Curious Minds at Work

No one likes uncertainty, yet our success may depend on it. In the bestseller, Nonsense: The Power of Not Knowing, Jamie Holmes argues that uncertainty and ambiguity are invaluable mindsets in an increasingly complex world. In fact, he wants us to rethink our desire for order and closure, so that we can be better leaders, decision makers, and innovators. A recent Future Tense Fellow at New America, Jamie has written for the New York Times, the New Yorker, the Philadelphia Inquirer, CNN, the Huffington Post, POLITICO, the Christian Science Monitor, the New Republic, the Atlantic, Slate, Foreign Policy, and the Daily Beast. In this episode you will learn: the reasons why a high tolerance for uncertainty is so valuable right now the ways we can use uncertainty to avoid bad decisions how our need for closure and order drives so much of what we do the value of uncertainty for innovation and creativity strategies for guarding against negative behaviors associated withcertainty when (and how) to hire employees who thrive on uncertainty the kinds of leaders we prefer versus need in times of uncertainty how successful, innovative companies incorporate uncertainty into their business models what this means for educators and learners the real-world disorder and chaos associated with innovation, discovery, and creativity concrete strategies to help students get more comfortable with uncertainty what a renowned golf instructor can teach us about feedback the power of travel and bilingualism for building this capacity the power of reading fiction for helping us strengthen our tolerance for uncertainty Jamie also shares how uncertainty, ambiguity and not knowing make us better leaders and expand our capacity for innovation and creativity. Episode Links Jerome Bruner Leo Postman Travis Proulx Jordan Peterson Arie Kruglanski Need for Closure scale Stalling for Time by Gary Noesner Ambiguity Intolerance Zara Inditex Amancio Ortega Jim Lang Assumption College Brilliant Blunders by Mario Livio Bob Christina Dean Simonton If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

At 16, Madison Maxey was the youngest to intern at Tommy Hilfiger. Shortly after that, she founded her company, The Crated, a product innovation studio focused on second-generation wearable technology. Then, she went to college, like she was supposed to do. But for Maddy, there was a disconnect between the feelings that she received from her work and sitting in college classes.So after one semester of college, she dropped out to accept a Thiel Fellowship. Since then her work has been featured in Wired, Fast Company, and New York Magazine, and she has provided wearable tech insights to the likes of the White House and Google. She has been named a founder to watch by Women 2.0 and is an Entrepreneur in Residence at General Assembly and an Artist in Residence at Autodesk. This week, in a special edition of Curious Minds, I share interviews with four young people, ages 18-22, each of whom decided either to drop out or never attend college, in order to pursue work that mattered to them. Each is either a current or past recipient of a Thiel Fellowship, a program founded in 2011 by Peter Thiel to encourage young people to sidestep college and a traditional life path, in order to chart their own course as entrepreneurs. In this episode you will hear Madison talk about: innovations in wearable technology what motivated her to learn programming why she dropped out of college after one semester her eagerness to be a Thiel Fellow her passion for costume design and design optimization what her parents thought about her decision to drop out of college her policy of You Do You the importance of finding your tribe how communication skills inform her work her work in relation to the Maker Movement how uncertainty is a natural part of innovation why young people should be working on projects right now how she had to learn the skills of time management her curiosity about teamwork, collaboration, and community in relation to a goal Episode Links Digital Fabrication Textile Circuits General Assembly Autodesk Computational Design 3D CNC Machine Workflows Arduino Enabling Technologies Nathan Wolfe TEDTalk If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

At 16, Madison Maxey was the youngest to intern at Tommy Hilfiger. Shortly after that, she founded her company, The Crated, a product innovation studio focused on second-generation wearable technology. Then, she went to college, like she was supposed to do. But for Maddy, there was a disconnect between the feelings that she received from her work and sitting in college classes.So after one semester of college, she dropped out to accept a Thiel Fellowship. Since then her work has been featured in Wired, Fast Company, and New York Magazine, and she has provided wearable tech insights to the likes of the White House and Google. She has been named a founder to watch by Women 2.0 and is an Entrepreneur in Residence at General Assembly and an Artist in Residence at Autodesk. This week, in a special edition of Curious Minds, I share interviews with four young people, ages 18-22, each of whom decided either to drop out or never attend college, in order to pursue work that mattered to them. Each is either a current or past recipient of a Thiel Fellowship, a program founded in 2011 by Peter Thiel to encourage young people to sidestep college and a traditional life path, in order to chart their own course as entrepreneurs. In this episode you will hear Madison talk about: innovations in wearable technology what motivated her to learn programming why she dropped out of college after one semester her eagerness to be a Thiel Fellow her passion for costume design and design optimization what her parents thought about her decision to drop out of college her policy of You Do You the importance of finding your tribe how communication skills inform her work her work in relation to the Maker Movement how uncertainty is a natural part of innovation why young people should be working on projects right now how she had to learn the skills of time management her curiosity about teamwork, collaboration, and community in relation to a goal Episode Links Digital Fabrication Textile Circuits General Assembly Autodesk Computational Design 3D CNC Machine Workflows Arduino Enabling Technologies Nathan Wolfe TEDTalk If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

Alex Koren had never considered dropping out of college. A successful high school student, he headed to Johns Hopkins University and was class president in his first year. Furthermore, that summer, Alex headed to a high-powered summer internship at Intel, seemingly the perfect opportunity for an undergraduate engineering major. Then something happened. While working at Intel, Alex organized a hackathon that led to his first company, Hyv, which focused on solving big problems with data. The engagement and exhilaration that he felt led him to found the company Chrg, with the goal of using everyday outlets and chargers in service of electric vehicles. Not long after that, Alex dropped out of college to accept 2014 Thiel Fellow. This week, in a special edition of Curious Minds, I share interviews with four young people, ages 18-22, each of whom decided either to drop out or never attend college, in order to pursue work that mattered to them. Each is either a current or past recipient of a Thiel Fellowship, a program founded in 2011 by Peter Thiel to encourage young people to sidestep college and a traditional life path, in order to chart their own course as entrepreneurs. In this episode you will hear Alex talk about: what he learned about failure how pursuing work that mattered meant doing something that shocked even him how to create communities for your passions the difference between a life of extrinsic versus intrinsic motivation the importance of living with uncertainty as you pursue your goals the power of surrounding yourself with passionate people our responsibility to make things relevant for ourselves the reasons that we lose our creativity his attraction to what tomorrow holds Episode Links Interroga Omnia If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

Alex Koren had never considered dropping out of college. A successful high school student, he headed to Johns Hopkins University and was class president in his first year. Furthermore, that summer, Alex headed to a high-powered summer internship at Intel, seemingly the perfect opportunity for an undergraduate engineering major. Then something happened. While working at Intel, Alex organized a hackathon that led to his first company, Hyv, which focused on solving big problems with data. The engagement and exhilaration that he felt led him to found the company Chrg, with the goal of using everyday outlets and chargers in service of electric vehicles. Not long after that, Alex dropped out of college to accept 2014 Thiel Fellow. This week, in a special edition of Curious Minds, I share interviews with four young people, ages 18-22, each of whom decided either to drop out or never attend college, in order to pursue work that mattered to them. Each is either a current or past recipient of a Thiel Fellowship, a program founded in 2011 by Peter Thiel to encourage young people to sidestep college and a traditional life path, in order to chart their own course as entrepreneurs. In this episode you will hear Alex talk about: what he learned about failure how pursuing work that mattered meant doing something that shocked even him how to create communities for your passions the difference between a life of extrinsic versus intrinsic motivation the importance of living with uncertainty as you pursue your goals the power of surrounding yourself with passionate people our responsibility to make things relevant for ourselves the reasons that we lose our creativity his attraction to what tomorrow holds Episode Links Interroga Omnia If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

Jihad Kawas started his company, Saily, when he was 16 years old growing up in Lebanon. Now, two years later, after a recent public launch, his app has over 140,000 U.S. users and is gaining over 1,000 new users daily. Jihad is a 2015 Thiel Fellow who never attended college. Along the way, he was awarded a Forbes 30 Under 30 Scholarship, took first place at an MIT Social Innovation Camp, and has been a TEDx Talk speaker. This week, in a special edition of Curious Minds, I share interviews with four young people, ages 18-22, each of whom decided either to drop out or never attend college, in order to pursue work that mattered. Each is either a current or past recipient of a Thiel Fellowship, a program founded in 2011 by Peter Thiel to encourage young people to sidestep college and a traditional life path, in order to chart their own course as entrepreneurs. In this episode you will learn: how building things as a young person led him to where he is today why parents need to let their children build real, meaningful things his beliefs regarding the impact of parents, families, and schools on young people ways even cutting-edge schools have rules and policies that constrain how he viewed school as something to get through in order to pursue his passion the power of having to develop a pitch to persuade and convince the funny way he found out about the Thiel Fellows program what it is like to be an 18-year-old Thiel Fellow and company founder how the success and accomplishments of his peers spur him on how he spends his time about the constant battle he faces with uncertainty and doubt about his advice for young people what he is curious about today Episode Links Project-based Learning Apple Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) TEDx Talk by Jihad Kawas Silicon Valley TV show If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

Jihad Kawas started his company, Saily, when he was 16 years old growing up in Lebanon. Now, two years later, after a recent public launch, his app has over 140,000 U.S. users and is gaining over 1,000 new users daily. Jihad is a 2015 Thiel Fellow who never attended college. Along the way, he was awarded a Forbes 30 Under 30 Scholarship, took first place at an MIT Social Innovation Camp, and has been a TEDx Talk speaker. This week, in a special edition of Curious Minds, I share interviews with four young people, ages 18-22, each of whom decided either to drop out or never attend college, in order to pursue work that mattered. Each is either a current or past recipient of a Thiel Fellowship, a program founded in 2011 by Peter Thiel to encourage young people to sidestep college and a traditional life path, in order to chart their own course as entrepreneurs. In this episode you will learn: how building things as a young person led him to where he is today why parents need to let their children build real, meaningful things his beliefs regarding the impact of parents, families, and schools on young people ways even cutting-edge schools have rules and policies that constrain how he viewed school as something to get through in order to pursue his passion the power of having to develop a pitch to persuade and convince the funny way he found out about the Thiel Fellows program what it is like to be an 18-year-old Thiel Fellow and company founder how the success and accomplishments of his peers spur him on how he spends his time about the constant battle he faces with uncertainty and doubt about his advice for young people what he is curious about today Episode Links Project-based Learning Apple Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) TEDx Talk by Jihad Kawas Silicon Valley TV show If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

At the age of 16, Charlie Stigler built SelfControl, an app designed to block out online distractions. It has been downloaded by millions. Encouraged by that success, two years later, Charlie founded a successful ed tech company, Zaption, which rethinks the use of video for learning. He did both before the ink was dry on his high school diploma. After graduation, Charlie did what everyone expected him to do. He headed off to college at Columbia University. Two years later, even he was surprised when he decided to drop out and become a Thiel Fellow in 2012. This week, in a special edition of Curious Minds, I share interviews with four young people, ages 18-22, each of whom decided either to drop out or never attend college, in order to pursue work that mattered. Each is either a current or past recipient of a Thiel Fellowship, a program founded in 2011 by Peter Thiel to encourage young people to sidestep college and a traditional life path, in order to chart their own course as entrepreneurs. In this episode you will hear: how the projects that got Charlie into college were the very things he had to give up once he got there ways friends and family responded to his decision to choose a different path what exposure to can-do, will-do entrepreneurs helped him see what we lose when everything is done for us how he learned to decide what structure looked like for him how his real learning was taking place outside of high school and college how high school did not support independent entrepreneurial thinking advice for young people how we delay and support young people in not knowing what they want to do rather than encouraging them to find out and supporting that how technology and artificial intelligence and the rapid pace of change is helping us rethink our shoulds Episode Links Steve Lambert James Stigler If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

At the age of 16, Charlie Stigler built SelfControl, an app designed to block out online distractions. It has been downloaded by millions. Encouraged by that success, two years later, Charlie founded a successful ed tech company, Zaption, which rethinks the use of video for learning. He did both before the ink was dry on his high school diploma. After graduation, Charlie did what everyone expected him to do. He headed off to college at Columbia University. Two years later, even he was surprised when he decided to drop out and become a Thiel Fellow in 2012. This week, in a special edition of Curious Minds, I share interviews with four young people, ages 18-22, each of whom decided either to drop out or never attend college, in order to pursue work that mattered. Each is either a current or past recipient of a Thiel Fellowship, a program founded in 2011 by Peter Thiel to encourage young people to sidestep college and a traditional life path, in order to chart their own course as entrepreneurs. In this episode you will hear: how the projects that got Charlie into college were the very things he had to give up once he got there ways friends and family responded to his decision to choose a different path what exposure to can-do, will-do entrepreneurs helped him see what we lose when everything is done for us how he learned to decide what structure looked like for him how his real learning was taking place outside of high school and college how high school did not support independent entrepreneurial thinking advice for young people how we delay and support young people in not knowing what they want to do rather than encouraging them to find out and supporting that how technology and artificial intelligence and the rapid pace of change is helping us rethink our shoulds Episode Links Steve Lambert James Stigler If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening!

Design thinking and creativity are like muscles: we all have them, but they are more useful when they are strengthened! In this bestselling book Reframe: Shift the Way You Work, Innovate, and Think, Mona Patel gives you the perfect exercises for your design workout, giving you the tools you need to unleash your inner designer. Mona is a regular contributor to Fast Company, Time Magazine, and Forbes, and she is the founder and CEO of Motivate Design. Mona is also an adjunct professor at Parsons School of Design.In this episode, she explains the ways design thinking informs her life and her work, and she shares some of the strategies she uses with friends, family, colleagues, and clients. In addition, you will learn: how to unleash your creativity through design thinking why everyone can be creative creative openers you can use with your teams questions that actually limit our creativity how to push people to create something better without making them feel bad the most important question for designing solutions which assumptions hold us back what it is like to be a woman of color leading a design company the power of a design-centered culture in the workplace If you enjoyed the podcast, please rate and review it on iTunes. For automatic delivery of new episodes, be sure to subscribe. Thanks for listening! Episode Links Four-C Model of Creativity by James Kaufman and Ronald Beghetto TEDx Talk by Mona Patel Ethnography Kodak Excuse Personas White Space Project Greenlight Human-centered Design Woman and Minority Owned Business Maslow Hierarchy of Needs