Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth

Seth and Rob were able to track songwriter/guitarist Dan "Lebo" Lebowitz down to get an update about how he and his family are handling this unprecedented societal situation.  He gives us a window toward how he is staying in touch and continuing to create with his band, ALO. Lebo also talks about some of his experiences performing streamed concerts from his house, and what he has recently learned about, and some moving interactions with his fan base. He also talks about some of the streams he has been watching, and offers a little song that these experiences have inspired. We even get a little history lesson as Dan riffs with the hosts about the Spanish Flu pandemic. A conversation about ALO's annual Tour D'Amour kindly leads to Dan sharing some stories about Wavy Gravy, Steve Kimock, Bob Weir and Phil Lesh.

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Rob and Seth first share some of their thoughts on the current Coronavirus COVID-19 -driven nightmare. Rob relates how he wants to devote all of the show's energy to helping people who have lost jobs in the music and entertainment industry, and Seth announced his forthcoming Virtual Passover Seder to raise money for Conscious Alliance. Then they speak with Scott Bernstein of JamBase. Scott talks about how JamBase "pivoted" and swiftly developed a new "Live Streams" section of the web site - he specifically points to the web site's developer Todd Levy and CEO David Onigman for their vital efforts in getting this done so quickly. Scott also takes us into his personal experience living and working in New York City while it is one of the epicenters of a global pandemic.  He talks about how some in his building have tested positive, and about how he finds comfort in the way his neighbors show the health care workers their appreciation on a nightly basis. The conversation shifts to finding hope in the currently bleak future of the music business, and Scotty shares his experience attending The Brothers and the Love Rocks concerts the same week that this virus began to consume New York. The one and only ScottyB also talks about how Eddie Roberts' The Payback organization has teamed with Color Red Music and The Sound Mind Collective to launch a fund to support musicians struggling financially during this Coronavirus COVID-19 fucking nightmare,

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Rob and Seth check in with each other we all are in quarantine. Seth surprises Rob with some music trivia. Sending LOVE to all our friends out there.

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Seth and Rob chat with Peter Tempkins - an insurance broker specializing in the live music world. He talks about how COVID-19 has recently consumed his life, and gives specific examples of how the nature of various insurance policies impact the risk that artists and festivals will assume moving forward. He also talks about how many of the decisions to cancel are made, and how the cause of these decisions impacts compensation. Tempkins also speculates on how the virus could impact live events this summer based on recent developments. He also offers some general commentary on the situation. Shortly after this interview was conducted, the NBA suspended it's season and the US government banned travel to Europe. Rob and Seth offer their own commentary from after these developments.

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During Umphrey's McGee's two night arena run in Asheville, North Carolina, new Umphrey's McGee Lighting Designer (and long-time listener to this podcast) Ben Factor broke off a few minutes to speak with Rob Turner.  The conversation starts with a discussion about the nuances of some of the rooms Factor had just worked and some of the new lighting approaches he's bringing to the world of Umphrey's McGee. Then they jump into the Wayback Machine and Ben waxes poetic about his parents and what led up to him attending the University of Michigan for sound engineering. Factor talks about how the lighting work of Jefferson Waful (who was UM's previous LD) was his initial inspiration to start exploring the world of lighting. We learn how the bands Mungion and Spafford and specific people Ben met along the way (including the lighting designer Luke Stratton) all played roles in Factor's Road To Umph. We also get to hear about the process of trying out for the Umphrey's job, his preparation for his first shows with Umphrey's and what it was like to light an hour-plus, full-set version of the band's iconic musclequirk'y song, "Ringo." The episode ends with acoustic guitar whiz Billy Strings donning an electric guitar to jam with Umphrey's McGee (from the night before when this interview took place).

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Railroad Earth kindly came into Diamond Street Studios in between the Colorado and Georgia portions of their most recent New Year's run. The band played three songs from their 2020 release, All For The Song (including the title track). Principal songwriter and lead vocalist Todd Sheaffer stuck around after this performance to chat with Rob and Seth. Todd talks about how the band negotiated their way through the recent devastating loss of founding member and multi-instrumentalist Andy Goessling. We learn how his loss influenced the All For The Song record, and how the band still feels him with them as they move forward a different twist on their live sound. Todd talks about how Col. Bruce Hampton was a big part of them finding bassist Andrew Altman, and how Altman in turn brought into the RRE fold another Bruce Hampton alum, Matt Slocumb. Todd jokes around plenty - but gets serious when he recalls the night he and his previous band From Good Homes opened for Bob Weir and Ratdog on the night Jerry Garcia died. The other two songs performed were "Slipping Away" and "The Great Divide."

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This episode features Rob's interview with guitarist and songwriter John Kadlecik, who comes roaring out the gate with some strikingly candid commentary on previous songwriter collaborations. John talks about how it feels as though "ancient intelligence" takes over during improvisation, about how while in Furthur he was able to find his space between the approaches of Bob Weir and Phil Lesh (from tempo to touring preferences) and playfully speaks of Mickey Hart "raiding" a Hunter lyric John had put to song. John talks about his early days, particularly one early teacher's response to John's interest in learning how to improvise on violin. He also talks about his various pre-Dark Star Orchestra musical outfits, and some of the decision points behind initially committing his musical life to, and the eventual evolution of DSO. John and Rob move through a ton of topics, spending a bit of time on JK's <em>On The Road</em> release in general, with John shedding particular light on the story behind "The Hanging of John Collins" in particular. We even learn of how John attended Phish's Clifford Ball as a guest of the band's drummer Jon Fishman, of how JK was surprised to learn that his own musical ethos was in some part an echo of that of Bach, about his experience playing Radio City Music Hall with Furthur in the immediate wake of Weir and Lesh learning of the death of "Bear" Owsley and about the time John met John Barlow. The episode ends with a skeletal version of "So Blue" which John wrote with Robert Hunter

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This episode features the wildly versatile singer/songwriter/musician Keller Williams, who comes right out the gate with enthusiastic tales from his experiences with his family seeing theater on Broadway. Williams was on the heels of having just released three records (ADD, SANS and SPEED) and he shares insight about each, particularly SPEED, his third with the spirited acoustic musicians Larry and Jenny Keel. Before the first of three exclusive performances, Keller gets inspired to read the lyrics of (and tell the story behind) a piece he is working on in honor of Col. Bruce Hampton. The ever-chatty and opinionated Williams dishes on a variety of topics, and we hear a bunch of music from his performance at Terminal West in Atlanta 12.28.19.

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This episode features Rob's interview with Kellen Asebroek of Fruition from last fall. They discuss the two EP's this band has released recently (Wild As The Night last fall and Broken At The Break of Day early in 2020), how having 14 new songs in play makes writing setlists more fun. Many of the songs are results of the band becoming more collaborative than ever and increasingly able to have open, clear and at times blunt communication with regard to composing and recording songs. Kellen also elaborates on how the members' families encouragement was key to them getting through the very earliest days of the band, how Fruition's music has evolved in the live setting, how he was influenced as a musician and a person by Jack Johnson and KA offers his response to seeing his first live Phish show. These two discuss plenty more, and not only does Kellen tell a nice JamCruise story from the past, but in the episode outro which follows Seth returns to share his thoughts on the 2020 JamCruise.

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This episode features the second part of Rob's lengthy chat with Marc Brownstein, the bassist of Star Kitchen and Disco Biscuits. Marc explains how the initial genesis of Star Kitchen occurred when he chased down guitarist Danny Mayer at Mayer's son's little league baseball game. Brownstein goes on to reveal how the band decided to add keyboardist Rob Marscher and drummer Marlon Lewis and the spices that each continue to bring to the kitchen. We even hear a snippet of a song from Roadside Attraction, one of Rob's first bands. Marc also relates that while they are learning classic soul/R&B music, they for the most part are focusing on deep cuts, and as one fan commented - they are essentially, "taking these classic songs are remixing them live." Marc relates how he became a better musician just by playing and sharing notes with John Kadlecik, shares some insight on modes + scales, explains how "off-time" songs work best when most listeners don't even realize the song's unique tempo and he gives examples of how his approach to songwriting has evolved He also relates his memory of the night that his bandmates Aron Magner and (original drummer) Sam Altman spontaneously came up with the sound that would become a significant part of the band's future. Brownie also points to three things that greatly fueled The Biscuits' growth and tells a fantastic Stanley Jordan story. This episode also offers a good bit of Star Kitchen's performance in Atlanta last fall, opening for The New Mastersounds.

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