Political Gabfest

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision to block Donald Trump from the ballot, the new Texas law to allow state and local authorities to arrest immigrants, and guestAmanda Ripley’s suggestions to survive 2024. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Colorado Supreme Court’s opinion in Anderson, et al. v. Griswold, et al. Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States John Dickerson for CBS News Prime Time:John Dickerson on Trump, Colorado and the 14th Amendment Adam Unikowsky for Adam’s Legal Newsletter:Is the Supreme Court seriously going to disqualify Trump? Mark A. Graber in The New York Times:Donald Trump and the Jefferson Davis Problem Lawfare:Tracking Section 3 Trump Disqualification Challenges Karoun Demirjian for The New York Times:Congress Abandons Ukraine Aid Until Next Year as Border Talks Continue Ashley Wu for The New York Times:Why Illegal Border Crossings Are at Sustained Highs Elizabeth Findell for The Wall Street Journal:Texas Spent Billions on Border Security. It’s Not Working Tom Cohen and Bill Mears for CNN:Supreme Court mostly rejects Arizona immigration law; gov says ‘heart’ remains Edgar Sandoval for The New York Times:Appellate Court Says U.S. Can’t Cut Through Texas Border Wire Along Rio Grande Gabriela Baczynska for Reuters:What’s in the new EU migration and asylum deal? Karen Musalo for Just Security:Biden’s Embrace of Trump’s Transit Ban Violates US Legal and Moral Refugee Obligations Amanda Ripley for Unraveled:How to Survive 2024 Adam Mastroianni in The New York Times:Your Brain Has Tricked You Into Thinking Everything Is Worseand for Experimental History:Things could be better The Economist:What psychology experiments tell you about why people deny facts Here are this week’s chatters: John: Jason Bittel for National Geographic:A bonobo was separated from her sister for 26 years. She still remembers her. Emily:May Decemberon Netflix David: Hiroaki Nakagawa and Yasushi Miyata in Internal Medicine:An Underdiagnosed Cause of an Itchy Back Listener chatter fromMichael in Queens, New York: Irin Carmon for New York Magazine:A $45 Million Effort to Make Pregnancy Less Deadly in Brooklyn For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Amanda joins David, John, and Emily to talk abouttheir holiday plans, which includeTo Asia, With Love: Everyday Asian Recipes and Stories From the Heartby Hetty McKinnon,the DC Public Library,Purlie Victorious,the National Zoo, and Sara Lee’sButter Streusel Coffee Cake. In the nextGabfest Reads, John talks with Christine Coulson about her new book,One Woman Show. Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the free-speech controversies that are roiling college campuses since the war in Gaza began; the questions related to Trump cases that the U.S. Supreme Court will answer; and the latest high-profile abortion case coming out of Texas that has real-life and political consequences. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Hannah Natanson and Susan Svrluga for The Washington Post:Harvard President Claudine Gay to remain after antisemitism testimony Michelle Goldberg for The New York Times:At a Hearing on Israel, University Presidents Walked Into a Trap Elad Simchayoff@Elad_Sion X Danielle Allen for The Washington Post:We’ve lost our way on campus. Here’s how we can find our way back. David French for The New York Times:What the University Presidents Got Right and Wrong About Antisemitic Speech Santul Nerkar and Jonah E. Bromwich for The New York Times:How the Israel-Hamas War Tore Apart Public Defenders in the Bronx Michael Barbaro and Nicholas Confessore for The Daily:Antisemitism and Free Speech Collide on Campuses Zah Montague and Tracey Tully for The New York Times:Education Dept. Is Investigating Six More Colleges Over Campus Discrimination Mark Sherman and Eric Tucker for AP:Special counsel Jack Smith asks the Supreme Court to rule quickly on whether Trump can be prosecutedand Mark Sherman:Supreme Court will hear a case that could undo Capitol riot charge against hundreds, including Trump Bob Dylan on YouTube:Bob Dylan – Idiot Wind (Official Audio) Robert Legare and Robert Costa for CBS News:Investigators accessed Trump White House cellphone records and plan to use them at trial, special counsel says Sabrina Tavernise for The Daily:The Woman Who Fought the Texas Abortion Ban Carter Sherman for The Guardian:US abortion rates rise post-Roe amid deep divide in state-by-state access Kate Zernike for The New York Times:Texas Judge Says Doctors Can Use ‘Good Faith Judgment’ in Providing Abortions Here are this week’s chatters: John:One Line A Day: A Five-Year Memory Bookand James Barron for The New York Times:Bob Dylan Sings, and Talks, on These Tapes From 62 Years Ago Emily: Sydney Lupkin and Danielle Kurtzleben on All Things Considered:The Supreme Court will decide the fate of abortion pill mifepristone David: Paul Schwartzman for The Washington Post:With sports teams primed for move to Va., downtown D.C. frets its futureandCity Cast: Work with us. Listener chatter fromMargaret in Jersey City:Chair Watchon Facebook For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, David, John, and Emily talk aboutWhy Are So Many American Pedestrians Dying at Night?byEmily Badger, Ben Blatt, and Josh Katz for The New York Times andWhy pedestrian deaths in the US are at a 40-year highby Marin Cogan for Vox. See also Political Gabfest:“The World Is Burning” EditionandVision and night driving abilities of elderly driversby Nicole Gruber, Urs P Mosimann, René M Müri, and Tobias Nef. In the nextGabfest Reads, John talks with Brad Stulberg aboutMaster of Change: How to Excel When Everything Is Changing – Including You. Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz gather around John’s dining room table to discuss Liz Cheney, her book, and how far she’ll go to stop Donald Trump; Chris Christie, his presidential campaign, and whether he’ll stay in the race; and Purdue Pharma, the Sacklers, and if the Supreme Court will let the company go bankrupt to save the family fortune. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Oath and Honor: A Memoir and a Warningby Liz Cheney John Dickerson for CBS News Sunday Morning: “Liz Cheney on why she believes Trump’s reelection would mean the end of our republic” Terry Gross for NPR Fresh Air: “Liz Cheney, focused on stopping Trump, hasn’t ruled out 3rd-party presidential run” Kevin Liptak, David Wright, and Samantha Waldenberg for CNN:Biden tells donors he’s ‘not sure I’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t in the race Ben Mathis-Lilley for Slate:When Chris Christie Is the Voice of Honesty and Reason, You’re in Trouble Lisa Lerer and Chris Cameron for The New York Times: “Some Republicans Have a Blunt Message for Chris Christie: Drop Out” Ed Kilgore for the Intelligencer: “Christie Vows to Continue Doomed Campaign to the Bitter End” Amy Howe for SCOTUSblog: “Court conflicted over Purdue Pharma bankruptcy plan that shields Sacklers from liability” Abbie VanSickle and Jan Hoffman for The New York Times: “What to Know About the Purdue Pharma Case Before the Supreme Court” Jocelyn Mackie for Forbes Advisor:Prescription Opioid Lawsuit Guide (2023) Alexander Gladstone for The Wall Street Journal:Georgia-Pacific Wins Appeal to Maintain Chapter 11 Protection From Lawsuits Here are this week’s chatters: Emily:First: Sandra Day O’Connorby Evan Thomas John:Master of Change: How to Excel When Everything Is Changing – Including Youby Brad Stulberg;Monty Python – Silly Job Interview; andJohn Cleese on Creativity In Management David:Going Zero: A Novelby Anthony McCarten andSuch a Fun Age: A Novelby Kiley Reid Listener chatter fromRyan White: Zaria Gorvett for the BBC:Tyrian purple: The lost ancient pigment that was more valuable than gold For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, David, John, and Emily talk through a constitutional Conundrum. See also Wikipedia:Gouverneur Morris. In the next Gabfest Reads, John talks with Brad Stulberg aboutMaster of Change: How to Excel When Everything Is Changing – Including You. Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Hosts Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the good U.S. economy and Americans’ bad feelings about it; the Supreme Court case of SEC v. Jarkesy and its threat to the system of U.S. government; and white evangelicals and Christian nationalists withThe Atlantic’s Tim Alberta. Send us your Conundrums: submit them atslate.com/conundrum. And join us in-person or online forGabfest Live: The Conundrums Edition! December 7 atThe 92nd Street Y, New York City.Tickets on sale now! Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Sam Sutton for Politico:Why a ‘soft landing’ may not solve Biden’s polling problem Lydia DePillis for The New York Times:Even Most Biden Voters Don’t See a Thriving Economy;Paul Krugman:Bidenomics and the Guys in the Bar;Jim Tankersley:‘Morning in America’ Eludes Biden, Despite Economic Gains; and Bryce Covert:Don’t Let Inflation Bury the Memory of a Government Triumph Dylan Matthews for Vox:Why the news is so negative – and what we can do about it David Winston for Roll Call:Why Voters Are Still Wary 10 Years After the Economic Collapse Robert Barnes for The Washington Post:Supreme Court conservatives seem dubious about SEC’s in-house tribunals Ronald Mann for SCOTUSblog:Supreme Court to consider multi-pronged constitutional attack on SEC Noah Rosenblum for The Atlantic:The Case That Could Destroy the Government Ian Millhiser for Vox:A Supreme Court case about stocks could help make Trump’s authoritarian dreams reality Public Citizens: The Attack on Big Government and the Remaking of American Liberalismby Paul Sabin Tim Alberta for The Atlantic:My Father, My Faith, and Donald TrumpandHow Politics Poisoned The Evangelical Church The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremismby Tim Alberta Thomas B. Edsall for The New York Times:‘The Embodiment of White Christian Nationalism in a Tailored Suit’ PRRI and Brookings:A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: Brian Murphy for The Washington Post:Larry Fink, photographer who explored class divides, dies at 82and Emily Bazelon and Larry Fink for The New York Times Magazine:Shadow of a Doubt John:The New Yorker: “Bob and Don: A Love Story” a short documentary by Judd Apatow;CBS News Sunday Morning; andOath and Honor: A Memoir and a Warningby Liz Cheney David: Matt Phillips for The New York Times:Shane MacGowan, Songwriter Who Fused Punk and Irish Rebellion, Is Dead at 65and peyoteshaman on YouTube:Pogues 930 club mid 1980’s Listener chatter fromNicola in Dublin, Ireland: Irish Archaeology:Pangur BánandTread Softy: Classic Irish Poems for Childrenedited by Nicola Reddy For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, David, John, and Emily talk about the book lover’s dilemma: borrow or buy. See alsoA Wizard of Earthseaby Ursula K. Le Guin;Little Free Library;Adam Sockel for Perspectives on Reading:Library users are book buyers; and Pew Research Center:Libraries, patrons, and e-books. In the latestGabfest Reads, Emily talks with James Sturm aboutWatership Down: The Graphic Novel. See also James Sturm and Joe Sutphin in The New York Times:In Times of Danger, There’s Strength in Numbers. Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Hosts Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the problems with issue polling and issues with political journalism; the chaos and conflict of Sam Altman and OpenAI; and the failure of the Oslo Accords and perpetual struggle between Israel and Palestine. Send us your Conundrums: submit them atslate.com/conundrum. And join us in-person or online with our special guest –The Late Show’s Steven Colbert– forGabfest Live: The Conundrums Edition! December 7 atThe 92nd Street Y, New York City.Tickets on sale now! Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Nate Cohn for The New York Times:The Crisis in Issue Polling, and What We’re Doing About ItandWe Did an Experiment to See How Much Democracy and Abortion Matter to Voters Claire Cain Miller and Francesca Paris for The New York Times:The Great Disconnect: Why Voters Feel One Way About the Economy but Act Differently The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-Events in Americaby Daniel J. Boorstin What’s the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of Americaby Thomas Frank Eli Saslow for The New York Times:A Jan. 6 Defendant Pleads His Case to the Son Who Turned Him In Brian Beutler for the Off Message newsletter:The 2024 Election Is About Real Things Charlie Warzel for The Atlantic:The Money Always Winsand Karen Hao and Charlie Warzel:Inside the Chaos at OpenAI John Dickerson and Jo Ling Kent for CBS News Prime Time:What Sam Altman’s ouster from OpenAI could mean for the tech world Pranshu Verman, Nitasha Tiku, and Gerrit De Vynck for The Washington Post:Sam Altman reinstated as OpenAI CEO with new board members Louise Matsakis and Reed Albergotti for Semafor:The AI industry turns against its favorite philosophy Emily Bazelon for The New York Times Magazine:Was Peace Ever Possible? Ezra Klein for The New York Times’s The Ezra Klein Show podcast:The Best Primer I’ve Heard on Israeli-Palestinian Peace Efforts Osloon HBO John Dickerson for CBS Mornings:Former President Jimmy Carter: “America will learn from its mistakes” The Lady Bird Diarieson Hulu Eleanor Roosevelt in a Coalby Bettman and The George Washington University’sCase Study: Eleanor Roosevelt’s Visit to Coal Mine (1935) Here are this week’s chatters: John: Julia Simon for NPR:‘It feels like I’m not crazy.’ Gardeners aren’t surprised as USDA updates key mapand U.S. Department of Agriculture, Agricultural Research Service:USDA Unveils Updated Plant Hardiness Zone Map Emily: Liran Samuni and Martin Surbeck in Science:Cooperation across social borders in bonobosandThe Bonobo Sisterhood: Revolution Through Female Allianceby Diane Rosenfeld David:City Cast Executive Producer, Nashville, Executive Producer, Austin, and Events Director, remoteand The National WWII Museum:WWII Veteran Statistics Listener chatter fromDimitri in Boulder, Colorado: University of Evansville:Library of Congress Recognizes Plagiarized University of Evansville Archaeologist After 90 Yearsand Jessica Blake for Inside Higher Ed:Female Archaeologist’s Work Receives Overdue Recognition—90 Years Later For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, David, John, and Emily talk about the death of former First Lady Rosalynn Carter and her 77-year marriage with Jimmy Carter. See also Rick Rojas for The New York Times:The Carters’ Hometown Mourns for the Love of a Lifetimeand Peter Baker:Rosalynn Carter Helped Shape the Role of the Modern First Lady. In the latestGabfest Reads, Emily talks with James Sturm aboutWatership Down: The Graphic Novel. See also James Sturm and Joe Sutphin in The New York Times:In Times of Danger, There’s Strength in Numbers. Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Emily Bazelon talks withcartoonistJames Sturm, about his new graphic novel adaptation ofWatership Down. They discuss what makes the animal characters so compelling, goingtharn[MOU1], whereWatership Downfits in the literary tradition, and so much more. Tweet us your questions@SlateGabfestor email us [email protected]. (Messages could be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth. [MOU1]A word I haven’t thought of in years—stopped me in my tracks! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss Joe Manchin’s departure from the U.S. Senate and what it means for the Democratic majority, No Labels, and the 2024 presidential race; the Supreme Court’s new code of conduct and whether it’s worthless; and the Israel-Hamas war and how it’s affecting Democratic politics. You can be a part of the show: submit your Conundrum atslate.com/conundrum. And join us forConundrums Live! December 7 atThe 92nd Street Y, New York City. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Zeeshan Aleem for MSNBC: “Joe Manchin’s triple blow to the Democrats” Brittany Gibson and Shia Kapos for Politico: “Pelosi launches an all-out attack against No Labels” Wikipedia: “Assume a can opener” The Supreme Court of the United States: “Code of Conduct for Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States” Adam Liptak for The New York Times: “Supreme Court’s New Ethics Code Is Toothless, Experts Say” Maria Abi-Habib, Michael Crowley, and Edward Wong for The New York Times: “More Than 500 U.S. Officials Sign Letter Protesting Biden’s Israel Policy” Sam Fossum, Morgan Rimmer, and Manu Raju for CNN: “Top House Democrats evacuated from DNC headquarters as police clash with protesters calling for Gaza ceasefire” Liz Goodwin for The Washington Post: “Bernie Sanders faces blowback as progressives urge cease-fire in Gaza” George Packer for The Atlantic: “Israel Must Not React Stupidly” Thomas L Friedman for The New York Times: “I Have Never Been to This Israel Before” Declan Walsh and Abdi Latif Dahir for The New York Times: “Seizing Darfur Region, Paramilitary Forces Are Accused of Atrocities” Jennifer Jacobs for Fortune and Bloomberg: “Why a group of ‘everyday people’ in Iowa have been invited to dinner by Chinese president Xi Jinping: ‘We’re eager to meet with him’” Iowa PBS: “Citizen Diplomacy” The Economist’s The Prince podcast: “7: Wolf warriors” Muscatine County, Iowa: “History” Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: HBO’s movieOslo John: John Dickerson onInstagramandCovenant House Sleep Out; Alex Wilkins for New Scientist: “Robotic chemist discovers how to make oxygen from Martian minerals” David: Michael Balsamo for AP: “Secret Service agents protecting Biden’s granddaughter open fire when 3 people try to break into SUV”; Washington, D.C. Metropolitan Police:Carjacking;Exploring a Secret Fortwith David through airbnb Listener chatter from David, Alameda, California: Chloe Olewitz for Morsel: “Over 100 Years Ago, the US Government Commissioned 7,500 Watercolor Paintings of Every Kind of Fruit in the Country” and U.S. Department of Agriculture, National Agricultural Library: “USDA Pomological Watercolors” In the next Gabfest Reads, Emily talks with James Sturm aboutWatership Down: The Graphic Novel. See also James Sturm and Joe Sutphin in The New York Times: “In Times of Danger, There’s Strength in Numbers.” Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Hosts Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the 2023 election results and Democratic wins in Ohio, Virginia, and Kentucky; President Joe Biden’s numbers in recent polls and the youth vote; and U.S. v. Rahimi at the Supreme Court, the 2nd Amendment and gun control, and the history and tradition test. And you can be a part of the show: submit your Conundrum atslate.com/conundrum. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Lisa Lerer and Shane Goldmacher for The New York Times: “Abortion Rights Fuel Big Democratic Wins, and Hopes for 2024” Molly Olmstead for Slate: “Sean Hannity Had Quite the Takeaway About Abortion After Tuesday’s Elections" Kate Zernike for The New York Times: “Ohio Vote Continues a Winning Streak for Abortion Rights” Laura Vozzella for The Washington Post: “Democratic wins in Virginia could deflate Youngkin’s White House buzz” Hannah Knowles and Dylan Wells for The Washington Post: “Democrat Andy Beshear wins reelection for governor in Kentucky” Matthew Yglesias for Slow Boring: “23 thoughts on the 2023 midterms” John Dickerson for The Atlantic Festival 2023: “Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro on Leading a Key Swing State” Shane Goldmacher for The New York Times: “Trump Leads in 5 Critical States as Voters Blast Biden, Times/Siena Poll Finds“ Jonathan Swan, Ruth Igielnik, and Maggie Haberman for The New York Times: “Trump Indictments Haven’t Sunk His Campaign, but a Conviction Might” Nate Cohn for The New York Times: “Why Biden Is Behind, and How He Could Come Back” Philip Bump for The Washington Post: “Are young voters actually split between Trump and Biden?” Daniel A. Cox for the AEI Survey Center on American Life: “Why are Young Voters So Down on Joe Biden?” Pew Research Center’s Beyond Red Vs. Blue: The Political Typology: “Outsider Left” Sudiksha Kochi for USA Today: “Former Obama adviser Axelrod says Biden should consider dropping out of 2024” Robert Barnes for The Washington Post: “Court seems likely to allow gun bans for those under protective orders” Jordan Smith for The Intercept: “In Overturning Roe, Radical Supreme Court Declares War on the 14th Amendment” Thomas Jefferson: “To James Madison From Thomas Jefferson, 6 September 1789” Ulysses S. Grant Revealed: “President Ulysses S. Grant On The U.S. Constitution” Michael Barbaro and Jonah E. Bromwich for The New York Times’s The Daily podcast: “The Trumps Take the Stand” Here are this week’s chatters: John: Reuters: “Napoleon’s hat heading to auction in France”; Marielle Brie: “Napoleon Bonaparte’s Bicorne Hat”; and Kai McNamee for NPR: “Lost French love letters from the 1750s reveal what life was like during wartime” Emily:Liberty Puzzles David: Jessica Sidman for Washingtonian: “Why Is Dallas on the Cover of This DC Guidebook?” Listener chatter from Sheila McIntyre:Sophie Mann-Shafir for The Provincetown Independent: “TPRTA Misled Members on Voter Registration; Town Meeting Postponed” For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David talk about the trial testimony by the Trump family – Donald, Donald, Jr., Eric, and Ivanka – in the civil case of New York v. Trump. In the latestGabfest Reads, David talks with Kristi Coulter about her book,Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career. Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss Nikki Haley’s progress and Ron DeSantis’s stagnation in Iowa, Donald Trump’s testimony in New York, and Dean Phillips’s campaign in New Hampshire; the first social-media cases of the term at the Supreme Court; andOurs Was the Shining Future: The Story of the American Dreamwith authorDavid Leonhardt. And you can be a part of the show: submit your Conundrum atslate.com/conundrum. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Brianne Pfannenstiel for the Des Moines Register: “Donald Trump builds on big lead as Nikki Haley pulls even with Ron DeSantis in Iowa Poll” Jennifer Rubin for The Washington Post: “Nikki Haley has a shot. But a really, really long one.” Jonah E. Bromwich and Ben Protess for The New York Times: “Trump Civil Fraud Trial: Donald Trump Jr. Resumes Testifying in Fraud Case Aimed at His Father” Geoffrey Skelley for 538:The curious case of Dean Phillips’s last-minute primary challenge 538: “How popular is Joe Biden?” Jeff Neal for Harvard Law Today: “The Supreme Court takes on (anti)social media” Adam Liptak for The New York Times: “Supreme Court Lifts Limits for Now on Biden Officials’ Contacts With Tech Platforms” Amy Howe for SCOTUSblog: “Justices take major Florida and Texas social media cases” Ours Was the Shining Future: The Story of the American DreambyDavid Leonhardt Emily Bazelon for The New York Times’sThe Morning newsletter, November 2, 2023 David Leonhardt for The Atlantic: “The Hard Truth About Immigration” Peter Dizikes for MIT News: “Q&A: David Autor on the long afterlife of the “China shock”” History.com: “A. Philip Randolph” Natasha Singer for The New York Times: “This Florida School District Banned Cellphones. Here’s What Happened.” and “New Laws on Kids and Social Media Are Stymied by Industry Lawsuits” Cristiano Lima and Naomi Nix for The Washington Post: “41 states sue Meta, claiming Instagram, Facebook are addictive, harm kids” Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: The New Yorker’s Poetry Podcast with Kevin Young: “Toi Derricotte Reads Tracy K. Smith” John: The Graham Norton Show: “Dame Judi Dench Masterfully Does A Shakespeare Sonnet”; BBC Radio 4’sCabin Pressure;Endeavouron PBS Masterpiece; John Dickerson for CBS News Prime Time: “Grammy-winning artist Jason Isbell talks about the craft of songwriting and his latest music”; and Ray Bradbury in the Los Angeles Times: “’Ice Cream Suit’--Touchstone for the Past and Present” David: Sarah Zhang for The Atlantic: “Everything I Thought I Knew About Nasal Congestion Is Wrong” Listener chatter from Albert Fox Cahn:N’dea Yancey-Bragg for USA Today: “Advocates say excited delirium provides cover for police violence. They want it banned” and John Dickerson for CBS News 60 Minutes: “How a questionable syndrome, “Excited Delirium,” could be protecting police officers from misconduct charges” For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David talk about classroom cellphone bans. In the latestGabfest Reads, David talks with Kristi Coulter about her book,Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career. Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz take the show on the road and gab live with Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers; discuss the new Speaker of the House Mike Johnson; and review the former lawyers and Chief of Staff who will testify against Donald Trump. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: City Cast Madison podcastandMadison Minutes newsletter Jennifer Rubin for The Washington Post: “Wisconsin Dems’ big wins for the rule of law might be an inflection point” Scott Bauer for AP: “Wisconsin Supreme Court asked to draw new legislative boundaries over Republican objections” James Hohmann for The Washington Post: “In Wisconsin, Tony Evers made a virtue of being dull” Amy Gardner and Michael Kranish for The Washington Post: “New speaker Mike Johnson’s 2020 election denial could have 2024 implications” Carl Hulse for The New York Times: “The Far Right Gets Its Man of the House” Ours Was the Shining Future: The Story of the American Dreamby David Leonhardt Katherine Faulders, Mike Levine, and Alexander Mallin for ABC News: “Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources” Paul Blumenthal for HuffPost: “The Guilty Pleas In Trump’s Georgia Indictment Are Starting To Roll Uphill” David French for The New York Times: “Trump’s Lawyers Are Going Down. Is He?” Here are this week’s chatters: John: Mark Shanahan for The Boston Globe: “The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 was Boston’s strangest disaster“ andDark Tide: The Great Molasses Flood of 1919by Stephen Puleo Emily:Hesket Oslo podcastbyArnon Degani;This Is Palestine podcastby theInstitute for Middle East Understanding; and The Ezra Klein Show podcast: “The Jewish Left Is Trying to Hold Two Thoughts at Once” David:Vocal coach Karen Harrisand “Jersey Girl” by Tom Waits Listener chatter from Jake Sinderbrand:University of Wisconsin-Madison: “Wisconsin Idea” andBabcock Dairy Store Listener chatter from Mike Duncan:The Storm Before the Storm: The Beginning of the End of the Roman Republic;Hero of Two Worlds: The Marquis de Lafayette in the Age of Revolution;The History of Rome podcast; andRevolutions podcast For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David answer questions from the Madison audience. In the latestGabfest Reads, David talks with Kristi Coulter about her book,Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career. Email your chatters, questions, and comments [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Tim Peterson. Special thanks to Katie Rayford. Research by Julie Huygen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices