Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

Sarah Edmondson was a young actress pursuing a career in film and television, when she hit a low point and was hoping to find a new purpose in life. She ran into renowned filmmaker, Mark Vicente, who spoke to her about NXIVM and eventually brought her into the organization. There she started following Keith Raniere and Nancy Salzman's mission. They encouraged Sarah to give her all. In part 1 of 2, we learn about how NXIVM's leadership undermined its followers and groomed them in such a conniving way, that no one knew what was happening to them. Sarah grew close to many members of the organization - which later turned out to be a cult, and even rose up in leadership. Listen to how Sarah's journey and newfound community helped her find a new meaning in life.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Information:

Instagram: Sarah Edmondson’s IG - @sarahedmondson

Facebook: Sarah Edmondson’s FB - Sarah Edmondson 

Twitter: Sarah Edmondson’s TW - @sarahjedmondson 

Book: Scarred

Podcast: A Little Bit Culty 

Guest Bio: 

Sarah is a working actor and artist. She is known for her role in NXIVM; which initially intrigued her with its promise to provide the tools and insight she needed to reach her potential. It all came into focus when she accepted an invitation to join DOS, a “secret sisterhood” within NXIVM. It was a decision that resulted in a front page bombshell in the New York Times featuring her story as a woman on a mission to shut NXIVM down.

Sarah published Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult that Bound My Life. Sarah’s journey as a whistleblower has also been featured in “The Vow”, the critically acclaimed HBO documentary series. 

I want to hear from you, too. Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]  

I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Barrett Pall was young and not sure what he wanted to do with his life; when a friend suggested modeling. Unsure about moving in that trajectory, Barrett hesitated, only to be encouraged by his friends. As a young adult who wanted to help with his family finances, Barrett was told that modeling could help his family out of financial trouble so he pursued it. On top of trying to make money; Barrett was struggling with coming out and learning about his own queerness as he was immersed in the vicious world of modeling. Listen and learn how Barrett was able to pick himself up from an extremely low point in his life and career; and how he's able to rise above the narcissistic world of modeling to where he is today.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Information:

Instagram: Barrett Pall’s IG - @barrettpall 

Facebook: Barrett Pall’s FB - @barrettpallfan

YouTube: Barrett Pall’s YT - @BarrettPall 

Guest Bio: 

Barrett Pall is a Life Coach, Activist, and Digital Creator, who reaches over 2.3 million people across his social platforms. Throughout his humanitarian work he has traveled to all 7 continents, which lead to him being profiled by the UN at the UNGA in 2019. In 2016 Pall hiked 800 miles on the PCT, and since then his mission is to fully lean into helping the world heal. Barrett welcomes you to join his Love Army where together our purpose is to empower, educate, and inspire as many humans as possible.

I want to hear from you, too. Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]  I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Rebecca Humphries had just celebrated her birthday when her world turned upside down. Pictures of her boyfriend, and his dance partner were leaked in the media, as they were competing in the popular show, Strictly Come Dancing. While Rebecca was utterly heartbroken, overwhelmed by news outlets and a heartless boyfriend, she decided to rise above it. Rebecca stood her ground, spoke her truth, and was able to overcome her abusive relationship and independently move on with her life. Listen to this episode and learn how Rebecca's tragedy turned out to be the best thing that happened to her life and career.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Information:

Instagram: Rebecca Humphries’ IG - @beckshumps

Twitter: Rebecca Humphries’ Twitter -@beckshumps

Book: Why Did You Stay? 

The book is on sale in the US and Canada on January 17th and is available now to pre-order from all good booksellers, including (links below):

• Barnes & Noble
• Bookshop.org
• Amazon

Guest Bio: 

Rebecca Humphries' first book 'Why Did You Stay? A memoir about self worth' became an instant Sunday Times bestseller in July 2022. As an actress, she has played Carol Thatcher in 'The Crown', and stars in 'Ten Percent' - the UK remake of the smash French series 'Call My Agent'. She recently wrapped a performance in the play, Blackout Songs at London’s Hampstead Theatre.

I want to hear from you, too. Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]  

I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Our Guest's ex came on so strong and in a way that showed her love and attention unlike any she had seen before. As things between the couple began to deteriorate, our Guest received a message from another person who was having an affair with our Guest's partner. Turns out their partner had a long history of narcissistic behavior and cheating in relationships. Listen to this episode and find out some big red flags when the person is addicted to social media, and what our Guest did to get out of such a toxic relationship.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

I want to hear from you, too. Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]  

I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Dr. Ingrid Clayton's stepfather lacked empathy and would occasionally manipulate Ingrid with gifts. Brutal realizations come to light as her stepfather reveals his true feelings for her. Ingrid's toxic upbringing led her to having relationships with toxic men. Listen to part 2 of Ingrid's story and hear how she started taking steps on turning her life around, getting a PhD, writing a book, defending herself and saying no to every request from her parents. 

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Information: 

Website: ingridclayton.com

Book: Believing Me

Instagram: Dr. Ingrid Clayton’s IG - @ingridclaytonphd

Facebook: Dr. Ingrid Clayton’s FB - Ingrid Clayton, PhD

Guest Bio:

Ingrid Clayton, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist and author. Her recent memoir is Believing Me: Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Complex Trauma. She is a contributor to Psychology Today where her article, “What is Self-Gaslighting?” is considered an Essential Read. Ingrid has been interviewed for countless publications and podcasts including Women’s Health Magazine and The Healing Trauma Podcast. 

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I want to hear from you, too. Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected] - I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Dr. Ingrid Clayton grew up in an alcoholic household, and when her mother's second husband, her step dad, came into the picture, consistent emotional abuse ensued. This resulted in childhood trauma which affected her life long term. Part 1 of 2 of Ingrid's story is filled with examples of trauma bonding, grooming and gas lighting she received from her stepfather. As Ingrid tried to navigate life as a teenager, she sought out for her mother's help who seemed so disconnected--another sign of a narcissistic family system. Ingrid's upbringing led her down a dark path with alcohol abuse and AA. Listen to this episode and find out what Ingrid realized about her stepfather and mother, and the actions she took to start turning her life around for the better.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Information: 

Website: ingridclayton.com

Book: Believing Me

Instagram: Dr. Ingrid Clayton’s IG - @ingridclaytonphd

Facebook: Dr. Ingrid Clayton’s FB - Ingrid Clayton, PhD

Guest Bio:

Ingrid Clayton, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist and author. Her recent memoir is Believing Me: Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Complex Trauma. She is a contributor to Psychology Today where her article, “What is Self-Gaslighting?” is considered an Essential Read. Ingrid has been interviewed for countless publications and podcasts including Women’s Health Magazine and The Healing Trauma Podcast. 

#NavigatingNarcissism - I want to hear from you, too. 

Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]  

I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Sola Oluborode's long time friend became her romantic partner after he initially passed the test of her healthy boundaries. But once they were official, he started treating her differently - and not in a good way. Sola realized that the quirks she saw in him while they were just friends, were actually toxic traits she later encountered. Listen to this episode and learn how Sola chose to do all the right things, being friends, setting boundaries, and yet still got into a hurtful and gaslit relationship.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Bio:

A native Detroiter of Nigerian descent, Sola Oluborode is an educator in neurodiversity, vocalist, artist, writer, and editor. She empowers children and adults through the development of literacy skills and supports Black-owned businesses around the world through design, composition, and content creation. Sola is passionate about celebrating Black people, culture, joy, and the Black aesthetic. As a woman with ADHD overcoming childhood and recent experiences of emotional abuse, Sola is committed to using her voice as an instrument of healing. Her favorite pastimes include succumbing to a lifelong sugar addiction, traveling, and gushing over beautiful images of Black people in yellow.

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I want to hear from you, too. 

Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]  

I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Kiersten Hathcock was struggling to make ends meet with her husband when she decided to go into the design industry to help pay the bills. Her expanding business led Kiersten into taking trips away from her family, which led to meeting another man who wanted to work with her. This friendship turned into an affair, and ultimately, a narcissistically abusive relationship. Listen to this episode to hear how her marriage and career deteriorated, only to be brought back together in some shocking turn of events.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Information: 

Instagram: Kiersten Hathcockl’s IG - @kierstenhathcock

Facebook: Kiesten Hathcock’s FB -Kiersten Parsons Hathcock - Author

Twitter: Kiersten Hathcock’s TW - @authorkhathcock

Kiersten's Book: Little Voices: kierstenhathcock.com/littlevoicesmemoir.html

Guest Bio:

To most who know her, Kiersten Hathcock is a former TV marketing exec and TEDx speaker turned Shark Tank-winning, self-taught carpenter & furniture designer who built an internationally-known kids’ furniture company out of her LA garage. Behind the scenes; however, Kiersten privately struggled to survive and heal from childhood sexual abuse and narcissistic abuse all while grappling with newfound mediumship abilities that led her to pen her debut memoir, LITTLE VOICES. She also co-founded a nonprofit with retired NYPD Detective Mark Pucci that helps crime victims and their families. Kiersten lives with her husband and kids in Phoenix, AZ.

#NavigatingNarcissism - I want to hear from you, too. Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]  I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Collier Landry was only twelve years old when he testified against his father in court for the murder of his mother. Collier's narcissist father's crimes led him to prison and left his own son abandoned. This episode goes into detail about how Collier grew up without parents, becoming a filmmaker and the documentary that brought light into why his father committed murder. Since then, Collier has shed light on his story in order to help other victims in similar situations have a voice. Listen to part 2 to learn about Collier and fellow survivor Terra Newell's story.

Collier is the creator and subject of the Discovery+ documentary A Murder in Mansfield.   He is the host of the Moving Past Murder podcast, and upcoming podcast Survivor Squad with co-host Terra Newell (Dirty John).

As a formally trained musician and photographer, Collier Landry segued into filmmaking to creatively express his own traumatic childhood story - witnessing the murder of his mother Noreen by his narcissist father, Dr. John F. Boyle - and to give a narrative voice to others in similar circumstances.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Information: 

Instagram: Collier Landry’s IG - @collierlandry

Facebook: Collier Landry’s FB - Collier Landry

Twitter: Collier Landry’s TW - @collierlandry

YouTube: Collier Landry’s YT - Collier Landry

Instagram: Terra Newell’s IG - @terranewell

Facebook: Terra Newell’s FB -Terra Newell

Twitter: Terra Newell’s TW - @terra_newell

#NavigatingNarcissism - I want to hear from you, too. 

Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]  I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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Terra Newell's name became nationally known after she killed her stepfather in self-defense; John Meehan known from Dirty John. Earlier this season, Terra's mother, Debra, came on the show and shared her experience during that tumultuous time. In this episode we hear directly from Terra who shares her point of view. While she experienced massive trauma, she learned how to heal and help others. Listen to part 1 to learn about Terra and fellow survivor Collier Landry’s story.

Host Information: 

Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani

Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani

Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani 

YouTube: Dr. Ramani’s YT - DoctorRamani

Guest Information: 

Terra Newell

Instagram: Terra Newell’s IG - @terranewell

Facebook: Terra Newell’s FB -Terra Newell

Twitter: Terra Newell’s TW - @terra_newell

Collier Landry

Instagram: Collier Landry’s IG - @collierlandry

Facebook: Collier Landry’s FB - Collier Landry

Twitter: Collier Landry’s TW - @collierlandry

YouTube: Collier Landry’s YT - Collier Landry

Guest Bios:

Terra Newell has been called “one of the biggest bad asses of true crime.” She killed “dirty” John Meehan, a con-man and serial predator, in self-defense at age 25. Since then, she’s shared her dramatic story on global platforms to raise awareness around domestic abuse. She is the heroine of episode six of the ​Dirty John ​podcast and has been interviewed for ​Dateline, Dirty John: The Dirty Truth, Dr. Oz, The Skinny Confidential, KTLA a​nd numerous additional outlets. She’s currently working alongside fellow survivor Collier Landry with a new podcast, The Survivor Squad. Terra also loves to help others by coaching and advocating for victims.

Collier is the creator and subject of the Discovery+ documentary A Murder in Mansfield.   He is the host of the Moving Past Murder podcast, and upcoming podcast Survivor Squad with co-host Terra Newell (Dirty John).

#NavigatingNarcissism. I want to hear from you, too. 

Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at [email protected]. I just might answer you questions on air. 

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.

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