on the profession;
• what changes should remain;
• the purpose of the QLS Access to Justice committee and the ‘scorecard’;
• best uses for technology and the opportunity before the profession;
• Elizabeth’s journey to establish Affording Justice;
• how the Affording Justice model has evolved;
• key takeaways from her Churchill Trust research into telephone delivery;
• how to define success as a lawyer;
• guidance on low bono and unbundling;
• how Elizabeth will know she’s been a success as QLS President; and
• Elizabeth’s definition of legal innovation!

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours.

Links: 

• Affording Justice
• QLS Access to Justice Scorecard
• Elizabeth’s Churchill Fellowship report
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic

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In this episode no. 48 I spoke with Laura Kiely, Barrister and Founder of online dispute resolution platform, Immediation. Our discussion covers:

How Laura’s experience in corporate law and at the Bar led her to this point;

• Immediation – the need it addresses, how it was designed and how it works in practice;
• The types of clients implementing it and the matters with which it assists;
• The role of government and private companies in filling gaps in the market, especially as relates to access to justice;
• The impact of Covid19 on dispute resolution in general and what this has meant for Immediation;
• How life as a lawyer compares to life as a start up founder and overlaps in skills;
• Why Laura continues to practise law while running a company with 50 employees;
• Immediation’s funding journey; and
• Laura’s definition of legal innovation!

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours.

Links:

• Immediation
• HRC ”Addressing the problem of algorithmic bias”
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic

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In this episode no. 47, I speak with Stevie Ghiassi, CEO and co-founder of Legaler, and Chairman of Legaler Aid. Our discussion covers:

• The mission of Legaler Aid and how it works in practice
• What inspired Stevie to found Legaler Aid to address the justice gap
• How Legaler Aid is expanding the network of lawyers doing pro bono work
• What Stevie considers the first step in modernising legal services
• Why incorporating blockchain technology is critical
• Video conferencing technology Legaler and its application during the pandemic
• The work of the Australian Legal Technology Association (“ALTA”)
• Tips for founders including where to base yourself and getting the structure right
• The pending launch of comprehensive global research about the business of legal tech, the Global Legal Technology Report and Directory
• Stevie’s definition of legal innovation!

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours.

Links:

• Legaler Aid
• Legaler
• Global Legal Tech Report
• ALTA
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic

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In this episode no. 46 I speak with Brendan Lacota, Head of Community Programs at Justice Connect and Vice-President of the Law Institute of Victoria.

This interview covers:

• How online tools help and what technology was used to develop: FineFixer, Dear Landlord, Justice Connect Answers and onlinewillkit.com
• How to design an online tool
• How to acquire skills to design an online tool
• Insights Brendan has gained and why he still applies them
• The best form of consumer facing legal technology right now and use cases for technology in the future
• What has most surprised him over his time implementing technology into a legal practice
• A specific product Justice Connect is developing to combat elder abuse
• His priorities for service with the Law Institute of Victoria and Law Council of Australia
• Brendan’s definition of legal innovation or, more particularly what it’s not!

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours.

Links:

• Justice Connect
• Fine Fixer
• Dear Landlord
• Paper Giant
• Online will kit
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic

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In this episode no. 45 I speak with President of the American Bar Association and Partner, Snell & Wilcox, Ms Patrica Lee Refo.

This interview covers:

• The ABA’s mission, including racial equity and other practical strategies
• The current focus on unmet legal needs due to the pandemic
• The impact of the pandemic on the practise of law including remote working and training junior lawyers
• The once-in-a-lifetime opportunity facing the profession
• Who are the people best-placed to innovate and reform
• How the historic ABA resolution regarding reform was developed and passed
• The importance of experimenting and measuring what works
• The role of technology and paraprofessionals in creating more options for everyday people
• Specific ABA projects including Free Legal Answers, Legal Tech for a change, the Miranda tool and Floodproof app
• The power inherent in being a lawyer
• The need to build back justice systems that are better than before
• Ms Refo’s definition of legal innovation or, more particularly what it’s not!

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours.

Links:

• American Bar Association
• Free Legal Answers
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic

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In this episode no. 44 I interview Lucy Ricca, Executive Director at Office of Legal Services Innovation, Utah Supreme Court.

Lucy and I discuss what is arguably the most significant changes to the practice of law in the US in approximately 100 years including reducing economic restrictions around who can practice law to enable more innovation, more scale, and more access for consumers of legal services. We canvas how the current rules of legal regulation limit innovation and access to legal services, and most importantly what we can do about that.

This interview covers:

• The key factors that led to establishing the Implementation Task Force on Regulatory Reform, especially how the task force progressed from theory to practice
• The work of the task force including setting up the regulatory sandbox
• What a regulatory sandbox is and its process for assessing risk
• Key concerns from lawyers about the potential rule changes
• The types of applications in the sandbox
• What will make the biggest difference
• Lucy’s definition of legal innovation

Links:

• Office of Legal Services Innovation, Utah Supreme Court
• Gillian Hadfield “Rules for a flat world”
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic

Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au

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Reimagining Justice covers issues at the intersection of innovation, law and social justice. You’ll enjoy it if you’re someone who hopes to make a positive improvement to people’s experience of the law through new ways of thinking and doing.

Self-represented litigants… do you love them or loath them? Well either way they are a fact of life and this episode will give you some ideas about how to best respond to self rep litigants no matter which side of the fence you’re on.

This is episode no. 43 and I speak with Katherine Alteneder, Consulting Senior Strategic Advisor with the Self-Represented Litigation Network.

This episode covers:

• how the network most effectively facilitates people from diverse backgrounds,
• how the network measures the value of its work,
• exactly what self-help is and why it’s considered a core service of the court,
• her idea for a community council to hold courts accountable,
• Katherine’s definition of legal innovation, and
• the importance of judicial education about self-representation.

If there’s one thing you won’t want to miss it will be Katherine’s tips on what to do when you find yourself opposing a self-represented litigant and practical ways of assisting emotionally charged clients so you can get on with the legal work.

Proudly sponsored by Neota Logic and Legally Yours

Links:

• Self-Represented Litigation Network
• Justice for All Project (Amanda Brown interview)  and
• How to apply a commercial mindset to reap results for your legaltech project with Amanda Brown
• Court navigators
• Self-help
• Legally Yours
• Neota Logic

Andrea Perry-Petersen – LinkedIn - Twitter @winkiepp – andreaperrypetersen.com.au

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