Interdisciplinary

We talk about USOLMT's national wage study, leadership, forging new paths and standing your ground.
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You can find them here at: https://usolmt.com/
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Cal mentions this AMAZING BOOK THAT YOU SHOULD READ: “The Person You Mean Be” by Dolly Chugh https://www.dollychugh.com/book/the-person-you-mean-to-be ***********
US Department of Education Gainful Employment Rule: https://tinyurl.com/24vdtmsy ***********
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About Our Guests:
Stephanie Rodriguez is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of USOLMT and Freelance Massage Therapy Business and Spa Consultant, with a specialty in hiring, compensation and benefits, and employee retention. She helps massage employers improve their career opportunities, helps potential and current massage employees to improve their career options, while also advocating for legislation that helps our industry grow and thrive.
Priscilla Fleming is the education director for USOLMT.

Corey and Rebecca sit down with Cynthia Price to get all interoceptive and stuff.
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Learn more about MABT here
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About Our Guest:
Cynthia is a Research Professor at the University of Washington, her clinical and research expertise is in the development of body awareness to improve health and well-being. Research studies have focused on the study of MABT for multiple health conditions including Substance Dependency, Pain, PTSD, and HIV (see publications page). Interested in the processes involved in learning mindful body awareness, Cynthia studies qualitative aspects and underlying mechanisms of the MABT approach. She is a co-author of two scales to measure interoceptive awareness: the Scale of Body Connection (SBC) and the Multidimensional Assessment of Interoceptive Awareness (MAIA). Committed to increasing health care access to underserved populations, Cynthia works with local and international programs to provide and improve complementary and integrative health care through her research, teaching, and service.

"Life is a sexually transmitted condition with a 100% mortality rate." Hear Cindy Spence drop wisdom like this on Corey and Cal in this week's episode.
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And check out Cindy's book here: https://us.singingdragon.com/products/palliative-touch-massage-for-people-at-the-end-of-life
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DANCE PARTY! Come party with us at Busboys and Poets in Arlington, VA on September 21: https://give.healwell.org/event/healwell-dance-party-2023/e487769
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Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring this season of Interdisciplinary! www.abmp.com
Thank you to AIHM! Learn more about the AIHM Fellowship by emailing [email protected]
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About Our Guest
Cindy Spence has been a massage therapist since 1999, when her father-in-law’s dying wish for gentle touch inspired her to attend massage school. She has worked extensively with hospice patients in both home and inpatient environments. Her mission is to bring the gift of massage to the bedside for as many people as possible.

This week we are re-running one of Cal's favorites from January, 2022. This conversation with Jenn Brandel covers crisis planning, metaphors, and how we support each other in hard times.
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Find Jenn's books (including a free downloadable PDF of My Crisis Plan) here: https://jennbrandel.com/publications.html
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About Our Guest:
Jenn Brandel is a licensed clinical social worker in Boston with over twenty years of experience working as a psychotherapist, trainer, supervisor and consultant. Her work centers around the use of mindfulness and humor to promote compassionate practices, healing and connection. She has been recognized as a leader in her field - making numerous media appearances and speaking at conferences and professional venues throughout New England. She is the author of My Crisis Plan: What I Need to Get Through the Darkness and When Rabbits Spill Their Tea: Metaphors to Guide Us Through Difficult Times.

It's a new season! This one is a shiny collection of hodge-podge stuff. We start off with Healwell's Education Department (aka, Corey and Rebecca) talking about education stuff. There will be opinions. ***********
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Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring this season of Interdisciplinary! www.abmp.com
Thank you to AIHM! Learn more about the AIHM Fellowship by emailing [email protected]

It's another special pick from Laura Bryant-Earner, Healwell's Service Director. The Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E. Dupont-Versteegden, Ph.D. to the podcast. Esther's presentation at IMTRC blew everyone away, and we are delighted to have her on the podcast to talk more about about her research into muscular atrophy, how researchers really spend their time, and what all this data means for massage therapists. In this episode, the Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E. Dupont-Versteegden, Ph.D. to the podcast. Esther's presentation at IMTRC blew everyone away, and we are delighted to have her on the podcast to talk more about about her research into muscular atrophy, how researchers really spend their time, and what all this data means for massage therapists.
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About Our Guest:
Dr. Dupont graduated from State University Limburg at Maastricht, the Netherlands, with a Bachelor in Science degree in Movement Sciences. In 1995 she received a Doctor of Philosophy degree in Physiology from the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, Texas. In 1999 she became Assistant Professor of Geriatrics at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences and in 2006 she accepted a position as Associate Professor in the College of Health Sciences Department of Physical Therapy at the University of Kentucky. In 2015 Dr. Dupont-Versteegden was promoted to full professor and in 2016 she accepted the position of Director of the Rehabilitation Sciences Doctoral Program.
For links to some of the papers mentioned in the episode, please visit: https://www.healwell.org/s7e8-the-research-rat-race

While we are working on Season 12, we're bringing you some of the Healwell Brain Trust's favorite episodes. Here's Service Director, Laura Bryant-Earner's pick: a conversation with Elder Angela Overton. (Originally aired February, 2021)
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Elder Overton will be the keynote speaker at our October symposium: Ending Inequities in End of Life Care. Find out more here: https://www.healwell.org/ending-inequities-in-end-of-life-care
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This is the first episode of THE RUB, a podcast about massage therapy. Join Corey, co-host of Interdisciplinary, in examining and bringing context to the world of massage beyond the table. Any topic is up for grabs: history, philosophy, development, and all the other shiny things that distract Corey daily.

This episode explores what it is like to be a hospital-based massage therapist, and what it takes to start hospital-based programs.

The Rub is a produced show, written and recorded by Corey, with input from the Healwell Braintrust.

Corey would love to hear from you about this episode, what topics you want to hear about in the future, what you had for lunch today, and anything else you'd like to share. Please email [email protected] with your questions and comments.

Music: DuDa by Ian Post (edited)

Corey, Cal, and Rebecca sit down and talk about what we learned in Season 11. It was a packed season, full of rich information, and this conversation is only part of an ongoing discussion that we're sure will flow into next season as well.
Let us know what you think! Send us an email: [email protected]
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It's our last guest of Season 11, and this is a conversation you don't want to miss. Allissa Haines talks with Corey and Cal about what it really takes to build a massage career, and how work can turn into flow. **********
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About Our Guest:
Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner, and columnist for ABMP’s Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.