Transformative Leadership Conversations with Winnie da Silva

Season 2; Episode 9: Get the Ball Down the Field with Gina L. Osborn

Gina L. Osborn is an Army Veteran, a retired Cyber FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge and is now a Keynote Speaker, Leadership Consultant and the host of the podcast Lead Like a Lady featuring remarkable women who have risen to the top in male dominated industries. 

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

Leading as a Woman

· Sometimes men felt uncomfortable around me as the only woman, but you just ignore it and press on and do your job.

· There are a lot of reasons why people can treat you in a particular way, but if you think every time, it's because of me, I'm bad, I'm not good enough then you're never going to be successful, because you're always going to have a reason not to be.

· The amount of energy that goes into taking things personally can be exhausting. Instead, focus on getting the ball down the field, you don't have time for all the other nonsense.

· If someone says something that offends you, ask them, what did you mean by that? It's as simple as that. Either they’re going to explain it or they will say I'm sorry I didn't mean it that way. Then you can go about your business and get the ball down the field instead wasting your energy.

· Remember that everybody doesn't have to like you and you don't like everybody. It's called self-preservation. 

· Like my mom used to tell me, it's none of your business what other people think about you. That takes a lot of pressure off, especially for women. 

Leading Authentically

· Modified Albert Einstein: “She who attempts the absurd can achieve the impossible”; if you're not attempting the absurd, you are missing out because the impossible is pretty fantastic.

· Try things and don’t let obstacles stand in your way. If it's never been done before, then you can be the first one to do it.

· What percentage of your day is getting the ball down the field? What percentage of my day is criticizing yourself or wishing you had more confidence, or tolerating things that you shouldn't? 

· Remember as a leader people are watching you; how you handle things, how you address people, how you nip things in the bud, how much effort and time you're putting into things.

· You’ll shine as an authentic leader when you are honing into your natural talent and skills sets.

· You learn by making mistakes, that's how they become a better leader.

· Don't take things so seriously; have more fun. You don't have to be perfect. 

· Imperfections are what make you extraordinary. Take risks so you can grow from your mistakes.

Leading a Team

· My leadership challenge as an executive for the FBI was keeping my agents alive and making sure they go home to their families every night. 

· You must know when to take risks and when you shouldn't.

· Develop a muscle memory to make critical decisions quickly. Don’t get stuck being afraid to fail or it's going to be the wrong decision. 

· Micromanaging comes from leaders being afraid to make mistakes or fear of failure. But there's a lot of smart people out there that can come up with really good ideas if we let them do it.

· If you have a good team surrounding you, you are going to be successful no matter what.

· Develop the leaders that come behind you. 

· Don’t be intimidated by people who are smarter than you. You don't have to be smarter than your team when you're the leader. You don't have to be the smartest person in the room.

· It’s important to make sure your people have ownership and investment in the mission of your company.

Resources

· Open Architecture: Guy Geier at TEDxTimesSquare

· Eero Saarinen, a Finnish-American architect and industrial designer

To learn more about my work in executive coaching, leadership development and team effectiveness check out my website, connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected].  

Reach out and tell me what was helpful about today’s episode or any suggestions you have for my show.

Please leave a review and tell someone else about this show; look below for some instructions on how to leave a review on Apple Podcasts.

I look forward to sharing another transformative conversation with you next week!

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Season 2; Episode 9: Get the Ball Down the Field with Gina L. Osborn

Gina L. Osborn is an Army Veteran, a retired Cyber FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge and is now a Keynote Speaker, Leadership Consultant and the host of the podcast Lead Like a Lady featuring remarkable women who have risen to the top in male dominated industries. 

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

Leading as a Woman

· Sometimes men felt uncomfortable around me as the only woman, but you just ignore it and press on and do your job.

· There are a lot of reasons why people can treat you in a particular way, but if you think every time, it's because of me, I'm bad, I'm not good enough then you're never going to be successful, because you're always going to have a reason not to be.

· The amount of energy that goes into taking things personally can be exhausting. Instead, focus on getting the ball down the field, you don't have time for all the other nonsense.

· If someone says something that offends you, ask them, what did you mean by that? It's as simple as that. Either they’re going to explain it or they will say I'm sorry I didn't mean it that way. Then you can go about your business and get the ball down the field instead wasting your energy.

· Remember that everybody doesn't have to like you and you don't like everybody. It's called self-preservation. 

· Like my mom used to tell me, it's none of your business what other people think about you. That takes a lot of pressure off, especially for women. 

Leading Authentically

· Modified Albert Einstein: “She who attempts the absurd can achieve the impossible”; if you're not attempting the absurd, you are missing out because the impossible is pretty fantastic.

· Try things and don’t let obstacles stand in your way. If it's never been done before, then you can be the first one to do it.

· What percentage of your day is getting the ball down the field? What percentage of my day is criticizing yourself or wishing you had more confidence, or tolerating things that you shouldn't? 

· Remember as a leader people are watching you; how you handle things, how you address people, how you nip things in the bud, how much effort and time you're putting into things.

· You’ll shine as an authentic leader when you are honing into your natural talent and skills sets.

· You learn by making mistakes, that's how they become a better leader.

· Don't take things so seriously; have more fun. You don't have to be perfect. 

· Imperfections are what make you extraordinary. Take risks so you can grow from your mistakes.

Leading a Team

· My leadership challenge as an executive for the FBI was keeping my agents alive and making sure they go home to their families every night. 

· You must know when to take risks and when you shouldn't.

· Develop a muscle memory to make critical decisions quickly. Don’t get stuck being afraid to fail or it's going to be the wrong decision. 

· Micromanaging comes from leaders being afraid to make mistakes or fear of failure. But there's a lot of smart people out there that can come up with really good ideas if we let them do it.

· If you have a good team surrounding you, you are going to be successful no matter what.

· Develop the leaders that come behind you. 

· Don’t be intimidated by people who are smarter than you. You don't have to be smarter than your team when you're the leader. You don't have to be the smartest person in the room.

· It’s important to make sure your people have ownership and investment in the mission of your company.

Resources

· Open Architecture: Guy Geier at TEDxTimesSquare

· Eero Saarinen, a Finnish-American architect and industrial designer

To learn more about my work in executive coaching, leadership development and team effectiveness check out my website, connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected].  

Reach out and tell me what was helpful about today’s episode or any suggestions you have for my show.

Please leave a review and tell someone else about this show; look below for some instructions on how to leave a review on Apple Podcasts.

I look forward to sharing another transformative conversation with you next week!

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How to leave a rating or review in Apple Podcasts (on an iOS device)

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Season 2; Episode 8: Spices, Entrepreneurship and Social Impact with Ethan Frisch & Ori Zohar 

Ethan Frisch and Ori Zohar are co-founders and co-owners of Burlap & Barrel. Burlap & Barrel sources unique, beautiful spices for professional chefs and home cooks. As a Public Benefit Corporation, they partner directly with smallholder farmers to source spices that have never been available in the US before and help improve the livelihoods of our partner farmers.  As a Public Benefit Corporation Burlap & Barrel is building new international food supply chains that are equitable, transparent, and traceable.

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

Building a Sustainable Business

· We went from: what if we have to close the business, to we're about to run out of spices. 

· We want to build a big business, a business that has impact, that has influence.

· Entrepreneurship is always a process of iterating and improving. Nothing is static.

· Now that we’ve grown, most of the things that happen in the business on a day-to-day basis are not my area of expertise.

· You can be an entrepreneur even if your area of expertise is in business operations; continue to find the right subject matter expert that you can partner with partner.

· We are lucky we get to live a life that we design. We get to decide what we do every morning. We get to make decisions for ourselves that most people in the world never get to make, and really don't have much hope of getting to make. The fact that we get to do this is already such a privilege, such a treat that, if the business had to close tomorrow, we are fine. We are healthy. We are in positions to make decisions about our lives, and the business doesn't define that. The business is an outcome of that, but not definitive

Avoiding the Silicon Valley Model

· Create a sustainable, long-term business that isn't optimizing for a crazy exit in five years; build a healthy, happy business.

· The crazy, venture-backed, gigantic companies and founder as hero creating a new world is too stressful. Use other inspiring, quirky, funny companies for inspiration that have grown organically, have a deep and interesting culture of their own.

· We disagreed with the advice we got from a startup accelerator program; and it turns out that what we did instead saved us from the pandemic.

· Not relying on venture money forced us to be lean, thoughtful and to create more clever solutions because we couldn’t just hire a senior person to come in to fix things.

Building a Healthy Partnership

· Starting this business was a new phase of a longstanding friendship. Having had one experience together of entrepreneurship meant that we understood how our skillsets and interests were going to complement each other.

· Shared values can help partners navigate challenging decisions.

· We’re constantly checking in to see how we need to adjust our roles as the business grows.

· When we disagree, it means we're working on something important. We have arrived at different conclusions with essentially the same information, and why? Tension is not, necessarily a negative thing, and in fact, it's been an overall a source of positive energy and it pushes us in the right directions.

Our Toolkit:

· Put in the time and energy and explicit focus to create a conflict resolution process including a toolkit and common language.

· We ask ourselves how strongly we feel about something – on a scale of 1-10. The person who feels more strongly about something gets to make the decision.

· We have a weekly meeting with no agenda. During that meeting we bring pebbles, not boulders. We want to talk about problems as early as possible. If it feels off or weird, we don't just sit and stew on it. These meetings create a safe space for us to bring whatever we're feeling. We can check in and disagree and talk through the things that are sitting the heaviest on our minds.

· We practice disagreements about the small things, so that when a big thing comes along, we’re ready. 

Companies & Resources:

· Examples of social impact business:

o Rancho Gordo: sells incredible dried heirloom beans

o King Arthur Flour

· “Let My People Go Surfing” by the founder of Patagonia, Yvon Chouinard

· Pete Flint at NFX

Burlap & Barrel Articles

· New York Times

· Food & Wine

· Bloomberg

· Fast Company

· Wall Street Journal

To learn more about my work in executive coaching, leadership development and team effectiveness check out my website, connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected].  

Reach out and tell me what was helpful about today’s episode or any suggestions you have for my show.

Please leave a review and tell someone else about this show; look below for some instructions on how to leave a review on Apple Podcasts.

I look forward to sharing another transformative conversation with you next week!

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How to leave a rating or review in Apple Podcasts (on an iOS device)

1. Open the Podcasts app.

2. Choose “Search” from the bottom row of icons and enter the name of the show (i.e., “Transformative Leadership Conversations”) into the search field

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Season 2; Episode 8: Spices, Entrepreneurship and Social Impact with Ethan Frisch & Ori Zohar 

Ethan Frisch and Ori Zohar are co-founders and co-owners of Burlap & Barrel. Burlap & Barrel sources unique, beautiful spices for professional chefs and home cooks. As a Public Benefit Corporation, they partner directly with smallholder farmers to source spices that have never been available in the US before and help improve the livelihoods of our partner farmers.  As a Public Benefit Corporation Burlap & Barrel is building new international food supply chains that are equitable, transparent, and traceable.

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

Building a Sustainable Business

· We went from: what if we have to close the business, to we're about to run out of spices. 

· We want to build a big business, a business that has impact, that has influence.

· Entrepreneurship is always a process of iterating and improving. Nothing is static.

· Now that we’ve grown, most of the things that happen in the business on a day-to-day basis are not my area of expertise.

· You can be an entrepreneur even if your area of expertise is in business operations; continue to find the right subject matter expert that you can partner with partner.

· We are lucky we get to live a life that we design. We get to decide what we do every morning. We get to make decisions for ourselves that most people in the world never get to make, and really don't have much hope of getting to make. The fact that we get to do this is already such a privilege, such a treat that, if the business had to close tomorrow, we are fine. We are healthy. We are in positions to make decisions about our lives, and the business doesn't define that. The business is an outcome of that, but not definitive

Avoiding the Silicon Valley Model

· Create a sustainable, long-term business that isn't optimizing for a crazy exit in five years; build a healthy, happy business.

· The crazy, venture-backed, gigantic companies and founder as hero creating a new world is too stressful. Use other inspiring, quirky, funny companies for inspiration that have grown organically, have a deep and interesting culture of their own.

· We disagreed with the advice we got from a startup accelerator program; and it turns out that what we did instead saved us from the pandemic.

· Not relying on venture money forced us to be lean, thoughtful and to create more clever solutions because we couldn’t just hire a senior person to come in to fix things.

Building a Healthy Partnership

· Starting this business was a new phase of a longstanding friendship. Having had one experience together of entrepreneurship meant that we understood how our skillsets and interests were going to complement each other.

· Shared values can help partners navigate challenging decisions.

· We’re constantly checking in to see how we need to adjust our roles as the business grows.

· When we disagree, it means we're working on something important. We have arrived at different conclusions with essentially the same information, and why? Tension is not, necessarily a negative thing, and in fact, it's been an overall a source of positive energy and it pushes us in the right directions.

Our Toolkit:

· Put in the time and energy and explicit focus to create a conflict resolution process including a toolkit and common language.

· We ask ourselves how strongly we feel about something – on a scale of 1-10. The person who feels more strongly about something gets to make the decision.

· We have a weekly meeting with no agenda. During that meeting we bring pebbles, not boulders. We want to talk about problems as early as possible. If it feels off or weird, we don't just sit and stew on it. These meetings create a safe space for us to bring whatever we're feeling. We can check in and disagree and talk through the things that are sitting the heaviest on our minds.

· We practice disagreements about the small things, so that when a big thing comes along, we’re ready. 

Companies & Resources:

· Examples of social impact business:

o Rancho Gordo: sells incredible dried heirloom beans

o King Arthur Flour

· “Let My People Go Surfing” by the founder of Patagonia, Yvon Chouinard

· Pete Flint at NFX

Burlap & Barrel Articles

· New York Times

· Food & Wine

· Bloomberg

· Fast Company

· Wall Street Journal

To learn more about my work in executive coaching, leadership development and team effectiveness check out my website, connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected].  

Reach out and tell me what was helpful about today’s episode or any suggestions you have for my show.

Please leave a review and tell someone else about this show; look below for some instructions on how to leave a review on Apple Podcasts.

I look forward to sharing another transformative conversation with you next week!

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How to leave a rating or review in Apple Podcasts (on an iOS device)

1. Open the Podcasts app.

2. Choose “Search” from the bottom row of icons and enter the name of the show (i.e., “Transformative Leadership Conversations”) into the search field

3. Select the show under Shows (not under Episodes)

4. Scroll down past the first few episodes until you see Ratings & Reviews

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Season 2; Episode 7: The Unexpected Impact of Design with Guy Geier

Guy Geier is the Managing Partner of FXCollaborative, and is responsible for the strategic direction of the firm and its operations. As an architect and senior leader for over 40 years, he is particularly passionate about how design impacts people and how they work; businesses and how they organize themselves to do great work; and at the same time how to minimize carbon imprint on the environment. His primary focus is having a strategic impact within a larger mission.

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

·       Every decision needs to be made in its own context. 

· Think of everything you do as having an impact. Everything you do think about how you're going to leave the world in a better place than you found it.

· Understand the interrelationship of everything you do and how it impacts each other.

· It doesn't matter what it looks like, what matters is that you're continually exploring.

· Create a culture of feedback by cultivating a real and vibrant dialogue with your team, with your clients.

· Using drawing as a problem-solving technique.

· Be flexible and open to new ideas, don’t restrict your thinking.

· You don’t have to be like everybody else; you can be different and still find your way in the world and do great work.   

Resources

· Open Architecture: Guy Geier at TEDxTimesSquare

· Eero Saarinen, a Finnish-American architect and industrial designer

To learn more about my work in executive coaching, leadership development and team effectiveness check out my website, connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected].  

Reach out and tell me what was helpful about today’s episode or any suggestions you have for my show.

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Season 2; Episode 7: The Unexpected Impact of Design with Guy Geier

Guy Geier is the Managing Partner of FXCollaborative, and is responsible for the strategic direction of the firm and its operations. As an architect and senior leader for over 40 years, he is particularly passionate about how design impacts people and how they work; businesses and how they organize themselves to do great work; and at the same time how to minimize carbon imprint on the environment. His primary focus is having a strategic impact within a larger mission.

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

·       Every decision needs to be made in its own context. 

· Think of everything you do as having an impact. Everything you do think about how you're going to leave the world in a better place than you found it.

· Understand the interrelationship of everything you do and how it impacts each other.

· It doesn't matter what it looks like, what matters is that you're continually exploring.

· Create a culture of feedback by cultivating a real and vibrant dialogue with your team, with your clients.

· Using drawing as a problem-solving technique.

· Be flexible and open to new ideas, don’t restrict your thinking.

· You don’t have to be like everybody else; you can be different and still find your way in the world and do great work.   

Resources

· Open Architecture: Guy Geier at TEDxTimesSquare

· Eero Saarinen, a Finnish-American architect and industrial designer

To learn more about my work in executive coaching, leadership development and team effectiveness check out my website, connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected].  

Reach out and tell me what was helpful about today’s episode or any suggestions you have for my show.

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Season 2; Episode 6: Cash in Your Lottery Ticket with Jeff Harry

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Jeff Harry is the Founder of Rediscover Your Play and his mission is to build psychologically safe workplaces through positive psychology and play. He was selected by Engagedly as one of the Top 100 HR Influencers of 2020 and one of the Top HR Influencers to Watch by BambooHR for his organizational development work around addressing toxicity in the workplace. His play work has been featured in the NY Times, The SF Chronicle, and CNN. His mission is to fully embrace our own playful nerdy genius — whatever that is — and by sim

Season 2; Episode 6: Cash in Your Lottery Ticket with Jeff Harry

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Jeff Harry is the Founder of Rediscover Your Play and his mission is to build psychologically safe workplaces through positive psychology and play. He was selected by Engagedly as one of the Top 100 HR Influencers of 2020 and one of the Top HR Influencers to Watch by BambooHR for his organizational development work around addressing toxicity in the workplace. His play work has been featured in the NY Times, The SF Chronicle, and CNN. His mission is to fully embrace our own playful nerdy genius — whatever that is — and by simply unleashing our inner child, we can find our purpose and, in turn, help to create a better world.

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

· We’re all sitting on a winning lottery ticket. To change the world all you need to

Colin Hunter is the CEO of Potential Squared International which delivers high impact leadership assessment and development solutions. Their purpose is to create a measurable global playground that disrupts the way people are led and to uncover heroes, innovators, and future leaders. With over 70 consultants based in the UK, Europe, USA, India, Asia and South Africa, Potential Squared International is truly a global team. 

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

Experimentation 

· We need to create a fun playground to develop leaders.

· Creating a place to experiment. A playground can help you with your fear of failure. You want to help people learn how to make mistakes, learn fast and then grow.

· When things are going well, go and tell your client when things are going badly run and tell your client.

· Do experiments, have a hypothesis, and then evaluate.

Authenticity 

· I felt like I was being listened to and I became myself for the first time.

· Authenticity is changeable; it's not what you always are, it’s who you are becoming too.

· Many leaders adopt other people's metrics. They don't take time to think about their own leading indicators and their own measures of success.

Creating Disciplines in Business & Leadership

· Don’t work in circles. Keep the operating rhythm of the business going. Put in place rigor, discipline, systems and habits.

· We don't rise to the level of objectives; we fall to the level of our systems.

· With a control freak if you remove the control all you’ve got is the freak.

· Making the case to create an advisory board (especially for Founder/CEO’s) and creating a client advisory board to co-create and collaborate on new products and ideas.

· A core part of leadership is having the systems and disciplines in place to be mentally and physically fit and healthy.

The Lord of the Rings can guide your leadership!

Resources

· Be More Wrong by Colin Hunter

· Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder by Nassim Nicholas Taleb

· Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking by Susan Cain 

· Atomic Habits by James Clear

· The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier

· The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek

· TedTalk: Embracing Otherness, Embracing Myself by Thandiwe Newton

To learn more about my work in executive coaching, leadership development and team effectiveness check out my website, connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected].

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Colin Hunter is the CEO of Potential Squared International which delivers high impact leadership assessment and development solutions. Their purpose is to create a measurable global playground that disrupts the way people are led and to uncover heroes, innovators, and future leaders. With over 70 consultants based in the UK, Europe, USA, India, Asia and South Africa, Potential Squared International is truly a global team. 

Key Takeaways from this Episode:

Experimentation 

· We need to create a fun playground to develop leaders.

· Creating a place to experiment. A playground can help you with your fear of failure. You want to help people learn how to make mistakes, learn fast and then grow.

· When things are going well, go and tell your client when things are going badly run and tell your client.

· Do experiments, have a hypothesis, and then evaluate.

Authenticity 

· I felt like I was being listened to and I became myself for the first time.

· Authenticity is changeable; it's not what you always are, it’s who you are becoming too.

· Many leaders adopt other people's metrics. They don't take time to think about their own leading indicators and their own measures of success.

Creating Disciplines in Business & Leadership

· Don’t work in circles. Keep the operating rhythm of the business going. Put in place rigor, discipline, systems and habits.

· We don't rise to the level of objectives; we fall to the level of our systems.

· With a control freak if you remove the control all you’ve got is the freak.

· Making the case to create an advisory board (especially for Founder/CEO’s) and creating a client advisory board to co-create and collaborate on new products and ideas.

· A core part of leadership is having the systems and disciplines in place to be mentally and physically fit and healthy.

The Lord of the Rings can guide your leadership!

Resources

· Be More Wrong by Colin Hunter

· Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder by Nassim Nicholas Taleb

· Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking by Susan Cain 

· Atomic Habits by James Clear

· The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier

· The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek

· TedTalk: Embracing Otherness, Embracing Myself by Thandiwe Newton

To learn more about my work in executive coaching, leadership development and team effectiveness check out my website, connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected].

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