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Learning Experience Leader

by Greg Williams

The Learning Experience Leader Podcast is a project devoted to design, leadership, and the psychology of learning. The aim of the show is to help you expand your perspective of learning design through conversations with innovative professionals and scholars across the world.Every other week a different practitioner or researcher shares insights from their work and experience to bring a more holistic view on how learning happens and what we can do to create amazing learning experiences through design and leadership. If you are interested in how people learn and how you can be more effective in helping others grow and develop, then this podcast is for you.

Copyright: © 2023 Learning Experience Leader

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75// Evaluation and the Judgement of "What Is" against "What Should Be" with Dr. David Williams

1h 27m · Published 28 Dec 11:00

Today’s guest is my father Dr. David Williams. Dr. Williams is an emeritus professor from the Department of Instructional Psychology and Technology at Brigham Young University where he conducted and studied evaluations of teaching and learning in various settings. He currently serves as a missionary with his wife Denise for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints.

Today we discuss:

  • Everything Evaluation, what it is, and all of the moving parts associated with it
  • The difference between evaluation, measurement, and assessment
  • Dr. Williams’ 10 part evaluation model, along with multiple examples

Resources

  • Dr. Williams Evaluation Model (image): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VEGkVJMQYoJRX2SP4iSEVd8wqYtaRvRQ/view?usp=sharing
  • Seven North American Evaluation Pioneers (Book) https://books.google.com/books/about/Seven_North_American_Evaluation_Pioneers.html?id=8HpTDAAAQBAJ
  • Twenty-Nine Evaluation Lives (Book) https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ev.20273
  • Dr. Williams blog with entries about various individual evaluation lives: https://evaluationlives.blogspot.com/2017/08/introduction-and-invitation.html?m=1
  • Dr. Williams Qualitative Inquiry book (open access) mentioned in the end of our conversation - https://edtechbooks.org/qualitativeinquiry
  • Interview with Dr. Bonnie Beresford (episode 44) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/8659885
  • Interview with Megan Torrence (episode 63) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/8659853
  • Interview with Sam Whitney (episode 26) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/8659853
  • Interview with Beth Wilkins (episode 49) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/8659879
  • Malcolm Gladwell and testing (podcast episode) https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/puzzle-rush/

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Bonus: Measuring the Outcomes of Learning Programs

31m · Published 14 Dec 11:00

Today's show is a solo episode in which Greg gives an audio version of a mini-research study he conducted this year.

Check out the article here, and don't miss all the resources listed at the end!

https://uxdesign.cc/solving-the-greatest-challenge-to-measuring-organizational-outcomes-of-learning-programs-5e4677a78ca7

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74 // Building Your Career Using Product Management Tools with Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts

47m · Published 30 Nov 11:00

Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts join me again, but this time to talk about career development using PM tools and mindsets. Together they host Path into Product, a podcast for college students or professionals considering a career as a product manager but don't know where to start. Both Aaron and Ash are currently working as Product Managers at Weave Communications and have previous experience working with and in learning design environments.


Today we discuss:

  • Building your career through curiosity, experimentation, and data collection
  • Examples and stories of using product management tools for personal development
  • The importance of reflection and giving yourself space to be wrong
  • Using product management prioritization principles in career decisions

Resources

  • Path into Product Podcast - https://anchor.fm/pathintoproduct
  • Design Your Life (Book): https://designingyour.life/the-book/
  • Design Your Worklife (Book Review Podcast Episode): https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/episodes/8659877
  • Aaron’s article, “Want to be a Product Manager in Tech? Study the Humanities”: https://medium.com/@aaron.airmet/want-to-be-a-product-manager-in-tech-study-the-humanities-4ff169d9d0e6
  • The Proximity Principle (Book): https://www.ramseysolutions.com/store/books/the-proximity-principle-by-ken-coleman
  • Borrowing Brilliance (Book): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/304339/borrowing-brilliance-by-david-kord-murray/
  • How Will You Measure Your Life? (Book): https://claytonchristensen.com/books/how-will-you-measure-your-life/
  • Measure What Matters (Book): https://www.whatmatters.com/the-book/
  • Linchpin (Book): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00354Y9ZU/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i5
  • Way of the Peaceful Warrior (Book): https://www.peacefulwarrior.com/way-of-the-peaceful-warrior/

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73 // A Product Manager Mindset with Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts

45m · Published 16 Nov 11:00

Today’s guests are Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts. Together they host Path into Product, a podcast for college students or professionals considering a career as a product manager but don't know where to start. Both Aaron and Ash are currently working as Product Managers at Weave Communications and have previous experience working with and in learning design environments.

Today we discuss:

  • Different ways of defining product management
  • Frameworks and mindsets instructional designers can utilize to build better learning solutions
  • Curiosity, ruthless prioritization, and being a partner rather than an order taker
  • Measurement in product and navigating the constraints to make an impact

Resources

  • Path into Product (Podcast) - hosted by Aaron and Ash - https://anchor.fm/pathintoproduct
  • Borrowing Brilliance (Book) - https://www.amazon.com/Borrowing-Brilliance-Business-Innovation-Building/dp/1592405800

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Book Review - Make It Stick: The Science of Successful Learning with Dr. Bryan Tanner

1h 6m · Published 02 Nov 10:00

Today I’m joined with Bryan Tanner, a recent PhD graduate from BYU’s Instructional Psychology and Technology department. He has a professional background in K-12, higher ed, and corporate instruction. Bryan is an avid reader of biographies and business nonfiction and our discussion today is all about this book.

From the book description: "To most of us, learning something "the hard way" implies wasted time and effort. Good teaching, we believe, should be creatively tailored to the different learning styles of students and should use strategies that make learning easier. Make It Stick turns fashionable ideas like these on their head. Drawing on recent discoveries in cognitive psychology and other disciplines, the authors offer concrete techniques for becoming more productive learners."

In summarizing and reflecting on the book we cover topics such as:

  • Learning myths and tactics to overcome them
  • 8 principles from the book that will change how you approach learning
  • And a bunch of examples from the book and our own lives of these principles in practice

Resources

  • Make it Stick book resources: https://www.retrievalpractice.org/make-it-stick
  • Bryan’s blog post book summary: https://bryantanner.wordpress.com/2018/04/02/8-techniques-to-encourage-long-term-memory-retention/
  • Feynman learning technique: https://fs.blog/2021/02/feynman-learning-technique/
  • BYU Idaho learning model - https://www.byui.edu/learning-model

Credits

Introduction music, “For Mimi” by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license.

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72 // Using Constraints to Build a Micro Learning Product with Kate Udalova

43m · Published 19 Oct 10:00

Kate is a marketer turned L&D expert, microlearning addict, and founder and product leader at 7taps, a micro-learning technology tool we dig into here in the episode.

Today we discuss:

  • The features and overview of 7Taps and where it’s name comes from
  • The principles Kate follows to develop the product
  • How Kate leads her team with values and constraints in prioritizing what to build
  • What microlearning is best used for, and what it isn’t

Resources

  • 7Taps company website - https://www.7taps.com/
  • MicroLearning: Short and Sweet (book) https://www.amazon.com/Microlearning-Short-Karl-M-Kapp/dp/1949036731
  • Designing Microlearning (book) https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Microlearning-Works-Talent-Development/dp/1950496120/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=designing+microlearning&qid=1634094343&s=books&sr=1-3
  • Check out the 2-week design challenge hosted by L&D Lounge and sponsored by 7Taps: https://thelearninganddevelopmentlounge.mn.co/users/onboarding/plans/165757

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71 // Narrative Distance and Homiletics for Instructional Design with Dr. Stephan Taeger

52m · Published 05 Oct 10:00

Dr. Stephan Taeger is a religious educator and an adjunct professor at Brigham Young University’s Department of Ancient Scripture. He has authored or co-authored chapters and articles in various instructional design, educational, and/or theological venues. Dr. Taeger’s research interests include homiletics and narrative instructional design.

Today we discuss:

  • The principles of Narrative Distance and its applications to instructional design
  • Insights from Homiletics –the practice and craft of preaching– for designing learning
  • Creating cognitive and emotional space for people to learn through indirect stories
  • How to use story to create meaningful content that promotes transformational change

Resources

  • Dr. Taeger’s Article we discuss: Applying the Design of Narrative Distance to Instruction https://edtechbooks.org/jaid_10_2/applying_the_design_
  • Adam Grant’s book, “Think Again” - https://www.adamgrant.net/book/think-again/
  • First few minutes of the Disney Pixar movie “Up” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2bk_9T482g
  • Nike golf clubs - the power of the Halo Effect - https://www.fastcompany.com/3055747/proof-you-really-will-golf-better-with-a-nike-branded-club
  • Dr. Taeger’s website: https://www.stephantaeger.com/

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70 // Design Thinking and Getting Learner Perspective with Laura Fletcher

50m · Published 21 Sep 10:00

Laura Fletcher is a Senior Program Manager for Leadership Development at Salesforce where she designs and manages programs that improve performance and engagement. Prior to joining Salesforce, she was the Manager of Instructional Design at Bottom-Line Performance, where she led a team that designed and developed award-winning learning solutions. Laura co-authored the book, "Design Thinking for Training and Development," published by ATD Press in 2020 which we’ll get into in this episode.

Today we discuss:

  • Designing for learner value rather than engagement
  • Adapting the sweet spot for innovation for learning design
  • Handling training requests
  • Examples and stories that illustrate the principles of the book

Resources

  • The book: https://www.amazon.com/Design-Thinking-Training-Development-Sharon/dp/195049618X
  • Connect with Laura on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurafletcher-indy/
  • Stanford D School website: https://dschool.stanford.edu/resources
  • IdeaU.com resources - https://www.ideou.com/

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69 // What is Old is New Again with Guy W. Wallace

52m · Published 07 Sep 10:00

Today’s guest is Guy W. Wallace. Guy is a Performance Analyst and Instructional Architect – and has been designing and developing performance-based instruction and training content since 1979. Guy has been consulting since 1982 and has served 80+ consulting clients, primarily in the Fortune 500.

Guy's work has won a host of awards and he has authored over 90 articles, 16 books, and 4500+ blog posts. He has presented professionally over 125 times. You can check out the tremendous resources on his website which I’ve linked in the show notes along with some specific items we discuss in this episode.

Today we discuss:

  • How most current learning design trends are old ideas wrapped up in new language
  • Why awareness (but not anxiety) of history matters to design practitioners
  • Some of Guy’s experiences that have informed his design process over the years
  • And additional key insights from two of Guy’s articles

Resources

  • What is old is new again (blog post): https://eppic.biz/2018/07/09/td-the-woina-syndrome/
  • 1984 Training Magazine article: https://eppicinc.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/cad-training-mag-1984.pdf
  • Guy’s collection of resources for human performance improvement https://hpttreasures.wordpress.com/
  • Guy’s website: www.eppic.biz
  • Guru series on Guy’s favorite thought-leaders (including people mentioned at the end of the episode): https://eppic.biz/resources/misc-resources/my-favorite-friday-guru-series/

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68 // Bad Bosses and Developing Leaders with Yolanda Fraction

40m · Published 24 Aug 10:00

Yolanda is the founder and owner of Lumiere Learning Experiences and the host of The L&D Lounge, a podcast show, and virtual gathering space. Yolanda seeks to use learning and development as a strategic tool to create behavioral change and improve on-the-job performance. She is especially passionate about crafting best-in-class leadership development programs to support high potentials, emerging leaders, and people managers. Over the past 15 years, she has worked with a large variety of organizations to foster intellectual curiosity and promote a culture of continuous learning.


Today we discuss:

  • An article Yolanda wrote about leadership development and bad bosses
  • Yolanda’s experience developing her own leadership skills and leadership in others
  • What being a leader means, and how you can start thinking like one
  • And suggestions on creating people development programs that go beyond a one-time event

Resources

  • Yolanda’s SRHM article: Bad Bosses https://blog.shrm.org/blog/bad-bosses-developing-the-manager-to-become-the-leader
  • The L&D Lounge Podcast https://yolandafraction.com/podcast/
  • Yolanda’s website: https://yolandafraction.com/
  • Volunteer opportunities: https://www.idealist.org/en/

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Learning Experience Leader has 85 episodes in total of non- explicit content. Total playtime is 65:43:13. The language of the podcast is English. This podcast has been added on August 8th 2022. It might contain more episodes than the ones shown here. It was last updated on April 21st, 2023 01:06.

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